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Indonesia tanah airku,
Tanah tumpah darahku,
 

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The day when Indonesian were stand up against colonialism that had no good intentions at all from the first time except to plunder and took as much as they could.

The day when Indonesian said enough for their power and decided only what was good for the colonizer, while Indonesian people had no sovereignty at all except to bowed down to the colonizer.

The day when Indonesian rised up and said, "We have our own sovereignty and would decide what is good for ourselves".

Today is a big day for us Indonesian. We tell the world again that we stand up for our own sovereignty and freedom.

Now the colonizers were gone and we have our own sovereignty, we decide what is good for ourselves, the Indonesian people, through democracy.

But not stop here. Kemerdekaan yang kita punya sekarang ini ringkih (fragile). Demokrasi yang kita punya sekarang ini juga ringkih. Kita harus tetap menjaga kemerdekaan yang kita punya sekarang.

MERDEKA MERDEKA MERDEKA
DIRGAHAYU INDONESIA YANG KE-77
 

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42:40 If Timor Leste can't join ASEAN then they may sell them self to US or China.
Ballsy statement, to voluntary become a mere pawn in the battle of the giants.
 

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42:40 If Timor Leste can't join ASEAN then they may sell them self to US or China.
Ballsy statement, to voluntary become a mere pawn in the battle of the giants.
It's bassically what will make Operation Seroja Pt 2 begin.

US will never let this happend, also Aussie when the danger is in His front door
 

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I think daerah especially that has independent movement must have more leverage to the central government. Decisions from the central government are very influenced from voices of western part of Indonesia, and might be just make them has the sense of not belong to Indonesia. Gak harus timur lah, di Jawa Tengah aja caleg DPR-RI nya orang-orang Jakarta kok wkwk, orang-orang dari dapilnya cuma jadi tim hore sama konvoi berisik gitu.

Increase the number province in eastern part of Indonesia and make DPD to involve in all of the lawmaking process. By that, Indonesia Timur jadi lebih diperhitungkan sampe Pusat.
 

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42:40 If Timor Leste can't join ASEAN then they may sell them self to US or China.
Ballsy statement, to voluntary become a mere pawn in the battle of the giants.
Ini beda kasus sama Taiwan. Mereka mau gimana-gimana terserah mereka, kayak Solomon Islands, bukan dipaksa. Gak bisa apa-apa yang lain.

Tinggal ASEAN aja ini yang mereka gak bisa kontrol. Btw, ASEAN ini keliatan banget produk Indonesia (Angkatan Darat) jaman Cold War wkwk. Pendekatan sosial-ekonomi daripada pertahanan, kayak tugasnya Deputi III AD jaman Demokrasi Terpimpin.

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They're trying to copy Solomon Island in baiting US and allies. Playing "cewek cantik yg diperebutkan banyak orang". They're not naturally 'diperebutkan', hence the move to make them artificially in high demand.

Solomon Island: "Hey Australia & US, why you didn't provide more money to us? Will you give us more money please? No? Fine. Hey China, want to get closer with me? 😉😉"

Australia & US: "Oh no! Why did you get closer to China?! 😱"

Solomon Island: "You don't want me to get closer to China? Sure, but give me money"

Indonesia also used this strategy btw. The difference? Indonesia is naturally 'diperebutkan'.
Rather than saying that TL seeks economic opportunity from China/ US he said that TL will align and become an outpost for either China/ US, sounds like a desperate attempt to join the ASEAN using "threat".
 

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