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Ternyata IRST yg Taiwan beli untuk F16 Viper sudah bisa guide AIM-120 C/D, artinya bisa kill J20 dari jarak 100km+.
Ngeri2 sedap juga bagi China.


Yang paling menarik antara pod sudah terintegrasi satu sama lain, jadi battlespace picture dari multiple pod bisa digabung.

The datalink breakthrough that was demonstrated at Northern Edge essentially coupled a pair of Legion Pods together, on two different Air Force F-15C fighter jets, so that the range of any given target could be determined “near instantaneously,” according to Lockheed Martin.


Kalau cuma mengandalkan satu IRST kayaknya jarak pandangnya bakal terpengaruh FoV nya yang narrow kalau di cue search.

It's true that IRST systems are not very good for volume search especially compared to modern radars vs. 4th gen jets. IRST systems tend to have 2 or 3 different fields of view (basically magnification) for different tasks. Wide FoV is used for volume search and navigation. Narrow FoV is used for cued (small volume) search, identification and single target tracking. Some targeting pods have more FoVs to select from and can have very narrow FoV for very long range targeting and tracking. Those narrow FoVs can be something like 3-8 degrees in most IRST systems and wide FoV is something like 10-20 degrees. Effective range and FoV is basically inversely proportional to each other. Meaning that 5 degree FoV has 3 times the range compared to 15 degree FoV.

 

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Netizen kita diserang balik cuy. Wkwk n kita dikatain pesek.

stereotip mereka kan emang hidungnya kepanjangan wkwkw

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Still less than PRC’s PL-15, next generation missile needed so much.
In short,

F-16 have glass V (RCS 1.2 m²) + IRST21 > It can guide AIM-120D (160 km) to take down J20 without the need for using a radar.

J20 > Needs to activate radar to detect F-16 (No stealth anymore, detectable by F-16 RWR). J20 radar range for F-16 (RCS 1.2 m²) is likely between 150-200 km at best (at least above F-35 radar, or comparable to F-22 radar).

Although J20 has a higher chance of winning, overall, the 1v1 scenario between the two aircraft is on par. IMO, the future is all about electronic warfare, and even passive stealth (RAM) will gradually become obsolete.
 

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Also I never knew the Venezuelan viper has Python IV and litening pods.
 

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Perencannaan yang menggelegar, semoga eksekusiny gak melempem.

Terus dari berbagai render 3d yang ane liat itu ntar banyak pohon2nya(yang mana itu bagus) di tanam di plot taman2 kecil tapi ada juga yang bawahnya pohon itu trotoar, jalan, beton, diatas bangunan, dll dan bukan tanah jadi keknya bakal butuh banyak tukang sapunya.
 

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Guns of the ceremonies (no pistol included)

Af–Pak Region
AK (7,62x39 and 5,45), PK, M16

Gulf Region
AK (7,62x39 and 5,45)

Palestine (West Bank)
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Indonesia’s decision to increase defense spending by 20% next year shows that the country is prioritizing building up its armed forces and arsenal amid a U.S.-China rivalry in Southeast Asia, analysts said.

To guard against a potential escalation of regional tensions between the superpowers, Indonesia will need capital to replace outdated military equipment even as Jakarta has acknowledged it will have to rely on foreign loans to fund a bigger defense budget, observers said.

On Wednesday, Finance Minister Sri Mulyani Indrawati said that the defense budget would rise from U.S. $20.75 billion (321 trillion rupiah) to $25 billion (387 trillion rupiah), partly funded by foreign debt.


Ini anggaran 20 milyar dollar anggaran tahunan pertahanan?
20 milyar (2023), 25 milyar (2024) ini udah bersih apa juga buat yang lain2?
Kemarin2 juga anggaran pertahanan (sebelum jamannya parbs) itu dibawah 10 milyar kan?

Ini boleh ini spending segini? Pake utang lagi.
Anggaran masih kecil tapi pengeluaran besar (pakai utang), ngitungnyya gimana nih? Defense budgetnya.
 
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