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İstanbul needs more empty spaces so giving Atatürk port to someone is bad idea .

Atatürk airport must be emergency meeting point in the earthquake .

They could find another place for aviation factory.
 

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But but the HDP isnt part of the alliance, looool
I really wanna see those ppl now

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The Green Left Party announced that it has decided to officially support Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, the Labor and Freedom Alliance, which includes HDP and TİP
İ vote for CHP and my vote won't go for HDP candidates. Just HDP supporters don't support Erdoğan.

BTW i vote for CHP because i am fed up with corruption...
 

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Using Atatürk Airport as aviation research center is really a bad idea. Test flights will affect civillian air traffic badly and leads to chaos. No company will want that(they can't schedule any test flight freely and cause too much headache) and this will probably change after elections.
 

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HDP is not part of the alliance unlike HÜDAPAR which enters the elections in AKP lists.
That’s another thing. No one seems to want to talk about HUDAPAR.

This guy is basically talking about changing the constitution. He has issues with our flag saying it’s Turkiye flag not Turkish flag. He says the flag doesn’t represent other ethnicities like the Kurds. He has problems with the Turkish people pretty much.


Can you imagine what kind of conspiracy theories you would of come up with if it was Bay Kemal in this picture @Lool 🤣
 

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That’s another thing. No one seems to want to talk about HUDAPAR.

This guy is basically talking about changing the constitution. He has issues with our flag saying it’s Turkiye flag not Turkish flag. He says the flag doesn’t represent other ethnicities like the Kurds. He has problems with the Turkish people pretty much.


Can you imagine what kind of conspiracy theories you would of come up with if it was Bay Kemal in this picture @Lool 🤣
It isnt conspiracies
HUDA PAR has a small electorate and wont be able to influence the AKP or MHP post elections period! The AKP wont mess with their 35% electoral base for the 1% HUDA PAR base
On the other hand, the CHP cant even lose the HDP! Post elections, the HDP will be the kingmaker in keeping the CHP alive.... The CHP with 26% electoral base cant afford to lose the 12% electoral base of the HDP since it will mean life and death for them

It isnt conspiracy; it is just simple maths and history.... thats all
 

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Haluk Bayraktar polemeği sürdürecek bir açıklama yaptı:


Mr Kemal, if we really had any value in your eyes, you would have stood up to your deputies, mayors and some of your alliance partners when they accused our domestic and national UCAVs, which put an end to terrorism against our people, of being "killers" and you would have said a single word that this allegation is not true in any way.

But you did not!

Moreover, now you claim that we are "politicised" when we express our concerns about the future of our country and our youth, even though we do not mention politics in a single word.

We are busy fighting for millions of young people to have a bright future, but you are doing the real politics through the festival area on the opening day of #TEKNOFEST, where we and millions of young people flocked.

We have only one "politics" Mr Kemal; "National Technology Move" and accordingly "Fully Independent Turkiye". Because of these efforts, we have received and still receive threatening messages from terrorists, the PKK and their political extensions, not messages of support.

Remember that Turkish companies and Turkish youth are now doing the best in the world in many fields, and do not look for companies that will develop technology far away, Mr Kemal! In order to see them, it is enough to take a close and careful look around you!

Remember; TEKNOFEST is the conscience of this nation.

We have defended our goals relentlessly until now, and we will continue to both defend and fight for them from now on...

Our history is full of examples of people who have been stubborn with both the conscience and the interests of this country and the people, and now none of these people's names are remembered...

But Vecihi Hürkuş and Nuri Demirağ are still in our hearts...
 

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Mithat Sancar, co-chairman of HDP: 'Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu and we share the same goals'. How many of the HDP's demands does Kılıçdaroğlu share? Please answer sincerely. HDP is a party that has openly declared its demands. I don't think I need to write them one by one here.
 

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I think 20+year was enough.As someone living in this country, I can not afford to endure this disgrace for a few more years.
Agreed
Erdogan needs to go
He did a lot in his tenure both good and bad and if he left after giving TFX, Hurjet, Akkuyu etc... then he would have ended it well no matter how people try to say otherwise. A country that wasnt even in the G20 with one of the worst militaries in the region became the dark horse under his tenure

However, when you rule for long time, so does the corruption spread within your party since this is the way of life. However, by no means is that a justification to put kilicdaroglu at the helm. Kilicdaroglu is way worse than the current Erdogan that much I can assure you

I know Iam not a Turk but I would prefer having the current Erdogan for 10 years more rather than having kilicdaroglu one day in office.
I would prefer Yavas to lead the helm tbh but the corruption in the CHP is so rampant that they chose the worse candidate possible
If this doesnt give you an idea of how bad the situation is within the CHP then you will never realise it
 

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Haluk Bayraktar polemeği sürdürecek bir açıklama yaptı:


Mr Kemal, if we really had any value in your eyes, you would have stood up to your deputies, mayors and some of your alliance partners when they accused our domestic and national UCAVs, which put an end to terrorism against our people, of being "killers" and you would have said a single word that this allegation is not true in any way.

But you did not!

Moreover, now you claim that we are "politicised" when we express our concerns about the future of our country and our youth, even though we do not mention politics in a single word.

We are busy fighting for millions of young people to have a bright future, but you are doing the real politics through the festival area on the opening day of #TEKNOFEST, where we and millions of young people flocked.

We have only one "politics" Mr Kemal; "National Technology Move" and accordingly "Fully Independent Turkiye". Because of these efforts, we have received and still receive threatening messages from terrorists, the PKK and their political extensions, not messages of support.

Remember that Turkish companies and Turkish youth are now doing the best in the world in many fields, and do not look for companies that will develop technology far away, Mr Kemal! In order to see them, it is enough to take a close and careful look around you!

Remember; TEKNOFEST is the conscience of this nation.

We have defended our goals relentlessly until now, and we will continue to both defend and fight for them from now on...

Our history is full of examples of people who have been stubborn with both the conscience and the interests of this country and the people, and now none of these people's names are remembered...

But Vecihi Hürkuş and Nuri Demirağ are still in our hearts...
Damn
Baykar is attacking huh.... nice! Showing some balls here
 

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Damn
Baykar is attacking huh.... nice! Showing some balls here
Selçuk has a more political character, but Haluk has the character to make bolder moves. When Baykar was still a tiny enterprise consisting of a handful of engineers and they were struggling against a weird bureaucratic corruption, he was almost arrested after a test flight for speaking out. As long as Kılıçdaroğlu deals with this polemic on the grounds of politicisation, Haluk will not be the party to end this debate.
 

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Haluk Bayraktar polemeği sürdürecek bir açıklama yaptı:


Mr Kemal, if we really had any value in your eyes, you would have stood up to your deputies, mayors and some of your alliance partners when they accused our domestic and national UCAVs, which put an end to terrorism against our people, of being "killers" and you would have said a single word that this allegation is not true in any way.

But you did not!

Moreover, now you claim that we are "politicised" when we express our concerns about the future of our country and our youth, even though we do not mention politics in a single word.

We are busy fighting for millions of young people to have a bright future, but you are doing the real politics through the festival area on the opening day of #TEKNOFEST, where we and millions of young people flocked.

We have only one "politics" Mr Kemal; "National Technology Move" and accordingly "Fully Independent Turkiye". Because of these efforts, we have received and still receive threatening messages from terrorists, the PKK and their political extensions, not messages of support.

Remember that Turkish companies and Turkish youth are now doing the best in the world in many fields, and do not look for companies that will develop technology far away, Mr Kemal! In order to see them, it is enough to take a close and careful look around you!

Remember; TEKNOFEST is the conscience of this nation.

We have defended our goals relentlessly until now, and we will continue to both defend and fight for them from now on...

Our history is full of examples of people who have been stubborn with both the conscience and the interests of this country and the people, and now none of these people's names are remembered...

But Vecihi Hürkuş and Nuri Demirağ are still in our hearts...
They lost emotion and control. This is not a good sign. A private company CEO should not get in to confrontation in public and show their feelings. They need to stay away from politics because in a few weeks you might have to work with this government. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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They lost emotion and control. This is not a good sign. A private company CEO should not get in to confrontation in public and show their feelings. They need to stay away from politics because in a few weeks you might have to work with this government. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️
So just because he is a businessman doesnt mean he is entitled to his own thoughts and beliefs? Mate just like other ppl, Baykar is a turk and he protects what he believes in.
Politics is at the end of the day a part of the life of each and every citizen on the planet. You cant just discard it because you are a businessman

You should learn how to coexist with those you hate sure... but that doesnt mean that you whould always hide your dislike because he will be the big boss
 

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Damn
Baykar is attacking huh.... nice! Showing some balls here
By making political statements, he puts his work and the work he has done for decades in danger.What is the nice thing??Even in the USA, which has the most ridiculous free media in the world, such nonsense does not happen. Have you seen a news report that the CEO of Lockheed Martin talked to Donald Trump in this way on Twitter?Please do not defend this wrong here.
 

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Selcuk still has many shortcomings. Although I dont agree with everything they wrote in it, I have parallel idea with Der Spiegel's latest column about Selçuk in general terms. I believe that there is a segment that wants him for 2028 which they now very close to RTE. What I mean here is not the traditional dynamics of Akp.

For the same reasons, some other segments are constantly trying to drag Baykar into the political arena, or at least are making propaganda with unfounded allegations against the company. We can see these responses to such allegations as warm-up rounds.
 

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By making political statements, he puts his work and the work he has done for decades in danger.What is the nice thing??Even in the USA, which has the most ridiculous free media in the world, such nonsense does not happen. Have you seen a news report that the CEO of Lockheed Martin talked to Donald Trump in this way on Twitter?
USA is not Turkey
Lockheed Martin and Boeing are big enough to influence the state's decision regardless of who sits on top. They simply dont care since what they want will happen

Turkey on the other hand is different with Baykar being a rising star but not an economic powerhouse that if destroyed, will corrupt a major sector of the economy
 

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Selcuk still has many shortcomings. Although I dont agree with everything they wrote in it, I have parallel idea with Der Spiegel's latest column about Selçuk in general terms. I believe that there is a segment that wants him for 2028 which they now very close to RTE. What I mean here is not the traditional dynamics of Akp.

For the same reasons, some other segments are constantly trying to drag Baykar into the political arena, or at least are making propaganda with unfounded allegations against the company. We can see these responses to such allegations as warm-up rounds.
Baykar cant be a politician
Honestly, he suck at it and if he ever became one then Turkey will be screwed badly
 

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So just because he is a businessman doesnt mean he is entitled to his own thoughts and beliefs? Mate just like other ppl, Baykar is a turk and he protects what he believes in.
Politics is at the end of the day a part of the life of each and every citizen on the planet. You cant just discard it because you are a businessman

You should learn how to coexist with those you hate sure... but that doesnt mean that you whould always hide your dislike because he will be the big boss
Shqiptar all I’m saying is that it’s not good for business. He has all the rights to do or say whatever he wants. But like I said you have to think about your business. There is a 50/50 chance you might have to work with this government and you need to be smart about it, control your feelings emotions etc
 

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Mithat Sancar, co-chairman of HDP: 'Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu and we share the same goals'. How many of the HDP's demands does Kılıçdaroğlu share? Please answer sincerely. HDP is a party that has openly declared its demands. I don't think I need to write them one by one here.
Kurds live also in Türkiye , they have same problems which suffers Turks. They could also be against corruption, bad economical decisions.

On the other hand we Turks also feel lack of democracy as Kurd do.
So It doesn't mean Turkish opposition will allow separatist terrorists.

I can't understand why AKP has started demonizing HDP and PKK as they had Flirts.
 

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They lost emotion and control. This is not a good sign. A private company CEO should not get in to confrontation in public and show their feelings. They need to stay away from politics because in a few weeks you might have to work with this government. Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️
Yeah right? They are clearly targeting Baykar. But for what reason. You know better than me why... They have been attacking these people for a long time. Keeping silent is not the answer here. They will ofcourse need to defend themselves. This is not politics. They are trying to drag Baykar into this. Haluk did the necessary thing.
 

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Kurds live also in Türkiye , they have same problems which suffers Turks. They could also be against corruption, bad economical decisions.

On the other hand we Turks feel lack of democracy as Kurd do.
So It doesn't mean Turkish opposition will allow separatist terrorists.

I can't understand why AKP has started demonizing HDP and PKK
In my opinion, the problem is not the AKP's demonisation of the HDP, but the CHP's willingness to take over the task previously given to the AKP.

Also, are the HDP's demands really about the Kurds. Do I really have to translate their bulleted list into English?
 

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