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KK said clearly that you are valuable to us, do not be so politicized. What more can the man say?Are these guys stupid when Akp is constantly making propaganda that if we go, they will destroy the Bayraktars?These uav issues are an issue that 9 out of 10 people in Turkey agree on.But there are much more important issues to be resolved, such as refugee problems, hyperinflation, corruption, and law.

But hey what lets not talk about these.Let's determine our political preferences only on speculative news about Baykar issues.

Edit: I can't believe I'm defending KK here
 

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Yeah right? They are clearly targeting Baykar. But for what reason. You know better than me why... They have been attacking these people for a long time. Keeping silent is not the answer here. They will ofcourse need to defend themselves. This is not politics. They are trying to drag Baykar into this. Haluk did the necessary thing.

Bayraktar brothers have passion and emotion.

Better than a lot of corporate assholes.

Baykar brothers are Ferrari while Akp represents Fiat and Chp are Ford.

You know what Ford and Fiat represents Corporate pricks.
 

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Kilic out here talking shit whilst drawing up plans to sell the country's ass to Europe and USA.

Man needs a bullet, not a ballot.
What is this? How can you guys be normal with this?
Stupid akp cronie threatening a presidential candidate and possible future president.

what would happen if someone say the same thing for erdogan. What would be the reaction i wonder.
 

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In my opinion, the problem is not the AKP's demonisation of the HDP, but the CHP's willingness to take over the task previously given to the AKP.

Also, are the HDP's demands really about the Kurds. Do I really have to translate their bulleted list into English?
But when you vote for CHP, you don't choice HDP candidates.

Both CHP and HDP have different candidate lists.
 

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There are friends here representing all sides of political thoughts and they can discuss without personalising.

Ancak burada Alamancı diye, şu bu diye, ultra faşistlik yapacaksanız, sıçarım sizin çarkınıza! @Test7 @TR_123456
BTW i am also future Alamancı. 😃currently i am in İstanbul but i am allowed to vote at airport..

tomorrow i am going to vote to the airport. İ can share photo of my votes😎
 

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You dont have a car 🤣🤣🤣

I guess you drive fred flinstones car bahahahaha
I have a car, but this post of you only shows your level. Many people are won't able to buy proper foods ,for get about car and apartment. But this so called Turks! who have voting rights are making fun of a turk who has no car!! You are ducking so low. It is such a disgrace for us Turks that we have people like you who also call themselves turk.
 

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KK said clearly that you are valuable to us, do not be so politicized. What more can the man say?Are these guys stupid when Akp is constantly making propaganda that if we go, they will destroy the Bayraktars?These uav issues are an issue that 9 out of 10 people in Turkey agree on.But there are much more important issues to be resolved, such as refugee problems, hyperinflation, corruption, and law.

But hey what lets not talk about these.Let's determine our political preferences only on speculative news about Baykar issues.

Edit: I can't believe I'm defending KK here
We are proud of Turkish Defense industry and so what?
Can't we complain about real problems in Türkiye? I don't want Türkiye to be poor North Korea which has strong army.
 

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Check it out

İf you vote CHP , you don't send HDP's candidate to Parliament.
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It doesnt matter if the CHP promised to do what the HDP wants....

You do spread a lot of missinformation. You call out one party that is not in an alliance with the other about some promises that are just speculation and BS. Yet play down the role of another party that is in an alliance with the government party and openly asking to abolish the Turkish state as is it is right now.
 

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Was the Turkish public as politicized in the past or has it increased in recent years? Because of this I feel serious deterioration in the mental health of the people of the country.
 

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Was the Turkish public as politicized in the past or has it increased in recent years? Because of this I feel serious deterioration in the mental health of the people of the country.
We are always politicized. This has to do with the AKP's 20 years of uninterrupted rule, but also with historical and socio-cultural reasons. So much so that daily political bickering often blurs the horizon, and in partisanship people may call what was black yesterday white today. But it doesn't matter whether it is violently or more moderate, it is always a fact of Turkish nation, so we should learn to take advantage of it.

(From my pow, I believe that any ideology or approach that serves the nation-state ideal of the Turkish people and was born in us should be instrumentalized. It is not necessary nor I mean that nationalists should always be in the front. I am not as negative about polarization as one might think, because I find the contrast between the two layers more valuable)
 
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Was the Turkish public as politicized in the past or has it increased in recent years? Because of this I feel serious deterioration in the mental health of the people of the country.
You can check the antidepressant usage statistics as an indicator
 

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If the CHP is to release Apo in line with the precedent set by the ECHR, I can say that AKP had paved this way. Remember pre-2016 period. In the context of Right to hope, the Winter decision of ECHR is actually part of a series of efforts to end Apo's detention. Because for 20 years, this terrorist head has repeatedly committed crimes that violate his detention status and has not been convicted of them, despite the fact that he continueed to de facto lead the terrorist organization until isolation started and even communicates decisions to the terrorist organization to organize its political arm as well as all other city-based structurals.

In my opinion, instead of letting Yavaş talk (right hand of Kılıçdaroğlu) and pass these issues, Kılıçdaroğlu's announcement at this very point that Apo will be tried for all these crimes in last 20 years and that he will never implement the relevant ECHR decisions will take a very valuable trump card from Akp's hands and will increase at least a few points of votes in the election. Likewise, if Erdoğan wants to go beyond propaganda, he needs to give the public firm guarantees on these very issues instead of dealing with the CHP.
 

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Was the Turkish public as politicized in the past or has it increased in recent years? Because of this I feel serious deterioration in the mental health of the people of the country.

Since AK party its massively increased. They have milked divisions for a long time. Created conflict in every direction you look. Only enemies of a nation work polarise their people.

They basically created an atmosphere that only islamists were good and everyone else was the enemy except separatists like the PKK, they were good and promoted by AK party. Even APO was being promoted by AK party at one point.

When Turks finally come out of these dark shadows they will look back at these last 20 years and wonder what madness we had to endure.
 
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