Bangladesh Air-Force BAF Starts Process To Modernize Second Batch Of Mig-29

[Isa Khan]

So just a overhaul, upgraded radar and avionics

+ engine and weapon upgrade. Last tender was only about Engine overhaul/life extension and new engine.

 

[Micheal Corleone]

+ engine and weapon upgrade. Last tender was only about Engine overhaul/life extension and new engine.

Oh thank god those smokers are gone

 

[Manomed]

Is the mig-29s bought by Bangladesh any good? I heard lots of bad stuff about Mig-29 would like to hear bangladeshi side of the story

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Is the mig-29s bought by Bangladesh any good? I heard lots of bad stuff about Mig-29 would like to hear bangladeshi side of the story

We were supposed to get more Migs but the next gov cancelled the order and refused to take the Migs That we had paid for out of personal spite and sell the ones we have today. . I saw somewhere that by the time F-16 engines were overhauled, Fulcrums engines would have to go through six overhauls.
I would say Migs are maintenance heavy fighters just look at this article

Cheap To Own, Expensive To Use​

Part of the reason why the MiGs were expensive and difficult to maintain was that Russian equipment were generally not made to match the high standards of their western counterparts. They are generally simple to operate and rugged to allow for operations under austere conditions but are certainly not made to last. They are relatively cheap to produce in large quantities so if any were to break down, they can be easily replaced rather than repaired. According to Mark Bobbi of IHS, during the Cold War, the Soviet Union's massive defense spending resulted in and allowed for hugely wasteful procurement practices where by aircraft manufacturers such as Mikoyan Gurevich and Sukhoi would design so called " throwaway aircrafts ", expected to operate for ten years or so with little or no maintenance before they were scrapped and replaced with all new aircrafts. So if you are trying to get some Russian or legacy Soviet equipment repaired, be ready to face some real hurdles.

The quality of service and support from Russia is also simply not at the same level as those from Western companies like Boeing or Dassault. Apart from the language barrier, the work culture is entirely different. Business ethics may be non-existent, as the Russian supply chain is notoriously known to be the most inefficient and corrupt.

To make matters worse, the Malaysians themselves imposed restrictions as to who could supply parts and carry out maintenance works on their aircrafts. It seemed that only companies majority owned by indigenous people could qualify and they of course seized the opportunity to inflate prices, since there was little transparency and almost no competition. In the end, each Fulcrum would cost $5 million to service annually, and that's in US Dollars, not the Malaysian Riggit which in recent times had fallen to historical lows.

Malaysia's MiG-29N : Fulcrum Most Tenacious

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Fun fact: We wanted to get F-16s but the US refused to sell them to us. We even sent pilots to train in Turkey. Erbakan was in power at the time.

 

[Manomed]

We were supposed to get more Migs but the next gov cancelled the order and refused to take the Migs That we had paid for out of personal spite and sell the ones we have today. . I saw somewhere that by the time F-16 engines were overhauled, Fulcrums engines would have to go through six overhauls.
I would say Migs are maintenance heavy fighters just look at this article

Cheap To Own, Expensive To Use​

Part of the reason why the MiGs were expensive and difficult to maintain was that Russian equipment were generally not made to match the high standards of their western counterparts. They are generally simple to operate and rugged to allow for operations under austere conditions but are certainly not made to last. They are relatively cheap to produce in large quantities so if any were to break down, they can be easily replaced rather than repaired. According to Mark Bobbi of IHS, during the Cold War, the Soviet Union's massive defense spending resulted in and allowed for hugely wasteful procurement practices where by aircraft manufacturers such as Mikoyan Gurevich and Sukhoi would design so called " throwaway aircrafts ", expected to operate for ten years or so with little or no maintenance before they were scrapped and replaced with all new aircrafts. So if you are trying to get some Russian or legacy Soviet equipment repaired, be ready to face some real hurdles.

The quality of service and support from Russia is also simply not at the same level as those from Western companies like Boeing or Dassault. Apart from the language barrier, the work culture is entirely different. Business ethics may be non-existent, as the Russian supply chain is notoriously known to be the most inefficient and corrupt.

To make matters worse, the Malaysians themselves imposed restrictions as to who could supply parts and carry out maintenance works on their aircrafts. It seemed that only companies majority owned by indigenous people could qualify and they of course seized the opportunity to inflate prices, since there was little transparency and almost no competition. In the end, each Fulcrum would cost $5 million to service annually, and that's in US Dollars, not the Malaysian Riggit which in recent times had fallen to historical lows.

Malaysia's MiG-29N : Fulcrum Most Tenacious

daisetsuzan.blogspot.com

Fun fact: We wanted to get F-16s but the US refused to sell them to us. We even sent pilots to train in Turkey. Erbakan was in power at the time.

I know bangladesh and Pakistan have sour relations but JF-17 could fill the role for BAF they are basically poor mans F-16

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

I know bangladesh and Pakistan have sour relations but JF-17 could fill the role for BAF they are basically poor mans F-16

if we can get the real thing (F-16V) or even better , then why not plus Myanmar operates Jf-17. They would know the Strengths and weaknesses of Jf-17.

 

[Isa Khan]

I know bangladesh and Pakistan have sour relations but JF-17 could fill the role for BAF they are basically poor mans F-16

The current contenders for the MRCA program are EFT, Rafale, F-16 and F-18. JF -17 is way too old topic now.

 

[Manomed]

The current contenders for the MRCA program are EFT, Rafale, F-16 and F-18. JF -17 is way too old topic now.

EFT would be better

 

[Isa Khan]

BAF plans to upgrade the last four Mig-29SE to BM standard this FY.

 

[Isa Khan]

BAF issued tender again to upgrade the second batch of Mig-29.

 

[Afif]

BAF issued tender again to upgrade the second batch of Mig-29.

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I thought MRCA program was to replace these old relics! Or was it for replacing f7s ? do you have anything solid on it ?

 

[Micheal Corleone]

I thought MRCA program was to replace these old relics! Or was it for replacing f7s ? do you have anything solid on it ?

F7 mb were to be replaced. Now that squadron probably doesn’t exist

 

[Isa Khan]

I thought MRCA program was to replace these old relics!

Migs will serve at least till 2030.

 

[Isa Khan]

Details about the Belarusian Mig-29 upgrade for an idea on our Mig-29 upgrade.

https://www.558arp.by/images/2020/napravlenie-deyatelnosti/modernizaciya-AT/doc/upgrade_MiG-29_aircraft_eng.pdf