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The same crowd that was talking of epic victories by ANA SF last week only to see the whole lot vanish within 24 hours are now tweeting about the mighty Panjsheris. Desperation means grab hold of any flying delusions.
Umm no serious Afghan observer including me personally gloat of such victories. IIRC I've already gave the death sentence to the ANA long before Taliban even capture it's first provincial capital.

On the other hand please explain how Taliban will kept it's remaining airframe operational without spares or even technicians.

Pakistan doesn't operate the Blackhawks btw. Only Mi-17 which have to be overhauled abroad for heavy maintenance.
 

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The same crowd that was talking of epic victories by ANA SF last week only to see the whole lot vanish within 24 hours are now tweeting about the mighty Panjsheris. Desperation means grab hold of any flying delusions.

This group of frustration people
already in desperation mode. 😄

Lie after lie to no avail. 😄
 

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Spare parts?
Pakistan is expert in keeping old western platforms going. A experiance gained over decades after being sanctioned. Non of these platforms are stealth F-35 Raptors. All equipment provided by US to ANA was basic, pretty bottom of the line stuff. Pakistan has a faculity near PAF Kamra in Khyber Pakhtunkwa province just 80 odd miles from Afghan border dedicated to refurbishing old US and French platforms like Mirages, F-16s, M113 US APC's - the latter were supplied to Pakistan by US in 1960s and after half a dozen refurbishments are still the backbone of PA infantry fighting vehicles.

For vehicles, armour, artillery etc

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For all thing related to providing support to the airforce

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The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (Urdu: پاکستان مستقر برائے ہوا پیمائیِ بحری‎), or PAC) is a major defense contractor and an aerospace manufacturer that is headquartered in Kamra, Punjab, Pakistan.[1]
 

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Pakistan doesn't operate the Blackhawks btw.
Turks do. I heard this very question put to Suhail Shaheen the Talib rep yesterday on a Pakistani media and he replied "20 years ago after our country was invaded by the greatest military power in history nobody thought we would prevail 20 years later, well we did". "with that same spirit and fortitude we will resolve all other issues with time".

And I agree with him. Where there is will, there is a way.
 

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Pakistan is expert in keeping old western platforms going. A experiance gained over decades after being sanctioned. Non of these platforms are stealth F-35 Raptors. All equipment provided by US to ANA was basic, pretty bottom of the line stuff. Pakistan has a faculity near PAF Kamra in Khyber Pakhtunkwa province just 80 odd miles from Afghan border dedicated to refurbishing old US and French platforms like Mirages, F-16s, M113 US APC's - the latter were supplied to Pakistan by US in 1960s and after half a dozen refurbishments are still the backbone of PA infantry fighting vehicles.

For vehicles, armour, artillery etc

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For all thing related to providing support to the airforce

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The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (Urdu: پاکستان مستقر برائے ہوا پیمائیِ بحری‎), or PAC) is a major defense contractor and an aerospace manufacturer that is headquartered in Kamra, Punjab, Pakistan.[1]


we're talking about aircraft ok, I've already told before that when it comes to rifles, Humvees or MRAP's. The Taliban will be OK with serviceabililty or even availabilty consider the sheer numbers they captures. Even if they don't have the mechanic good enough , they could always cannibalized parts from other Humvees, MRAP etc.

Heck, a truck/bus mechanic could maintain those Humvees

But aviation on the other hand are bit more complex than that. you'll need specialized parts. You mentioned that ALL equipment inherited from the former ANA are basic ,bottom of the line stuff. Tell me which Pakistan firm produce just one bolt of the GE T-700 engine used in the Blackhawks.

 

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Turks do. I heard this very question put to Suhail Shaheen the Talib rep yesterday on a Pakistani media and he replied "20 years ago after our country was invaded by the greatest military power in history nobody thought we would prevail 20 years later, well we did". "with that same spirit and fortitude we will resolve all other issues with time".

And I agree with him. Where there is will, there is a way.
at this point it just hypothetical, will Turkey jeopardize its relationship or reputation (or what's left of it) with the west so that the Talibs could fly those Blackhawks ?? it's up for Mr.Erdogan.

but for now it's hypothetical.

Again Turkey doesn't produce parts for the GE-T700 for example. and if they did or trying to cannibalize parts from their own stocks could position them in another round of dispute with the US. Remember, it's illegal to sell US made stuff to a third party without US consent.
 

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at this point it just hypothetical, will Turkey jeopardize its relationship or reputation (or what's left of it) with the west so that the Talibs could fly those Blackhawks ?? it's up for Mr.Erdogan.

but for now it's hypothetical.

Again Turkey doesn't produce parts for the GE-T700 for example. and if they did or trying to cannibalize parts from their own stocks could position them in another round of dispute with the US. Remember, it's illegal to sell US made stuff to a third party without US consent.

edit: Turkey DID license produce the GE T-700 (50% local component) and CAN export it (with off course US consent) + Turkey will likely want it paid, so not for free.
 
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No more democracy imposed by foreign invaders to protect them now, well the robbers will be made an example now so no one else dare to do it, As IEA government already said they wont tolerate crimes.

Usually, the Sharia law hater consist of
corruptor, criminals, lgbtq fighter, etc
 

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Umm no serious Afghan observer including me personally gloat of such victories. IIRC I've already gave the death sentence to the ANA long before Taliban even capture it's first provincial capital.

On the other hand please explain how Taliban will kept it's remaining airframe operational without spares or even technicians.

Pakistan doesn't operate the Blackhawks btw. Only Mi-17 which have to be overhauled abroad for heavy maintenance.
Dude it is not space shuttle...
 
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