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It is still related to economy, bro do you find weird and strange when Iranian President said the state budget will be about 800 billion USD in 2022 ? I feel amusing no Iranian member in PDF see the figure as something beyond belief considering Iranian nominal GDP figure ( their latest figure is due to USD that is pegged)

This is the reason of why their nominal GDP is inflating


Is there link to this statement the budget will be 800 billion for just one year? Its definitely BS btw.

Maybe he means for like 5 or 10 year total projected spending plan or something I dont know.

Iran GDP is barely about 200 billion USD right now in nominal terms because of its very low interaction with world trade + investment (so its currency is very undervalued and inflated and stuck domestically).

No way a country can have budget 4 times its GDP heh.
 

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Is there link to this statement the budget will be 800 billion for just one year? Its definitely BS btw.

Maybe he means for like 5 or 10 year total projected spending plan or something I dont know.

Iran GDP is barely about 200 billion USD right now in nominal terms because of its very low interaction with world trade + investment (so its currency is very undervalued and inflated and stuck domestically).

No way a country can have budget 4 times its GDP heh.

Their GDP is now around 600 billion USD due to the controlled rate of USD, just look at current Iran GDP figure. Iran somehow capable to do this while Turkey cannot even maintain their Lira value

 

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NIIP = external assets - external liabilities

If its in negative, it means the country is net debtor (owes more externally than is owed to it) to rest of world.

Positive, means the country is net creditor (owed more to it than it owes externally) to rest of world.

Basically India is net debtor country and on final balance sheet owes a net amont of about 380 billion USD (debt) right now to rest of world.


They use "investment" here as technically you are investing in a country when you buy a bond from its govt for example.

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Regarding more on NIIP....

Wiki page has interesting table (using IMF data: https://data.imf.org/regular.aspx?key=62805745) when you order by biggest negative NIIP:

NIIP.jpg


in that in South Asia:
Pakistan has about 1/3rd the negative NIIP (net external liability) of India....but on an economy 10 times smaller.

Leading to NIIP % of GDP for Pakistan at 45%

% wise Bangladesh is similar to India (around 12% of GDP)

Pakistan's credit rating is also very bad (speculative/junk) on top to have NIIP at 45% of GDP and service that at higher relative interest each year (due to the bad credit rating).

These are significant underlying matters along with domestic savings that explains their current (likely very long term) economic predicament.

i.e stuff like Having to borrow and even celebrate a 3 billion loan from KSA (and 1.2 billion oil deferred payment) at very high interest rates and very extreme conditions....

....while PRC gives them nothing to help (no one there will ask why) in comparison.

brought up in this page discussion for anyone interested: https://defencehub.live/threads/pakistan-economy-updates.3862/page-4

i.e 45% NIIP essentially shows Pak economy and PKR is over-leveraged already (with credit rating as it is)

i.e well exceeded what the world is naturally ready to invest in you loan investment wise.

This (KSA loan) is all supposed to help their forex and PKR recover some value....but the results show different and speak for themselves....PKR is almost at 180 now.

This over-leveraged NIIP is largely due to Pakistan domestic savings being incredibly low at 20 billion USD for its population of 230 million....and has been stuck there for 20 years.

Compare that with (latest year gross domestic savings):

1 trillion USD for India
350 billion USD for Indonesia
80 billion USD for Bangladesh
80 billion USD for Vietnam

(Also factor in their population sizes w.r.t Pakistan and it becomes even worse)

By stuck just see that in 2004, Indonesia total saving was 60 billion USD....Pakistan was 20 billion back then too.

INA grew 6 times now (similar expansion to others I mentioned).....PAK stayed the same.

This is all part of what drives the toxicity, fear and anger in certain Pakistani fora.

They do not even know how to bring up (forget discuss) this basic stuff....just blame whichever foreign conspiracy and/or political goon that their army switches around every few years.

Many of them blame their regular (poor) people....while sitting in some foreign country.

They will continue to learn the bigger lesson the hard way this decade as result. You watch and see.

PDF (reflective of PK elitists) is fantasy world digging deeper into fantasy and make believe (and other worse things, but lets not go there).
 

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Their GDP is now around 600 billion USD due to the controlled rate of USD, just look at current Iran GDP figure. Iran somehow capable to do this while Turkey cannot even maintain their Lira value


I'm going by world bank:


It seems it was 600 billion around 2012 and then has taken a huge tumble now in USD value since then.

I had quick look into it just now...(Iran GDP estimate in USD).

I think world bank applies what the "actual" exchange rate on market is (~ 3 times lower than official)

IMF uses the official exchange rate and gets 600 - 700 billion USD GDP etc.

What world bank does:




In other areas world bank mentions the official exchange rate GDP:


Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has been estimated at US$628 billion for the Iranian calendar year 2020/21, calculated at the official exchange rate for a population of about 84 million.

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Still 800 billion dollar budget or whatever makes no sense.

We simply can take planned rial expenditure, look at history of the budget.....and apply either official or actual exchange rate to get in some USD equivalent.

It will not be anywhere close to 800 billion USD.

But then again I do not know what GDP base Iran govt is estimating for itself (could be quite different to IMF and World bank figures).

With highly insular country economies, these conversations are somewhat meaningless in end as there are not even reference points with world trade indicators.

In 2020 Iran exported around 50 billion USD (for a country rich in oil and gas).

That is part of how WB gets the "actual" exchange rate of rial to USD etc.

Because in 2011 it exported almost 150 billion USD in comparison.

With a third of export level now....(to earn and finance say import + CA level etc)....how can economy have stayed at 2011 level etc?....or even grown? It would need huge expansion of other industries and some evidence of productivity there (i.e providing it to world and competing with world references rather than just "domestic").....we simply do not have it.
 

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I'm going by world bank:


It seems it was 600 billion around 2012 and then has taken a huge tumble now in USD value since then.

I had quick look into it just now...(Iran GDP estimate in USD).

I think world bank applies what the "actual" exchange rate on market is (~ 3 times lower than official)

IMF uses the official exchange rate and gets 600 - 700 billion USD GDP etc.

What world bank does:




In other areas world bank mentions the official exchange rate GDP:


Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has been estimated at US$628 billion for the Iranian calendar year 2020/21, calculated at the official exchange rate for a population of about 84 million.

=====================================

Still 800 billion dollar budget or whatever makes no sense.

We simply can take planned rial expenditure, look at history of the budget.....and apply either official or actual exchange rate to get in some USD equivalent.

It will not be anywhere close to 800 billion USD.

But then again I do not know what GDP base Iran govt is estimating for itself (could be quite different to IMF and World bank figures).

With highly insular country economies, these conversations are somewhat meaningless in end as there are not even reference points with world trade indicators.

In 2020 Iran exported around 50 billion USD (for a country rich in oil and gas).

That is part of how WB gets the "actual" exchange rate of rial to USD etc.

Because in 2011 it exported almost 150 billion USD in comparison.

With a third of export level now....(to earn and finance say import + CA level etc)....how can economy have stayed at 2011 level etc?....or even grown? It would need huge expansion of other industries and some evidence of productivity there (i.e providing it to world and competing with world references rather than just "domestic").....we simply do not have it.

Thank you for the analysist

Oya, some time ago you asked about Indonesia digital transaction, here I get the latest update

 

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Both sides are eyeing the possibility of one of Taiwan’s semiconductor giants, including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) and United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC), setting up a facility in India.



India and Taiwan have begun talks on a free trade pact and creating a semiconductor manufacturing hub in the country as part of efforts to meet the burgeoning demand for the chips needed for products ranging from cellphones to cars.

The two sides set up four groups earlier this year that are focusing on creating a semiconductor manufacturing hub, education and training of highly specialised manpower needed for the industry, a bilateral investment agreement and a free trade agreement, two people familiar with the matter said.

The contacts on these issues gathered momentum around the middle of this year and the group on semiconductors met twice virtually, in August and September, while there was one round of talks on the proposed trade pact, the people cited above said.

Both sides are eyeing the possibility of one of Taiwan’s semiconductor giants, including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) and United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC), setting up a facility in India. The Indian side has proposed several sites for the hub though the two sides are yet to come to a final decision, the people said.

“It is a very complicated process because a company like TSMC uses components from hundreds of other firms. Setting up a hub in India means convincing those firms to also set up a facility in India to ensure the supply of components,” one of the people cited above said.

If the proposal is finalised, it will be only the second such manufacturing hub set up in a foreign country by a Taiwanese manufacturer. TSMC, which has a market value of more than $550 billion and accounts for about 54% of global revenues from semiconductors, has set up a $12-billion fabrication plant in the US that is expected to start production in 2024. TSMC is also eyeing possible facilities in Japan and Europe.

For Taiwan, such investments are linked to strategic gains at a time when China has increased its pressure on the island, stepping up incursions into its air defence zone and taking tensions in the Taiwan Strait to a new high amid threatening talk of an invasion. The Taiwanese decision to create the semiconductor manufacturing hub in the US was seen as closely linked to military support extended by Washington to Taipei.

Taiwan is also hoping such moves will translate into greater support for its efforts in other areas, such as a presence at the World Health Organization (WHO). As part of overall efforts to increase trade and investment, Taiwan is also eyeing the possibility of opening a representative office in Mumbai because of the potential for investments and manufacturing in Maharashtra and Gujarat.

India and Taiwan established representative offices in each other’s capitals in 1995. A second Taipei Economic and Cultural Center was established in Chennai in 2012.

As with most contacts with Taiwan, the Indian side has been proceeding cautiously, largely because of the tensions with China over the military standoff in Ladakh sector of the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

However, India’s rapidly growing need for semiconductors – expected to be around $100 billion by 2025, up from the current level of $2 billion – is the main reason for the government’s push in the field. On Wednesday, the Union cabinet approved a production-linked incentive scheme with an outlay of ₹76,000 crore ($10 billion) for development of a semiconductor and display manufacturing ecosystem.

The government has also committed support of ₹2,30,000 crore ($30 billion) to position India as a global hub for electronics manufacturing, with semiconductors as the foundational block.

Sana Hashmi, Taiwan fellow at the Institute of International Relations at the National Chengchi University in Taipei, said advancing economic ties falls in the framework of the unofficial relations between India and Taiwan.

“One of the primary objectives of the Taipei Economic and Cultural Center in Delhi and the India-Taipei Association (ITA) in Taipei is to work towards strengthening commercial ties,” she said.

Hashmi said though China objects to all contacts with Taiwan, there has been an understanding that cooperation on economic and cultural issues and science and technology doesn’t violate adherence to the “One China” policy by other nations.

“Seemingly, it was fine for other countries as long as China was reaping the benefits of Taiwanese investments. Now with the growing cross-Strait tensions, Taiwan’s focus has been on pulling out investments from China and reducing its dependence. Cooperation in the semiconductor industry is one of India’s main interests vis-a-vis Taiwan,” she said.

“Several agreements are already in place between India and Taiwan. So, another agreement in the economic field doesn’t violate the ‘One China’ policy,” she added.


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Both sides are eyeing the possibility of one of Taiwan’s semiconductor giants, including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) and United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC), setting up a facility in India.


India and Taiwan have begun talks on a free trade pact and creating a semiconductor manufacturing hub in the country as part of efforts to meet the burgeoning demand for the chips needed for products ranging from cellphones to cars.

The two sides set up four groups earlier this year that are focusing on creating a semiconductor manufacturing hub, education and training of highly specialised manpower needed for the industry, a bilateral investment agreement and a free trade agreement, two people familiar with the matter said.

The contacts on these issues gathered momentum around the middle of this year and the group on semiconductors met twice virtually, in August and September, while there was one round of talks on the proposed trade pact, the people cited above said.

Both sides are eyeing the possibility of one of Taiwan’s semiconductor giants, including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) and United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC), setting up a facility in India. The Indian side has proposed several sites for the hub though the two sides are yet to come to a final decision, the people said.

“It is a very complicated process because a company like TSMC uses components from hundreds of other firms. Setting up a hub in India means convincing those firms to also set up a facility in India to ensure the supply of components,” one of the people cited above said.

If the proposal is finalised, it will be only the second such manufacturing hub set up in a foreign country by a Taiwanese manufacturer. TSMC, which has a market value of more than $550 billion and accounts for about 54% of global revenues from semiconductors, has set up a $12-billion fabrication plant in the US that is expected to start production in 2024. TSMC is also eyeing possible facilities in Japan and Europe.

For Taiwan, such investments are linked to strategic gains at a time when China has increased its pressure on the island, stepping up incursions into its air defence zone and taking tensions in the Taiwan Strait to a new high amid threatening talk of an invasion. The Taiwanese decision to create the semiconductor manufacturing hub in the US was seen as closely linked to military support extended by Washington to Taipei.

Taiwan is also hoping such moves will translate into greater support for its efforts in other areas, such as a presence at the World Health Organization (WHO). As part of overall efforts to increase trade and investment, Taiwan is also eyeing the possibility of opening a representative office in Mumbai because of the potential for investments and manufacturing in Maharashtra and Gujarat.

India and Taiwan established representative offices in each other’s capitals in 1995. A second Taipei Economic and Cultural Center was established in Chennai in 2012.

As with most contacts with Taiwan, the Indian side has been proceeding cautiously, largely because of the tensions with China over the military standoff in Ladakh sector of the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

However, India’s rapidly growing need for semiconductors – expected to be around $100 billion by 2025, up from the current level of $2 billion – is the main reason for the government’s push in the field. On Wednesday, the Union cabinet approved a production-linked incentive scheme with an outlay of ₹76,000 crore ($10 billion) for development of a semiconductor and display manufacturing ecosystem.

The government has also committed support of ₹2,30,000 crore ($30 billion) to position India as a global hub for electronics manufacturing, with semiconductors as the foundational block.

Sana Hashmi, Taiwan fellow at the Institute of International Relations at the National Chengchi University in Taipei, said advancing economic ties falls in the framework of the unofficial relations between India and Taiwan.

“One of the primary objectives of the Taipei Economic and Cultural Center in Delhi and the India-Taipei Association (ITA) in Taipei is to work towards strengthening commercial ties,” she said.

Hashmi said though China objects to all contacts with Taiwan, there has been an understanding that cooperation on economic and cultural issues and science and technology doesn’t violate adherence to the “One China” policy by other nations.

“Seemingly, it was fine for other countries as long as China was reaping the benefits of Taiwanese investments. Now with the growing cross-Strait tensions, Taiwan’s focus has been on pulling out investments from China and reducing its dependence. Cooperation in the semiconductor industry is one of India’s main interests vis-a-vis Taiwan,” she said.

“Several agreements are already in place between India and Taiwan. So, another agreement in the economic field doesn’t violate the ‘One China’ policy,” she added.


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Nice, It'd better to buy chips from Indian bro than from CN 💌
 

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Adventures do occur, but not punctually," writes E.M. Forster in A Passage to India. In other words, exciting things happen in India, but a little patience is required. In recent years, however, it seems events have sped up in the Asian subcontinent, and that's fueling a stock market rally.

Government reforms initiated a few years ago have finally started to pay off. The changes, plus a rebound in economic activity, have lifted India's stocks.

The MSCI India Index, which tracks mostly large companies, climbed 32.6% over the past 12 months, its best showing in four years and well ahead of the 0.9% rise in the developing country-stock index, MSCI Emerging Markets. Indian small-company stocks gained even more: 53.5% (returns are through Dec. 3).

The rally is far from over, say analysts and fund managers who invest in the country. Volatility is to be expected, of course; the new COVID-19 variant, for instance, is a risk. But many short- and long-term factors could propel growth in India for years to come. We'll explain the key drivers and point you toward good funds that offer the best exposure.

Low Rates Spark a Cyclical Rebound​

Interest rates have been falling, thanks in part to cuts geared to stimulate the pandemic-stricken economy. Short-term lending rates, currently 3.8%, are down from more than 8% in 2012. That has led to a burst of economic activity.

"After abysmal conditions over the past 10 years, real estate as a sector has begun to do well," says Peeyush Mittal, manager of Matthews India fund.

Low rates have pushed many Indian consumers, typically big savers, to invest in stocks, too. Individual-investor participation in the stock market has nearly doubled in the past 12 to 18 months, and that's also driving gains, says Mittal.

On top of that, Indian prime minister Narendra Modi has promised to spend $1.4 trillion on infrastructure, a plan that will create jobs and stimulate economic activity for the next 12 to 18 months, says Mittal.

All told, India's economy, the fifth-biggest in the world by gross domestic product, is growing fast. GDP increased more than 8% in the 2021 fiscal year (the country's fiscal year ends in March), and the World Bank projects 8.3% growth in 2022 and 7.5% in 2023.

"We believe that India is likely to be the fastest-growing major economy in the world for the next decade," says Michael Kass, manager of Baron Emerging Markets. "It is the most exciting jurisdiction globally."

A Modern India​

Modi's expansive government reforms and initiatives are a part of the excitement around India. Although they weren't always popular, and they were somewhat painful to implement, they have upended the traditional ways of doing business for the better, and that's helping to usher in a new era in the country.

"We're finally seeing a tailwind emerge in India from government reforms over the past five years," says Ajay Krishnan, a Wasatch fund manager.

India has made significant progress in increasing the availability of cheap internet, as well as broad financial services, providing access to more citizens than ever before. Those moves are happening in step with others that have created a more formal, systematized way of doing business. All told, "the digitization, financialization and formalization of India," Krishnan says, has created "a flywheel" that's moving India into the 21st century.

Indeed, India is more digitized than some developed countries. Cheap broadband is available in even remote areas of the country. Previously unconnected Indians can now get mobile phones, surf the web and use smartphone apps.

Even more important to India's digitization is Aadhaar, the government's biometric identification data system. A fingerprint or retinal scan allows access to a photo and basic personal details tied to a 12-digit identification number. The system enables anyone registered – and more than 90% of all adult citizens are – to easily open bank and mobile-phone accounts, and then to make and receive payments via smartphones.

That has been crucial to the country's financial modernization, says Krishnan. Millions of previously unbanked citizens can now participate properly in the country's economy, free of fear that their paycheck might slip through the fingers of a corrupt middleman. It has launched a real-time payment system, as well as a slew of tech start-ups, according to Krishnan. "India has made huge leaps that have gone unnoticed in the rest of the world," he says.

Finally, a new nationwide flat tax on goods and services – which has simplified a messy, complex tax code – has forced many businesses to come out of the shadows and operate legally. That's part of the formalization of business in India. Government tax receipts are up 25% year-over-year for the period ending in October, says Matthews's Mittal.

India stands to benefit from the rest of the world's efforts to be less dependent on China, too. "India is where businesses are going," says Baron's Kass. The subcontinent boasts the world's youngest population, with a median age of 31. They're highly educated and job-ready, too. "This will enhance the country's growth potential for the next four to five years," says Kass.

How to Invest in India​

Because few Indian companies trade as American depositary receipts on U.S. exchanges, and it's "virtually impossible," says Kass, for individual investors to invest in India, we favor funds. There aren't many from which to choose, but we found three standouts.

Wasatch Emerging India (WAINX, expense ratio 1.64%) is our favorite.

The fund's expense ratio is higher than we'd like, but its returns have more than made up for that. Over the past 10 years, the fund's 16.7% annualized return beat 99% of its peers, and it handily outpaced the MSCI India and MSCI India Small indexes.

Krishnan and comanager Matthew Dreith aren't afraid to look beyond the index to find good stocks, and they invest in companies of all sizes. Financial services firm Bajaj Finance and two tech consulting firms, MindTree and Larsen & Toubro Infotech, are the fund's biggest holdings.

Matthews India (MINDX, 1.15%) is another stalwart. It has lagged the MSCI India index in recent years, but don't count it out.

Comanagers Mittal and Sharat Shroff favor fast-growing firms trading at moderate prices. That has held back recent returns, because commodity-related companies – in metals and mining and in energy, for instance – have done "phenomenally well," says Mittal. "And those are companies we traditionally don't invest in."

Large companies are a source of "good ballast" for the fund when markets turn negative, says Mittal, and HDFC Bank, conglomerate Reliance Industries and tech consulting firm Infosys are top holdings.

Finally, the digital and financial modernization of India have spawned a bevy of new tech start-ups, and the pipeline for initial public offerings in India is "robust," says Krishnan. For that reason, and to cash in on the recovering economy, we like iShares MSCI India Small-Cap ETF (SMIN, 0.81%).

It holds a lot of young emerging companies, so the ride will be bumpy and is best reserved for only a small portion of your portfolio. But the potential rewards are high, too. Over the past 12 months, the fund has returned 47%.

Tap Into India's Growth​

The funds below provide exposure to a country that is modernizing for the long term.

iShares MSCI India Small-Cap ETF​

  • Symbol: SMIN
  • Expense ratio: 0.81%
  • 1-year return: 47.0%
  • 3-year return: 17.4%

Matthews India​

  • Symbol: MINDX
  • Expense ration: 1.15%
  • 1-year return: 25.3%
  • 3-year return: 11.0%

Wasatch Emerging India​

  • Symbol: WAINX
  • Expense ratio: 1.64%
  • 1-year return: 44.8%
  • 3-year return: 23.0%
As of December 3, 2021. SOURCE: Morningstar Direct
 

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@Indos , while some girly girls blabber/gossip about which per capita has surpassed whom in neighbourhood...
do any of their countries have even 1 unicorn?



Surely if they are in range in per capita terms anywhere close to India (in reality) they would have say at least 1/10th number here (i.e simple population ratio factor)?


I mean one of their govts has to rely (and even celebrate) on 3 billion "bailouts" from KSA* because it has zilch of an economy given it cant save/invest in basic way.

The other one has figured out these basics (and doing better as result...read link I give near bottom) but gets caught lieing and inflating its important numbers:


It would be like if IMF one day found Indonesian govt lied about 25 billion dollars of its ~ 150 forex reserves.
What would coverage/debate be like within Indonesia?

So how much difference is there between frying pan and fire?
These are all reasons for their vastly low participation in any economic sector of tomorrow in the end.

Otherwise we would see 1 - 2 unicorns surely?...forget 5 or 6 to be somewhere in range of 1:1 with population ratio of India.

If they are zero, how credible and meaningful are any "GDP per capita" numbers from such countries?

In end its same reason as to why they look a certain way from space compared to India as well (vetted light output, energy use to economic output)

Bypass the govt numbers (govts who's bonds are still junk rating in both cases), you have more core reality to look at.


When they open their minds and are objective, they realise the issue and bring it to attention:

i.e The kind of Pakistani that would get tarred as Indian and banned in that "forum" place, as truth is painful and must be ignored or rejected.

Do you think echo chamber complex is healthy for dynamic economic performance?

They spend all that time talking nonsense back and forth they understand nothing about (while shutting out over time people that actually know anything about it, since it interferes with their sensitive girly gossip soap opera with all hallmarks of the spurned female that have new "iron" boyfriend/pimp gang)....thats the funniest part.

Imagine being stuck at 20 billion dollar total savings for 20 years: https://defencehub.live/threads/pakistan-economy-updates.3862/page-5#post-148315

....and doing everything possible to not fix that instead....because girly soap opera is more fun for such an echo chamber.

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*I would like to know if you have ascertained any opinion from any of the "better" members there about why KSA fronted the 3 billion (at pretty high cost/guarantee) instead of PRC their vaunted + above criticism...... iron - master friend

...and if you have any explanation for KSA doing so instead of PRC iron-boyfriend? (Surely 3 billion is chump change for PRC?)

BTW Indonesia unicorn and Vietnam unicorn (and ASEAN in general) have good start so far and are looking quite dynamic....esp as PRC clamps down on lot of its tech sectors.
 

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This one can be opened easily without the need to pay for subscription


While this Al-Jazeera shows discontent :p

AJ HQ is SEA is in Malaysia and the reporter is Malaysian or Singaporean Muslim by name

 

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India's real GDP likely to maintain 9% growth rate in FY22, FY23: Report
By Press Trust of India | Mumbai | Last Updated at December 29 2021 01:26 IST




The country's real gross domestic product (GDP) is likely to maintain a 9 pc growth rate in fiscal 2022 and 2023, amid concerns over the Omicron variant of COVID-19, says a report.

The Indian economy grew at 8.4 per cent in the second quarter of the current fiscal, as against a growth of 20.1 per cent in the April-June quarter.

"We are maintaining our forecast of a 9 per cent GDP expansion in FY2022, with a clear K-shaped divergence amongst the formal and informal parts of the economy, and the large gaining at the cost of the small.


"Looking ahead, we expect the economy to maintain a similar 9 per cent growth in FY2023," domestic rating agency Icra Ltd Chief Economist Aditi Nayar said in the report.

She expects the percentage of double-vaccinated adults to rise to 85-90 per cent by March 2022.

While the announcement of booster doses and vaccines for the 15-18 age group is welcome, it remains to be seen whether all the existing vaccines would offer adequate protection against the new Omicron variant to avert a third wave in India, Nayar said.

In any case, fresh restrictions being introduced by several states to curb the spread of COVID-19 may temporarily interrupt the economic recovery, especially in the contact-intensive sectors in Q4 FY2022, she added.

Nayar, however, expects the expansion in FY2023 to be more meaningful and tangible than the base effect-led rise in FY2022.

"Based on our assumptions of the GDP growth, if the COVID-19 pandemic had not emerged vs. the actual shrinkage that occurred in FY2021 and the expected recovery in the next two years, the net loss to the Indian economy from the pandemic during FY2021-23 is estimated at Rs 39.3 lakh crore, in real terms," she said.

The available data for Q3 FY2022 does not offer convincing evidence that the Monetary Policy Committee's (MPC's) criteria of a durable and sustainable growth recovery has been met, to confirm a change in the Monetary Policy stance to neutral in February 2022, the rating agency said.

It believes that rising consumption will push capacity utilisation above the crucial threshold of 75 per cent by the end of 2022, which should then trigger a broad-based pick-up in private sector investment activity in 2023.

The agency also expects the visibility of tax revenue growth to spur faster government spending in 2022.


 

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For a country of the size and state of India, 9% growth is nothing special.
 

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For a country of the size and state of India, 9% growth is nothing special.
9% real gdp growth indeed special nominal growth is 15%
India will grow at double digits for next 8-9 years,4 lakh crore additional revenue per annum and increasing, bank NPA at minimum, grand expressway infra network, flood of pli schemes, huge industry and infra push, 640 billion plus forex. All indicate that this decade by 2025 we will be 5 trillion economy and by 2030 8 trillion economy at current exchange rate. we are witnessing golden decade of india.

If rupee appreciate then we will be much bigger in dollars terms.
 

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I really wish Gadkari remain minister of Roads for next 10 years , he himself will contribute in over all GDP
Gadkari's portfolio won't change but I think but 10 years is too much
 

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@Nilgiri or other Indian members, can you open the news and posted here, Indian company is one of the investor, we also can discuss whether this will be a good investment for Indian company


Yeah I had a read of it. (y)

GMR is very reputable company, they have done quite well in Delhi airport operations for example.

They are branching out to south east asia and I think Indonesia and philippines are especially ripe to expand and improve airports as they are archipelago nations etc

Indonesia I know wants to strategically develop new areas outside of Java so I think Medan (North Sumatra) area is going to see more growth soon, so the airport serving the area will be worthy investment partnership for sure.

North Sumatra in general is very strategic location, so I think it will serve Indonesia well to hedge and spread more economic weight here for sure.

There is lot of industry (esp new clean + green), services and tourism to expand here. I think lake Toba eco-tourism itself can be immensely expanded as just one example. It will help with nature conversation in area too to expand this way...rather than over-industrialise in other aspects.

Lot of Indonesia coastline in this area is untapped still as well.

BTW North in Bahasa (Utara as in Sumatra Utara ) is same sanskrit we use in India for North (Uttara like in Uttar Pradesh).
 

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9% real gdp growth indeed special nominal growth is 15%
India will grow at double digits for next 8-9 years,4 lakh crore additional revenue per annum and increasing, bank NPA at minimum, grand expressway infra network, flood of pli schemes, huge industry and infra push, 640 billion plus forex. All indicate that this decade by 2025 we will be 5 trillion economy and by 2030 8 trillion economy at current exchange rate. we are witnessing golden decade of india.

If rupee appreciate then we will be much bigger in dollars terms.

Its not special because its long overdue....compounded by what covid cost us big time.

Too much latent heat with little place to go that will finally dissipate better and be channeled to sustain more.

The march in market cap to 4 trillion USD (i.e exceeding GDP) is a big indicator of the animal spirits being held back....that must be leveraged.
 

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