TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Brave Janissary]

Looks like Siper B1 will be equal to Samp-t. Due to 100 km range of arabel x band radar on samp-t Aster-30 only have 100 km effective range on samp-t. But looks like in the sea based platforms missile can reach 120 km with his kinematically and guidance help of better mid course guidance capablity on kronos and herakles.

But still important to sea fire-500, kronos and herakles fire control radar range for ignoring real effective range of this missile I think.

 

[Combat-Master]

Anadolu Isuzu Seyit 8x8 perfect choice for Atmaca and Hisar family launcher:

It can even take the 8x8 self-propelled howitzer project. For Example Japanese Man 8x8 Howitzer

It is already used in the army as a partially protected mine-protected rescue vehicle.

Aselsan even exhibited its EIRS radar on this vehicle. For this reason, it would be more logical to continue with a single vehicle in terms of standardization.

Problems occur when you want to integrate a missile system that can go beyond 180km our "Allies" impose restrictions. We need a truck to which most of the components are produced in Turkey, that includes the powerpack

 

[Altay_TR]

Problems occur when you want to integrate a missile system that can go beyond 180km our "Allies" impose restrictions. We need a truck to which most of the components are produced in Turkey, that includes the powerpack

Anadolu Isuzu officials I spoke to at IDEF'21 stated that such a problem would not be encountered.

 

[Combat-Master]

Anadolu Isuzu officials I spoke to at IDEF'21 stated that such a problem would not be encountered.

If that were the actual case, we wouldn't have started using Belarusian trucks for BORA Ballistic Missiles... Or Russian KAMAZ trucks for developmental tests..

 

[Nutuk]

Did BMC not start to use own engines?

 

[Merzifonlu]

Did BMC not start to use own engines?

According to İbrahim Sünnetçi, BMC failed in 400 HP diesel. So BMC just stumbled on the first rung of the ladder. It's very frustrating.

 

[Abdelaziz]

According to İbrahim Sünnetçi, BMC failed in 400 HP diesel. So BMC just stumbled on the first rung of the ladder. It's very frustrating.

Where did he say that ?

 

[TheInsider]

TAF will buy 7 Atmaca coastal defense missile batteries from Roketsan. Each battery will have 3 launch vehicles with 4 missiles each which means 12 ready-to-fire missiles per battery and 84 total ready-to-fire missiles. I expect an order of 168 missiles(84+84 for reload) plus several training missiles.

Total Atmaca-based (ship, coastal, and land) missile orders will most likely exceed a thousand in the long run.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

TAF will buy 7 Atmaca coastal defense missile batteries from Roketsan. Each battery will have 3 launch vehicles with 4 missiles each which means 12 ready-to-fire missiles per battery and 84 total ready-to-fire missiles. I expect an order of 168 missiles(84+84 for reload) plus several training missiles.

Total Atmaca-based (ship, coastal, and land) missile orders will most likely exceed a thousand in the long run.

Nice , Now i want to know something ?
If the war break out and Navy Atmacas are fired , Can Navy take land based Atmacas and integrate to warships or navy atmacas should produces from scratch?? And if missile itself dont work than can navy place the atmaca truck in helipad warships and fire them ?

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543947846977822723

Translation; Additional order of 7 Coastal Defense Batteries by Turkish Armed Forces.

Note, these additional orders also indicate the rise on the demand of KTJ-3200, which is to be used on Atmaca, SOM, SOM-J. Not KTJ-3700 which is to be deployed on KARA-ATMACA.

ATMACA is not the only missile to be used on coastal defences, CAKIR missile will also be used for similar duties on highly mobile (4x4, 6x6, Tracked) platforms. There also will be coastal defense systems placed in-land fixed locations which is so far excluded from the order of 7 batteries.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Where did he say that ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543202848464330753

 

[TheInsider]

Atmaca coastal is the same Atmaca missile with an IIR seeker so I don't think there will be any problems when using those on navy ships.

BTW Atmaca coastal batteries will be supported by Çakır coastal batteries.

 

[Nutuk]

OK, how about Tümosan engines?

 

[Merzifonlu]

OK, how about Tümosan engines?

I don't know about that right now. However, one of my cousins is a senior testing officer at FNSS, and I will ask him about this if I meet him during the Eid-al-Adha holiday. Because as far as I know, FNSS would use a Tümosan engine in a solution.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

According to the information given by @Defence Turkey, 7 battery Atmaca-IIR coastal defense batteries will be used together with Çakır coastal defense batteries. Like Hisar and Siper air defense systems, Turkiye shapes its coastal strike concept with the layered missiles

Çakir coastal defence launcher

Atmaca coastal defence launcher

 

[Anmdt]

According to the information given by @Defence Turkey, 7 battery Atmaca-IIR coastal defense batteries will be used together with Çakır coastal defense batteries. Like Hisar and Siper air defense systems, Turkiye shapes its coastal strike concept with the layered missiles

Çakir coastal defence launcher
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Atmaca coastal defence launcher
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Possibly we will see & hear about either UMTAS-NLOS or KUZGUN-KY from smaller vehicles like KAPLAN-STA (Sipahi of Land forces in TN) or PARS-STA as the most-inner layer.

 

[Ahmad]

In terms of quality and combat use which one is best HIMARS or TRG-300 ?

 

[Siper>MMU]

HIMARS has a more mobile and durable truck. TRG-300 truck is softer, which will need an entrenchment point.

And the capacity of HIMARS is 6 guided rockets compared to TRG-300s capacity of 4.

TRG-300 has a longer range of 120km compared to 83km range of HIMARS M31 rocket. Also TRG-300 has 180kg or 105kg warhead compared to 90kg of M31.

HIMARS is between TRG-230 and TRG-300

 

[Radonsider]

Where did he say that ?

He said that he heard from someone else and that guy said that it is a rumour

 

[Era_shield]

In terms of quality and combat use which one is best HIMARS or TRG-300 ?

These are in different classes. HIMARS mainly fires 227mm rockets. Should compare to TRG-230 instead.