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sooner or later we'll have to crush sdf or we'll have a brand new pkk state

This just shows how vulernable the ypg is hence why they are jumping on the americans and the russians lap.

Time is running out just a matter of time before their stupid rojava gets crushed.
 

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This just shows how vulernable the ypg is hence why they are jumping on the americans and the russians lap.

Time is running out just a matter of time before their stupid rojava gets crushed.
sooner or later we'll have to crush sdf or we'll have a brand new pkk state
So what are we waiting for? Even more reason to move in sooner rather then later.
Agreed tbh
That is why Turkey needs to act now
I just hope that the operation wont be cancelled behind the scenes
 

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Russia, the USA and EU are all pro-pkkistan because it balkanises the region, makes it weaker and allows them to occupy it easier. Not to mention it makes Isreal feel much safer. Meanwhile a few kurds at the polish border is tantamount to war for the europeans.

What i dont understand is why this clown erdogan keeps thinking these guys are going to give him permission. They are doing it because they want to balkanise Turkey, to harm her.

The fact all the media in Turkey has gone silent on syria suggests that erodgan yet again has bowed his head.
 

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Only Erdogan and AK party are confused. As far as Russia and the USA are concerned its clear what they are doing, what they have been doing and ultimately what their end game is.

If pkkistan is established in syria the same way the KRG is established iraq, you will wake up one morning and Turkey will be portrayed as the enemy. American entrenchment recently in Greece is preparing for this. We seen how these people destroy nations on lies and how entire media spectrum is enforced to convince the world of these actions.

Unfortunately this mess could have all been avoided with wise leadership.
 

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According to rumour US willing to give up some YPG held positions in return for Turkey joining Blacksea Ops.
There isn't even a decent American military presence left on our border. Moreover, the Russians set up a lot of military bases on our border. It's too late for this offer now. The USA realized the value of Turkey too late.
 

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There isn't even a decent American military presence left on our border.

There doesnt have to be. A convoy is enough to deter us from attacking, heck I am actually thinking, maybe even diplomatical intimidation is enough. Unfortunately we dont have the balls we used to have. Thats partly due to the guy on top having a Democles sword hanging over his neck aka Halkbank lawsuit.

The USA realized the value of Turkey too late.

The USA is a company that is led by the shareholders. The thing about shareholders is that they dont care about the companys well-being in the long term. They care about themselves.
USA is a country without a state mind. It only takes some lobbying to change its foreign policy.

So I am against the notion, they ''realise'' things.
 

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"Hey guy's we'll give up a little of this massive terrorist state we're creating if you come pew pew some Russians with us in the black sea, even though we're coordinating with said Russians to create said terrorist state on your border. Great deal or what?"
 

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According to rumour US willing to give up some YPG held positions in return for Turkey joining Blacksea Ops.
Oh boy

If such rumors are true, Erdo and Turkey is screwed!
Now if Turkey refused, The West will use this chance to portray Turkey and turks as infidels, scumbags, invaders, genociders etc; in order to fuel anti-Turkey sentiment further even though the Turks (throughout the last 2 decades) have been the most pro-active country among NATO members

If Turkey accepted, the West will give Turkey the middle finger and let Turkey face Russia alone when push comes to shove; in addition to that, Russia might stop the nuclear deal between Turkey and Russia which means Turkish scientists studying nuclear tech in Russia will return (if they arent killed) and Turkish energy dependency will persist for some more years and lets not mention Syria and Libya

Honestly, a sinister yet cunning move by the US. Turkey's response may set Turkey's foreign policy for the next 1.5 years and there may be no going back
Both are evils tbh. I wonder which is the lesser one
I wonder how Erdo will wiggle out of this mess (if he can though)
 

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