Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Lool]

The US, the UK, France... These countries are geographically distant from Ukraine and Russia. Türkiye is a neighbor of these two warring countries.
Erdoğan probably has a different perspective on this.
This seems to be exactly what Erdoğan meant by holding an umbrella over Zelensky's head.

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Dont think too much about the umbrella gesture
Erdogan is quite the tall man, compared to other presidents/prime ministers, which means he or one of his guards traditionally holds the umbrella
The reason he tilts the umbrella is to cover the other one more from the rain as to not get soaked. He did the same thing with Malaysian PM when he was visiting Malaysia not long ago

To sum it up, it is just a courteous gesture indicating proper manners and nothing else

 

[Lool]

Exactly, this is what is gonna happen to Ukraine rn
The big vultures, the US and Russia, will split Ukraine and the EU will foot the bill
That is why Zelensky is going to Erdogan and other leaders to ask for support

I reiterate, Zelensky should have accepted Erdo's peace proposal 2 years ago

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891902737496805696

 

[PipeRain]

While I absolutely hate Trump and the US's vulture-like mentality, I have to agree with him on his recent statements

Trump hismelf stated: "why did Zelensky start this war". Another clear sign that Zelensky and his western a**hole friends were intentionally pissing Russia off

Zelensky did have 3 years to make a deal, with the Istanbul deal proposed by Erdogan, could have presumably saved Zelensky's ass as well as most of the territory Russia controlled after the war but the filthy zionists, Boris Jhonson and Victoria Nulland had another say and obviously the master-strategist and jewish clown, Zelensky!

Now with Russia advancing even more than ever and Ukraine having personnel shortages, expect hard concessions from the Ukrainian side

Over the course of that 3 years the US/EU were telling Zelensky not to talk to Russia and were keeping Ukraine in the fight with NATO carrot. Just beat Russia and youre in!

US is absolutely shafting Ukraine here, but at same time ending this war is better than escalating with the Russians further. The US has gone as far as it's willing to go here. People have been predicting this would be the outcome, Ukraine being used and tossed by the US, since day 1.

 

[Lool]

We always got to be careful when dealing with the US/UK axis. They always play good cop/bad cop. So as Trumps talks like he's going to throw Ukraine under the bus, its predictable that the UK plays good cop and talks about sending 10K troops.

In the context of money, the US, UK, Russia historically up until modern times have been the largest plunderers on earth. Ukraine has incredible natural resources. Trump appearing to sell his arse to Russia, while their governments made ultimatums for 500billion worth of Ukraine's natural resources is potentially a bargaining tactic. Trying to pressure the Ukrainians to give more of their natural wealth away to the Americans. If they scare the Ukrainians that they could lift support, it will force them to accept their outlandish demands.

We must also understand that the americans initially enticed the Russians to invade Ukraine. They were saying things like were not going to go to war for Ukraine, threatening Turks not to sell Ukraine weapons etc. But the moment Russia took the bait, money and weapons poured in. But the only weapons that poured in were the ones that can continue the meat grinder going on. Also worth keeping in mind as was seen in Syria and Libya, In Syria the Americans and Russians were co-ordinating together against the Turks. In Libya the French and the Russians were doing the same against the Turks. So Russians probably thought the relationship is quite good with the major western powers, so much so that they could ally with them against a NATO ally.

There is also another reality about the anglo-saxon world, they have for much of the last 200 years used the Russians as a balancing act. Used them against Germany, Used them against the Turkic/Muslim Axis, Used against the Chinese and the Japanese. They will prop them up as they have done in both world wars as a counter weight against the non-white power axis, the Turks, Chinese, Japanese etc.

Reading your post made me remember Kissinger's words

 

[Barry]

I truly do not understand, so called Islamists shilling for The Russians . I don't understand why the hate for Ukraine has become totally personal for them?
I don't understand how so called Muslims support that both Trump and Putin falling over eachother to prop India???
I don't understand how people don't see that after Ukraine, Muslims of Balkan, Caucasus, Central Asia and ultimately Turkey are in the menu???
I truly don't understand how these people ignore history and mentality and etc about Russians ?
I don't understand so called secularists here, how in the light of these events they cry about F35?
Truly the most basic logic.
It seems to me whatever people may or may not believe, they know nothing about it.
Wella Hawle Wella Quwete

All they know is how to be traitors whilst handwaving it away as God's Will. There's a bit of Sheikh Said in all of these people.

 

[blackjack]

We always got to be careful when dealing with the US/UK axis. They always play good cop/bad cop. So as Trumps talks like he's going to throw Ukraine under the bus, its predictable that the UK plays good cop and talks about sending 10K troops.

In the context of money, the US, UK, Russia historically up until modern times have been the largest plunderers on earth. Ukraine has incredible natural resources. Trump appearing to sell his arse to Russia, while their governments made ultimatums for 500billion worth of Ukraine's natural resources is potentially a bargaining tactic. Trying to pressure the Ukrainians to give more of their natural wealth away to the Americans. If they scare the Ukrainians that they could lift support, it will force them to accept their outlandish demands.

We must also understand that the americans initially enticed the Russians to invade Ukraine. They were saying things like were not going to go to war for Ukraine, threatening Turks not to sell Ukraine weapons etc. But the moment Russia took the bait, money and weapons poured in. But the only weapons that poured in were the ones that can continue the meat grinder going on. Also worth keeping in mind as was seen in Syria and Libya, In Syria the Americans and Russians were co-ordinating together against the Turks. In Libya the French and the Russians were doing the same against the Turks. So Russians probably thought the relationship is quite good with the major western powers, so much so that they could ally with them against a NATO ally.

There is also another reality about the anglo-saxon world, they have for much of the last 200 years used the Russians as a balancing act. Used them against Germany, Used them against the Turkic/Muslim Axis, Used against the Chinese and the Japanese. They will prop them up as they have done in both world wars as a counter weight against the non-white power axis, the Turks, Chinese, Japanese etc.

To better correct you the US is looking after its own interests which is why they are being friendly with India now and are aiming to form a wedge between Russia and China, Trump really is a US President that is looking over the interest of his own country which I can never be prouder of because it was quite some time since we had a President look after our interests. I enjoy my freedom as an American and feel like China is exactly the opposite of that like no fun allowed.

However we really really love jews which is probably why we are being dickheads to Turkiye because Israel wants to be the only powerhouse in the middle east which is no surprise anymore.

 

[mehmed beg]

To better correct you the US is looking after its own interests which is why they are being friendly with India now and are aiming to form a wedge between Russia and China, Trump really is a US President that is looking over the interest of his own country which I can never be prouder of because it was quite some time since we had a President look after our interests. I enjoy my freedom as an American and feel like China is exactly the opposite of that like no fun allowed.

However we really really love jews which is probably why we are being dickheads to Turkiye because Israel wants to be the only powerhouse in the middle east which is no surprise anymore.

What you are and what do you really want, I described in these threads over the last couple of years. I described it and referenced and it was according to what you have recorded.
So I don't have the particular need to repeat myself. My position on this matter is very clear.
English were clever once upon time, they gave you February Revolution. Now we are back in November 1916 and how our pussy cats are dreaming of all other perversions and robberies. This is long and already told story,so I will leave it to that
As of Mr Goat Milk and his appeal to brown people
Well those brown have only one thought and that's their complexes. They don't believe in Islam nor in Palestine etc. As a matter of fact, the majority of them hate Turks, just because you have always been free
I wouldn't make it till now if I can't read simple things around me.
They hate me too . If you go to Pakistani forum and see how Serb who pretends that he is a Greeks playing with them. All of that, despise the fact that I and other Bosnian explained them clearly that ruse
Or they will criticise Devshirme to me!
I am a member of the one of the most prominent Yeniceri families????
Oh yes , Turks were colonisers
Traitors to Allah SWT, to country to " soy".
Forgot about them.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Israel wants to be the only powerhouse in the middle east

They failed, and with every passing year it gets worse for them.

 

[FiReFTW]

Exactly, Trump is looking for his own interests and the interests of the USA.

How sad that Europe doesn't get that and will never get that, we never look for our own interests we screw ourselfs over and over and over for others, and we are going down the drain fast.

 

[Iskander]

They failed, and with every passing year it gets worse for them.

Where do you see their failure? I have a slightly different opinion. Israel has a strategic ally - America, the most powerful country in the world. Just the other day, America gave them all kinds of weapons and ammunition worth 7 billion dollars. If necessary, do not doubt, they will give them another 70 billion dollars for free. Compared to the Arab countries, they have an excellent army and air force. They have excellent technology and economy. Who in the area can threaten Israel? Gaza? Jordan? Lebanon? Or maybe Egypt?
Have you noticed how after the single Israeli airstrike last night, Iran has become suspiciously quiet? Why?
Please explain, dispel my doubts, where they failed, and how they are getting worse.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Where do you see their failure? I have a slightly different opinion. Israel has a strategic ally - America, the most powerful country in the world. Just the other day, America gave them all kinds of weapons and ammunition worth 7 billion dollars. If necessary, do not doubt, they will give them another 70 billion dollars for free. Compared to the Arab countries, they have an excellent army and air force. They have excellent technology and economy. Who in the area can threaten Israel? Gaza? Jordan? Lebanon? Or maybe Egypt?
Have you noticed how after the single Israeli airstrike last night, Iran has become suspiciously quiet? Why?
Please explain, dispel my doubts, where they failed, and how they are getting worse.

"Israel wants to be the ONLY powerhouse in the Region" They're not, case closed.

The usa wont be the top dog forever, empires come and go, Turks know that better than anyone.

 

[Oublious]

While I absolutely hate Trump and the US's vulture-like mentality, I have to agree with him on his recent statements

Trump hismelf stated: "why did Zelensky start this war". Another clear sign that Zelensky and his western a**hole friends were intentionally pissing Russia off

Zelensky did have 3 years to make a deal, with the Istanbul deal proposed by Erdogan, could have presumably saved Zelensky's ass as well as most of the territory Russia controlled after the war but the filthy zionists, Boris Jhonson and Victoria Nulland had another say and obviously the master-strategist and jewish clown, Zelensky!

Now with Russia advancing even more than ever and Ukraine having personnel shortages, expect hard concessions from the Ukrainian side

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891966779741643105

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892091592984465452

Whats even funnier is that he literally sold Ukraine out in a second

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891963211080990764

Even France gave Ukraine the middle finger,loooool

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891931054493094225

what exactly did Ukraine do?

 

[Soldier30]

An episode of a battle between Russian servicemen, the 60th assault brigade of the 5th army of the "East" group of forces. The video shows the assault on a stronghold of the Ukrainian army, the location of the shooting is not reported, the dead servicemen in the dugout are removed from the video.

 

[Soldier30]

Footage has been published of a strike by a Russian Iskander-M missile on a group of Ukrainian equipment near the village of Boromlya in the Sumy region of Ukraine. The 27th Rocket Artillery Brigade of the Ukrainian Army is reportedly stationed in the forest. The brigade is armed with 300-mm Olkha MLRS and support equipment. The Olkha MLRS were developed on the basis of the Soviet Smerch MLRS and were accepted into service in 2018. The Olkha MLRS can launch 12 missiles in 48 seconds at a range of up to 130 kilometers. For an unknown reason, one Russian Iskander-M air-burst missile was used for the attack. Due to the shooting range, the extent of the damage is unclear, but the military equipment was densely packed. Official reports indicate that eight passenger vehicles, six armored vehicles, two trucks, a multiple rocket launcher, and a transport and loading vehicle were damaged.

 

[guest12]

Trump just called Zelensky a dictator.

 

[blackjack]

Bad news just does not stop for Ukraine. Russia just opened a new war front from Sumy which looks like it will be planned to put Ukrainians into a cauldron in Kursk. I think Ukraine was using Kusk as a bargaining tool before. No idea if Ukraine will keep their forces or have them withdraw from Kursk and no idea if the Russian forces from Sumy will go towards kyiv or go attack ukraine from the back who are busy trying to handle the Russians from the frontline.


Ukraine is denying it but assuming they are lying that means the new offensive would automatically bring Russian forces closer to kyiv.

Trump just called Zelensky a dictator.

The tweet for guest12's references here. In other words its 110% confirmed Ukraine won't get funding from the US and that Europe will fund the war but no one knows for how long.

 

[contricusc]

Trump just called Zelensky a dictator.

Unfortunatelly Trump will destroy Ukraine and save Putin.

But in the long term, there will be something good out of his presidency. He will put the US on a new path that leads to ruin and international isolation, and the global hegemony of the US will come to an end.

He will damage the US in four years more than all its enemies managed to do since WW2. They elected a clown, they will get a circus.

I really hope he is successful in his “trade war” with the rest of the world, and that he puts tariffs on everything and on all countries, so that the US will stop having the enormous trade deficit that they pay with fake monopoly money while ripping off the rest of the world. I really hope they will finally live within their means, which would make their standard of living equivalent to that of thirld world countries.

US voters deserve what they will get. They elected a Putin-like clown, they will get Russian-like standard of living.

 

[Perun]

I truly do not understand, so called Islamists shilling for The Russians . I don't understand why the hate for Ukraine has become totally personal for them?
I don't understand how so called Muslims support that both Trump and Putin falling over eachother to prop India???
I don't understand how people don't see that after Ukraine, Muslims of Balkan, Caucasus, Central Asia and ultimately Turkey are in the menu???
I truly don't understand how these people ignore history and mentality and etc about Russians ?
I don't understand so called secularists here, how in the light of these events they cry about F35?
Truly the most basic logic.
It seems to me whatever people may or may not believe, they know nothing about it.
Wella Hawle Wella Quwete

I am sure that no one will attack muslims in Southeast Europe

 

[blackjack]

Everyone take this information here with a grain of salt.

 

[Lool]

Unfortunatelly Trump will destroy Ukraine and save Putin.

But in the long term, there will be something good out of his presidency. He will put the US on a new path that leads to ruin and international isolation, and the global hegemony of the US will come to an end.

He will damage the US in four years more than all its enemies managed to do since WW2. They elected a clown, they will get a circus.

I really hope he is successful in his “trade war” with the rest of the world, and that he puts tariffs on everything and on all countries, so that the US will stop having the enormous trade deficit that they pay with fake monopoly money while ripping off the rest of the world. I really hope they will finally live within their means, which would make their standard of living equivalent to that of thirld world countries.

US voters deserve what they will get. They elected a Putin-like clown, they will get Russian-like standard of living.

Just so you know, As long as the whole world uses the dollar as the common international currency; the US will never be isolated even if it nuked half the population to oblivion