Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[bisbis]

slayer, are you the avcı in defenceturk?

 

[bisbis]

Russian federation must collapse, for the sake of humanity! These guys killed 100 million innocent people in history.

Of course, let Russia collapse, let the USA, England and Israel unite and collapse China easily. What do you think this imperialist power, which will remain unrivaled, will do to the Turkish race and the Muslim people? Have you ever thought? I'm sure they have some very nice fantasies. Brother, even the European Union does not want Russia to disappear due to the fear of the USA and England, due to the balance policy.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1574761731204808705

 

[Gary]

Yeah u could see Russian conscript training as posted by jack. Now watch Ukraine's and decide for yourself.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575181552170201088

 

[bisbis]

Zelensky is just trying to defend his country. I will almost vomit when I see people trying to rationalize what Russia is doing, especially if they are from a "Turkic" state.

Definitely, Zelensky is a hero who defends his christian country as a jew. What can I say, you ate the bait on the fishing line.

What did Necip Fazıl Kısakürek say, we have to see the white hair in the white milk!

 

[Nykyus]

Ukraine has always given trouble to tyrants. Here is Mikhail Chernigov in front of Batu, refused to bow to the sacred relics of the Mongols, for which he was killed.
During the Civil War, a popular leader in Ukraine was the anarchist Nestor Makhno. In the east of Ukraine, Makhno was more popular than Petliura, the founder of Ukrainian statehood in 1918.

 

[UkroTurk]

$1.1 Billion in Additional Security Assistance for Ukraine

The Defense Department announced approximately $1.1 billion in additional security assistance for Ukraine under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative.

www.defense.gov

This announcement represents the beginning of a contracting process to provide additional priority capabilities to Ukraine in the mid- and long-term.

Capabilities include:

• 18 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and associated ammunition;
• 150 Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
• 150 Tactical Vehicles to tow weapons;
• 40 trucks and 80 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
• Two radars for Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• 20 multi-mission radars;
• Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems;
• Tactical secure communications systems, surveillance systems, and optics;
• Explosive ordnance disposal equipment;
• Body armor and other field equipment;
• Funding for training, maintenance, and sustainment.

 

[Era_shield]

Russia doesnt have the capability to send divers down to 70m+ and plant explosives?? really? Just because they dont have the skills for construction of a major underwater pipeline on their own? We are talking about the destruction not construction, much easier to blow up a pipe line than build one.

And as for saying there is no reason for Russia to do it, If they were already decided on shutting off the pipeline, which they have already been doing, couldn't it be possible that destroying it and having finger pointing at the USA etc would suit their purposes and seem a good way to sow confusion and discord amongst the european nations and the USA? Surely this is one of their primary aims at the moment. And remember this is Putin we are talking about, who has already showed how irrational he is.

Why on earth would the USA risk such a secret operation let alone keep it from all of their allies? Surprises me sometimes how people interpret events like these.

Ukraine has a motive, Russia has a motive, i don't see any other country having a reason for doing so. USA wont even let the Ukrainians use weapons they supplied to be used to target troops in Russian lands, for fear of escalating things, and yet now they are going to send a strike team to destroy Russian and European infrastructure? Really?

A key point, is how little protesting we have heard from the Russian side about the destroyed pipelines, they hardly appear outraged by it do they?

Bombing pipelines for Russian gas that are already switched off is hardly gonna "sow discord" among the West. The only reason to do this is to prevent Germany from taking Russian gas when winter hits in December and they get really desperate.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575199410014679042

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575206063410130945

 

[Ryder]

The Russian Federation is ready for Nuclear War.

 

[Xenon54]

as well as the rest of the world.

Naah, seeing how russian weapons perform lately im not so scared of their nukes anymore.
I would be suprised if they have enough nukes combat ready for saturation attack to begin with.
And those that are will rather hit moscow than washington judging by russian precision.

 

[Era_shield]

The Russian Federation is ready for Nuclear War.

The Russian Federation isn't even ready for Incursion into Small, Weak Neighbour War.

 

[Ryder]

The Russian Federation isn't even ready for Incursion into Small, Weak Neighbour War.

So called superpower.

Russian federation is just centuries of gross incompetence.

Continuing with the Soviet and Tsarist days albeit even much worse.

At least the Tsars and Soviets were feared.

 

[Era_shield]

This article makes a pretty good argument that Ukraine is most likely to have sabotaged the Nordstream pipelines. I didn't think they had the ability to but apparently they do:

Who Sabotaged the Nord Stream Pipelines?​

28 September 2022 3:17 PM




On Monday, the two Nord Stream pipelines connecting Russia and Germany sustained “unprecedented” damage in what look like deliberate acts of sabotage. The pipeline operator, Nord Stream AG, has said “it is not possible to estimate a timeframe for restoring the gas transport infrastructure”. And it may take another week before the pipelines can be inspected.
The question on everyone’s mind, of course, is whodunnit? There are four prime suspects: Russia, the U.S., Poland and Ukraine. Let’s consider each one in turn.
Russia is arguably the least likely suspect, given that the two pipelines were its main source of leverage over Europe. Indeed, Russia had previously given Europe an ultimatum: drop the sanctions and we’ll turn the gas back on. Europe initially refused, but there was always the possibility this would change. Russia was hoping that the ongoing energy crisis would eventually force Europe to give in.
Yet Russia’s ultimatum is now dead in the water, if you’ll excuse the pun.
The Nord Stream pipelines were more valuable than Russia’s other pipelines into Europe, as they didn’t incur transit fees to other countries. And as many people have been asking, why would Russia sabotage them when it could just keep them switched off?
However, there are a couple of theories that do lay the blame on Russia.
Sabotaging the pipelines might have been a way for Russia to signal: “We have the capability to blow up undersea pipelines, so Norway better watch out.” But did anyone doubt that Russia has this capability? And if it was the Russians, wouldn’t they have given us some kind of hint, while maintaining plausible deniability? (Like when they claim such-and-such “fell out of a window”.)
Alternatively, it could have been a false flag attack, or a desperate attempt to drive up gas prices. But again, these theories seem unlikely for the simple reason that having leverage over Europe is much more useful to Russia.
Another obvious suspect is Uncle Sam. As I noted in a previous article for the Daily Sceptic, the U.S. has been trying to sabotage Nord Stream 2 for years (via sanctions and other threats, not demolition). And this may have been one major reason why they got involved in Ukraine in the first place.
There’s some circumstantial evidence that America was behind the sabotage.
At a press conference on February 7th, Biden stated, “If Russia invades … there will be no longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” He was then asked by a reporter how he could be so sure, given that the project is under Germany’s control. And he replied, “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”
And yesterday, a Polish MEP – who happens to be the husband of notorious Russia hawk Anne Applebaum – tweeted: “Thank you, USA” next to a picture of the gas leak. However, he subsequently backtracked, claiming that someone (tagging the Russian government) “did a special maintenance operation”.
There’s also evidence that the U.S. Navy was recently active in the area where the sabotage took place. Make of that what you will.
Now, readers will be aware that I’m generally sceptical of U.S. foreign policy. But if I had to put my money on it, I’d say this wasn’t the Americans. I could be wrong, of course. But it just doesn’t seem like their style.
Which brings me to suspect number three: Poland.
Like the U.S., Poland has long been opposed to Nord Stream 2 – though for slightly different reasons. Nord Stream 2 would circumvent the Yamal pipeline that runs through Poland, denying the Poles lucrative transit fees. And for understandable historical reasons, the Polish tend to be wary of Russo-German cooperation.
Since Russia’s invasion began, Poland has been one of the most hawkish countries in Europe, having given a higher percentage of its GDP in aid than everyone else besides Latvia and Estonia. It was also at the forefront of efforts to get EU sanctions on Russian energy. Meanwhile, Poland has been demanding war reparations from the Germans.
Just yesterday, the country completed its own pipeline from Norway (though this is may not have much impact on prices, as almost all Norwegian gas already goes to Europe). And back in August, the Polish president actually called for a “complete dismantling” of Nord Stream 2.
On the other hand, Poland is getting hit just as hard by the energy crisis as the rest of Europe. In August, the country recorded an inflation rate of 16.1% – above the European average, and even higher than Russia. This militates against the theory that Poland was behind the sabotage.
The fourth and final suspect is Ukraine.
The Ukrainians opposed Nord Stream 2 for exactly the same reason as the Poles: it would circumvent the pipelines running through their country, denying them billions in transit fees. And if the pipeline had come to fruition, Ukraine would have lost influence with the EU – since its own pipelines would be obsolete.
Of course, Ukraine had an even stronger motive to sabotage the pipelines: preventing Europe from giving in to Russia’s ultimatum. Now that both pipelines are unusable, Europe has much less incentive to drop the sanctions against Russia, or to stop providing arms to Ukraine.
There’s also the fact that Russia has been attacking Ukraine’s infrastructure. So why not retaliate against Russia’s infrastructure? According to people who know more about such things than me, blowing up the pipelines was well within Ukraine’s capabilities. (The country received underwater drones from the UK back in August.)
Another reason why Ukraine may be the culprit is as follows. The Nord Stream pipelines are jointly owned by Russia and Germany. So if the U.S. or Poland sabotaged them, it means the West has directly attacked Russia. And if Russia sabotaged them, it means Russia has directly attacked NATO. I’m not sure either side is bold enough for that.
Ukraine, by contrast, is already at war with Russia. So from their point of view, sabotaging the pipelines is much less risky.
I don’t know who attacked the pipelines, and nor does anyone else. But if I had to guess: I’d say there’s a 10% chance it was Russia, a 20% chance it was America, a 30% chance it was Poland, and a 40% chance it was Ukraine.

 

[Ryder]

This article makes a pretty good argument that Ukraine is most likely to have sabotaged the Nordstream pipelines. I didn't think they had the ability to but apparently they do:

Who Sabotaged the Nord Stream Pipelines?​

28 September 2022 3:17 PM




On Monday, the two Nord Stream pipelines connecting Russia and Germany sustained “unprecedented” damage in what look like deliberate acts of sabotage. The pipeline operator, Nord Stream AG, has said “it is not possible to estimate a timeframe for restoring the gas transport infrastructure”. And it may take another week before the pipelines can be inspected.
The question on everyone’s mind, of course, is whodunnit? There are four prime suspects: Russia, the U.S., Poland and Ukraine. Let’s consider each one in turn.
Russia is arguably the least likely suspect, given that the two pipelines were its main source of leverage over Europe. Indeed, Russia had previously given Europe an ultimatum: drop the sanctions and we’ll turn the gas back on. Europe initially refused, but there was always the possibility this would change. Russia was hoping that the ongoing energy crisis would eventually force Europe to give in.
Yet Russia’s ultimatum is now dead in the water, if you’ll excuse the pun.
The Nord Stream pipelines were more valuable than Russia’s other pipelines into Europe, as they didn’t incur transit fees to other countries. And as many people have been asking, why would Russia sabotage them when it could just keep them switched off?
However, there are a couple of theories that do lay the blame on Russia.
Sabotaging the pipelines might have been a way for Russia to signal: “We have the capability to blow up undersea pipelines, so Norway better watch out.” But did anyone doubt that Russia has this capability? And if it was the Russians, wouldn’t they have given us some kind of hint, while maintaining plausible deniability? (Like when they claim such-and-such “fell out of a window”.)
Alternatively, it could have been a false flag attack, or a desperate attempt to drive up gas prices. But again, these theories seem unlikely for the simple reason that having leverage over Europe is much more useful to Russia.
Another obvious suspect is Uncle Sam. As I noted in a previous article for the Daily Sceptic, the U.S. has been trying to sabotage Nord Stream 2 for years (via sanctions and other threats, not demolition). And this may have been one major reason why they got involved in Ukraine in the first place.
There’s some circumstantial evidence that America was behind the sabotage.
At a press conference on February 7th, Biden stated, “If Russia invades … there will be no longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” He was then asked by a reporter how he could be so sure, given that the project is under Germany’s control. And he replied, “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”
And yesterday, a Polish MEP – who happens to be the husband of notorious Russia hawk Anne Applebaum – tweeted: “Thank you, USA” next to a picture of the gas leak. However, he subsequently backtracked, claiming that someone (tagging the Russian government) “did a special maintenance operation”.
There’s also evidence that the U.S. Navy was recently active in the area where the sabotage took place. Make of that what you will.
Now, readers will be aware that I’m generally sceptical of U.S. foreign policy. But if I had to put my money on it, I’d say this wasn’t the Americans. I could be wrong, of course. But it just doesn’t seem like their style.
Which brings me to suspect number three: Poland.
Like the U.S., Poland has long been opposed to Nord Stream 2 – though for slightly different reasons. Nord Stream 2 would circumvent the Yamal pipeline that runs through Poland, denying the Poles lucrative transit fees. And for understandable historical reasons, the Polish tend to be wary of Russo-German cooperation.
Since Russia’s invasion began, Poland has been one of the most hawkish countries in Europe, having given a higher percentage of its GDP in aid than everyone else besides Latvia and Estonia. It was also at the forefront of efforts to get EU sanctions on Russian energy. Meanwhile, Poland has been demanding war reparations from the Germans.
Just yesterday, the country completed its own pipeline from Norway (though this is may not have much impact on prices, as almost all Norwegian gas already goes to Europe). And back in August, the Polish president actually called for a “complete dismantling” of Nord Stream 2.
On the other hand, Poland is getting hit just as hard by the energy crisis as the rest of Europe. In August, the country recorded an inflation rate of 16.1% – above the European average, and even higher than Russia. This militates against the theory that Poland was behind the sabotage.
The fourth and final suspect is Ukraine.
The Ukrainians opposed Nord Stream 2 for exactly the same reason as the Poles: it would circumvent the pipelines running through their country, denying them billions in transit fees. And if the pipeline had come to fruition, Ukraine would have lost influence with the EU – since its own pipelines would be obsolete.
Of course, Ukraine had an even stronger motive to sabotage the pipelines: preventing Europe from giving in to Russia’s ultimatum. Now that both pipelines are unusable, Europe has much less incentive to drop the sanctions against Russia, or to stop providing arms to Ukraine.
There’s also the fact that Russia has been attacking Ukraine’s infrastructure. So why not retaliate against Russia’s infrastructure? According to people who know more about such things than me, blowing up the pipelines was well within Ukraine’s capabilities. (The country received underwater drones from the UK back in August.)
Another reason why Ukraine may be the culprit is as follows. The Nord Stream pipelines are jointly owned by Russia and Germany. So if the U.S. or Poland sabotaged them, it means the West has directly attacked Russia. And if Russia sabotaged them, it means Russia has directly attacked NATO. I’m not sure either side is bold enough for that.
Ukraine, by contrast, is already at war with Russia. So from their point of view, sabotaging the pipelines is much less risky.
I don’t know who attacked the pipelines, and nor does anyone else. But if I had to guess: I’d say there’s a 10% chance it was Russia, a 20% chance it was America, a 30% chance it was Poland, and a 40% chance it was Ukraine.

Does Ukraine have its own frogmen?

Most likely they do.

 

[Era_shield]

Does Ukraine have its own frogmen?

Most likely they do.

I thought the pipes were quite deep but apparently they're just 50-70m down, so you don't even need frogmen you can use mines or bombs. Even non-military divers can go that deep.

 

[blackjack]

Ukro propaganda department shot a film, where the claimed DRG reached the outskirts of Energodar. That would mean a successful river crossing, and cover the several landing attempts disasters that happened to them.

So what they did, was just faking the city limits sign, and a whole scene

As some people are not chickens, and can think&analyze - it turns out very quickly that the sign is made in Russian, while nobody changed them yet, and all the markings are in Ukrainian there - that applies the "E" letter that is different.

 

[Ryder]

If Russia lays waste to Istanbul.

Gives a good reason for the Turks to glass both Moscow and St Petersburg.

 

[Deliorman]

Please someone ban this Russian bot/troll...

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Please someone ban this Russian bot/troll...

As far as I can see, he hasn't done anything to get banned.
Maybe a warning not to post so many links in one go, but still he hasn't broken any rules.