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"We all know who is threatening whom with 'casus belli' in the Eastern Mediterranean," Mitsotakis said.

Mitsotakis: In the event of an attack, Europe's only nuclear power, France, will stand by our country.

 

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ATHENS, Oct 7 (Reuters) - Greek lawmakers ratified on Thursday a new defence agreement between Greece and France that will allow them to come to each other's aid in the event of an external threat, but which has stirred further tensions with Turkey.

The strategic military and defence cooperation pact between the two NATO allies was clinched last month and includes an order for three French frigates worth about 3 billion euros. Athens had already ordered some 24 Dassault-made Rafale fighter jets this year. read more

The 300-seat parliament approved the agreement by 191 votes in favour and 109 against. The leftist opposition Syriza party voted against the accord.

"For the first time it is clearly stipulated that there be military assistance in the event of a third party attacking one of the two states," Prime Minister Kyraikos Mitsotakis told lawmakers before the vote.


"And we all know who is threatening whom with a casus belli (cause for war) in the Mediterranean," he added, in a clear reference to Turkey.

All NATO allies are required to come to the aid of a member state that suffers aggression, but the decades-old tensions between Athens and Ankara are complicated by the fact that Turkey is also a member of the Atlantic alliance.

Greece and Turkey are currently at odds over the extent of their continental shelves and their maritime boundaries, a fact that has hindered any expansion by Athens of its territorial waters to 12 miles (19 km) in the Aegean.

Turkey, which lies to Greece's east, says such a move from Athens would be a casus belli. Some Greek islands lie less than 12 miles from Turkey's western coast.


TURKEY'S REACTION TO THE PACT

The Athens-Paris pact angered Ankara, which said in a statement on Oct.1, that Greece's "maximalist maritime jurisdiction area and national airspace claims" were in contravention of international law and that it would strengthen Turkey's determination to protect its rights in the region.

"Greece's policy of armament as well as isolation and alienation of Turkey, instead of cooperation, is a problematic policy, which will threaten regional peace and stability and undermine not only itself but also the EU, which Greece is a member of," Turkish Foreign ministry spokesperson Tanju Bilgiç said.

French officials have stressed the deal did not target Turkey and that it was fully in line with NATO.


"This is not an agreement that is directed against Turkey or anyone else, it is an agreement that is in line with our common goal, Greece and France, to strengthen European sovereignty, including in the Eastern Mediterranean, where we have crucial interests," a French presidential official told reporters in a briefing on Sept. 28.

"So we would not understand if Turkey overreacts to an agreement that is not directed against them," he said.

As well as the continental shelf issue, relations between Greece and Turkey have long been strained over other territorial issues in the Eastern Mediterranean, including air space, energy, the status of some Aegean islands, and the ethnically-split island of Cyprus.

The two countries re-launched exploratory contacts on their disputes earlier this year. Another round of bilateral discussions, which are informal, took place in Ankara on Oct. 6.

Reporting by Lefteris Papadimas, Michele Kambas and George Georgiopoulos Additional reporting by John Irish in Paris Writing by Michele Kambas Editing by Gareth Jones and Frances Kerry

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...t-third-party-aggression-greek-pm-2021-10-07/
 

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This agreement will make us stronger and some countries will have to think twice. I congratulate him for signing this agreement
 

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"We all know who is threatening whom with 'casus belli' in the Eastern Mediterranean," Mitsotakis said.

Mitsotakis: In the event of an attack, Europe's only nuclear power, France, will stand by our country.


Is he drunk? What about the UK?
 

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This agreement will make us stronger and some countries will have to think twice. I congratulate him for signing this agreement
And you think France come to help you in case of?
You think the other side doesnt have nuclear backing komsu?
 
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This agreement will make us stronger and some countries will have to think twice. I congratulate him for signing this agreement
You ain't strong buddy you are just a scared country taking refuge in strong countries umbrellas you did this in 1974 and 22 we know how it ended
 

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If the Greek prime minister can officially target Turkey by referring to an agreement signed between the two countries and imply joining of a nuclear power to the arm race, then this development will radically change Turkey's perception of the threat.

Unknowingly, France and Greece are provoking Turkey and I think these developments will have very different consequences for these two. From now on, we can talk about a nuclear Turkey against a nuclear threat and France will see that the range of Turkish missiles will be updated to cover the whole of France in the medium to long term. In this way, I think they will have the opportunity to more closely test the extent of the adventure they joined in a geography where they do not belong.
 

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If the Greek prime minister can officially target Turkey by referring to an agreement signed between the two countries and imply joining of a nuclear power to the arm race, then this development will radically change Turkey's perception of the threat.

Unknowingly, France and Greece are provoking Turkey and I think these developments will have very different consequences for these two. From now on, we can talk about a nuclear Turkey against a nuclear threat and France will see that the range of Turkish missiles will be updated to cover the whole of France in the medium to long term. In this way, I think they will have the opportunity to more closely test the extent of the adventure they joined in a geography where they do not belong.
I think its just a piece of paper to strengthen the deal.
 

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I think its just a piece of paper to strengthen the deal.

Bro, The threat perception of countries does not bypass any possibility. If there is an official threat, an official response is produced and the balance is established in this way. This issue, which Greece sees as a good development at the moment, will cause great trouble tomorrow. When the war suddenly breaks out, it is too late for everything so serious states have to be prepared for any likely scenario and Turkey will do what is necessary.
 

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You ain't strong buddy you are just a scared country taking refuge in strong countries umbrellas you did this in 1974 and 22 we know how it ended
No, we are not strong. We are a country of 10,7 million people without a significant industry, recovering from an enormous economic crisis and we need any help we can get. Also, let me remind you of 1821.
 

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No, we are not strong. We are a country of 10,7 million people without a significant industry, recovering from an enormous economic crisis and we need any help we can get. Also, let me remind you 1821.
We are. Do not think that our potential is low. Yeah maybe we do not have big army but we have strong allies.
 

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You ain't strong buddy you are just a scared country taking refuge in strong countries umbrellas you did this in 1974 and 22 we know how it ended
This is not related to turkey. This is related to Greece security policy
 

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If the Greek prime minister can officially target Turkey by referring to an agreement signed between the two countries and imply joining of a nuclear power to the arm race, then this development will radically change Turkey's perception of the threat.

Unknowingly, France and Greece are provoking Turkey and I think these developments will have very different consequences for these two. From now on, we can talk about a nuclear Turkey against a nuclear threat and France will see that the range of Turkish missiles will be updated to cover the whole of France in the medium to long term. In this way, I think they will have the opportunity to more closely test the extent of the adventure they joined in a geography where they do not belong.
Let's be honest, France wants to be the boss in East Med. They want to control Suez and change the status quo in North Africa and Middle east
 

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