TR Marine Mavi Vatan (Blue Homeland)

[Akritas]

Gratefully we had Atatürk who created Mavi Vatan.

Enlighten me?
As is known Mavi Vatan is produced by two Turkish admirals , Cem Gürdeniz and Cihat Yaycı.

 

[Ryder]

Greece invaded Ottoman Empire's Anatolia. They came almost Bursa.
Notice it was not just Ottoman's soil, it was Motherland of Turks.
It wasn't the just lost of the war, it was the surrender of the last Sultan. Sultan ordered obeying Greeks with out any fights.

Gratefully we had Atatürk who created Mavi Vatan.

Ottoman Empire lost ww1 and most of its territory got partitioned among the Allies.

Greeks did not invade the Ottoman Empire out of fun they got green light from the British and the French due to the aftermath ww1. British promised the Greeks lots of land if they joined them in ww1.

 

[Akritas]

British promised the Greeks lots of land if they joined them in ww1.

Nope, this is the problem that raised the so called National Schism , between the King Constantine and Venizelos.
Constantine's insistence on neutrality, according to him and his supporters, was based more on his judgement that it was the best policy for Greece.
Venizelos wanted to bring Greece into the war on the side of the Allies.
Allies promised nothing.
As regards the Asia Minor Campaign, Allied powers(except Italy because wanted for her favour the region) supported Greek troops to go only in Smyrna region or Aidin Vilayet for 5 years.

 

[Turko]

Enlighten me?
As is known Mavi Vatan is produced by two Turkish admirals , Cem Gürdeniz and Cihat Yaycı.

They created just the name. İmagine in the 1930ies, 1940ies, 1950ies , Did Turkey have Blue Homeland problem? Nope because Greece didnt want to expand its coastal lines. You started creating the problems with expansional behavior.

Greek İnvasion of the Anatolian soil first time had showed reality before Atatürk liberalised Turkish Motherland.

Now again Greeks again Turkey is under threat of Greek expansion.

 

[Ryder]

Nope, this is the problem that raised the so called National Schism , between the King Constantine and Venizelos.
Constantine's insistence on neutrality, according to him and his supporters, was based more on his judgement that it was the best policy for Greece.
Venizelos wanted to bring Greece into the war on the side of the Allies.
Allies promised nothing.
As regards the Asia Minor Campaign, Allied powers(except Italy because wanted for her favour the region) supported Greek troops to go only in Smyrna region or Aidin Vilayet for 5 years.

There had to be some sort of incentive for the Greeks to join the Allies.

British promised everybody incentives if they joined them example the Armenians, Arabs, Jews, Assyrians, Italians, Chinese and you name it.

 

[CAN_TR]

You dont want peacefully solution, because you refused to come before the International Court, invoking its non-recognition of the Court’s jurisdiction and by denying United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.
The opportunity for war is clearly being sought, after all you have only been waging wars in recent years, even among your own people. I speak directly for the followers of AKP and MHP.

Did the USA or Israel signed the UNCLOS?

Weak arguements but it seems enough to justify your ridiculous claims.

 

[Akritas]

Did the USA or Israel signed the UNCLOS?

Weak arguements but it seems enough to justify your ridiculous claims.

I dont care what did or do USA and Israel.
Greece doesn't have problems with USA and Israel, but only with the 'common denominator' of region's troubles, the troublemaker of the East Med: Turkey

 

[Barry]

Dripping with impotent hate. Lad is pure comedy

 

[Manomed]

Guys we should stop bullying him hes gonna start crying and will talk about how TVRKS killed their empire and their 900k people lol

 

[Manomed]

No you're not, several Democracy index are clear..... Turkey is rated Not Free or Moderate Autocracy

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Modern times yeah still doesn't change the fact greeks were under kinga and dictators for years you are seething hard

 

[Akritas]

They created just the name. İmagine in the 1930ies, 1940ies, 1950ies , Did Turkey have Blue Homeland problem? Nope because Greece didnt want to expand its coastal lines. You started creating the problems with expansional behavior.

Greek İnvasion of the Anatolian soil first time had showed reality before Atatürk liberalised Turkish Motherland.

Now again Greeks again Turkey is under threat of Greek expansion.

How to expand when Greece has invite Turkey to go in the International Court to solve the delimitation of exclusive economic zones and the use of the continental shelf ?
Greece solved the EEZ issues with Egypt and Italy, with Albania will go to the Hague.......Turkey his hava(threats tactic).

 

[Manomed]

How to expand when Greece has invite Turkey to go in the International Court to solve the delimitation of exclusive economic zones and the use of the continental shelf ?
Greece solved the EEZ issues with Egypt and Italy, with Albania will go to the Hague.......Turkey his hava(threats tactic).

Except Turkey doesn't call other countries to threat turkey We got the EEZ from libya you got the shortstick also before calling turkey dictatorship ain't your country is a ally with EGYPT country literally under militiary dictatorship If you live in a glass house don't try to throw rock to others. Also greece is literally supporting dictator haftar too lmao

 

[Turko]

How to expand when Greece has invite Turkey to go in the International Court to solve the delimitation of exclusive economic zones and the use of the continental shelf ?
Greece solved the EEZ issues with Egypt and Italy, with Albania will go to the Hague.......Turkey his hava(threats tactic).

İf you want increase your coasts gradually ( first from 3 miles to 6 now from 6 to 12) it means expansion.

 

[CAN_TR]

I dont care what did or do USA and Israel.
Greece doesn't have problems with USA and Israel, but only with the 'common denominator' of region's troubles, the troublemaker of the East Med: Turkey

So UNCLOS only applies for Turkey but for Israel and USA you don't care, because they aren't threatening your megalomaniac fantasies? Smells like hypocrisy...

 

[Akritas]

We got the EEZ from libya you.....

Well, two years later the Libyan Parliament still has not verified the agreement between the former temporary Libyan government and Turkey, as it should according to the formation document of the Libyan Government of National Accord (GNA), so officially there is no EEZ agreement.

 

[Akritas]

İf you want increase your coasts gradually ( first from 3 miles to 6 now from 6 to 12) it means expansion.

That's why you go to the International Court to avoid future deviations.
But who avoids the International Court of Justice? But Turkey, who else.
For your information, is matter of time the expansion to 12 miles of the Greek East coastline as Turkey done in his North coastline.

 

[Manomed]

Well, two years later the Libyan Parliament still has not verified the agreement between the former temporary Libyan government and Turkey, as it should according to the formation document of the Libyan Government of National Accord (GNA), so officially there is no EEZ agreement.

Smells like bullshit from a greek supporting dicatorships in libya

 

[Rodeo]

For your information, is matter of time the expansion to 12 miles of the Greek East coastline as Turkey done in his North coastline.

Why stop there? Greece could theoretically extend her sea borders by 30 miles. Why not? It's just words. The most vital question is "does Greece have the means to enforce the extension?" The day you extend your borders to 12 miles, the Turkish Navy will convene and schedule an immediate navy drill in the region. Then you will have Turkish Navy doing military exercise in your supposed borders. What are you gonna do then? Will you shoot and sink some ships? Can you dare? What will happen next? These extension claims are meaningless before you can answer these questions.

 

[Akritas]

Why stop there? Greece could theoretically extend her sea borders by 30 miles. Why not? It's just words. The most vital question is "does Greece have the means to enforce the extension?" The day you extend your borders to 12 miles, the Turkish Navy will convene and schedule an immediate navy drill in the region. Then you will have Turkish Navy doing military exercise in your supposed borders. What are you gonna do then? Will you shoot and sink some ships? Can you dare? What will happen next? These extension claims are meaningless before you can answer these questions.

You can go anything you want at the international waters, spend money(if you have anymore) , but the day that you violate the Greek territorial sea, you'll take the proper answers.

 

[Akritas]

Smells like bullshit from a greek supporting dicatorships in libya

Libyan Parliament is dictatoship?