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On the contrary.
Defence industry in 2022 alone brought 4.3 BILLION dollars in COLD, HARD, CASH to the economy.
We are already 12th biggest arms exporter in the world. And the growth is soaring each passing year.
Having a robust defence industry is also integral for civilian sectors as well.

Need I remind you the internet you write this drivel on came about because ARPA (nowadays called DARPA, R&D agency of the US Department of Defence) funded the project to connect the mainframes of the United States, so the engineers could collaborate easier in the pursuit of killing more commies faster?

Nebati probably burning that 4billion a month to keep the dolar somewhat stable.

Last time Berat did this, we lost 128billion dolars. We have to keep earning 4 billion dolars for the next 32 years just to recover that money and it is the result of bad economy policies.

Nebati follows the Berat's way and we don't know how much he burned yet.
 

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amount of debt we take yearly and fraction of the trade deficit which is increasing day by day.
Trade deficit is on a downward trend since the start of the year and our debt-to-GDP is in the 30 percent levels.
China is at 76%, UK is 101%, France is 112%, US is 129%, Italy is 145%!
We are performing better than you think.
we are OUT of G20.
False.
Nebati probably burning that 4billion a month to keep the dolar somewhat stable.
...to buy gold, so our currency would stand a better chance against sanctions.
 

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Trade deficit is on a downward trend since the start of the year and our debt-to-GDP is in the 30 percent levels.
China is at 76%, UK is 101%, France is 112%, US is 129%, Italy is 145%!
We are performing better than you think.

False.

...to buy gold, so our currency would stand a better chance against sanctions.
Montly trade deficit is on downward trend because we saw the all time peak trade deficit of 13.5 billion dolars (in a month) in december 2022 and january 2023. You watch a lot of A haber i guess.
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Turkey is still in G20 but we feell to 21st place for biggest economy in the world. For comparison we were 21st place in 1980.

their debts are managable while ours are not. Thats why erdo was begging saudi and bae sheiks to give money. They were his “biggest” foes couple years ago now he has to be besties with them to get money from them until the elections are over. And i wonder what he gives them in exchange.
 
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Fun fact all our advances all came from wars itself.

Dont believe in the bs that philosophy or free thinking did it.

Wars, good old capitalism and money.

Humans have been for centuries killing each other so we had to advance find ways to do it better.

Industrial revolution was born out of colonialism. Colonialism born out of wars of conquest.

British took India's wealth guess what it kickstarted the industrial revolution.
People cant buy food but ok. Thats not important enough i guess.
 

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In the programme he participated in HaberTurk, S.Soylu said that they had a voice recording and said something strange. So much so that presenter Akif Ersoy was speechless for a while. He used the following expressions: "There is an audio tape. It contains the conversations of the person concerned, who is currently making many statements, with the ambassador of the relevant country, as an official official, as an official of the party chairman. They take the outcome of the 6-party table to an EU ambassador and have redacted. Four months ago, in a private meeting with a Minister of Interior who came to Turkiye, I asked him how this happened and what the ambassador of his own country was hell up to."

Could this be what Kılıçdaroğlu and Demirtaş have been warning their voters about for the last week, saying that it is fake or should not be shared?

And, who could be the interior minister who came to Turkiye, four months ago? Who is he referring to?
 

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In the programme he participated in HaberTurk, S.Soylu said that they had a voice recording and said something strange. So much so that presenter Akif Ersoy was speechless for a while. He used the following expressions: "There is an audio tape. It contains the conversations of the person concerned, who is currently making many statements, with the ambassador of the relevant country, as an official official, as an official of the party chairman. They take the outcome of the 6-party table to an EU ambassador and have redacted. Four months ago, in a private meeting with a Minister of Interior who came to Turkiye, I asked him how this happened and what the ambassador of his own country was hell up to."

Could this be what Kılıçdaroğlu and Demirtaş have been warning their voters about for the last week, saying that it is fake or should not be shared?

And, who could be the interior minister who came to Turkiye, four months ago? Who is he referring to?
Soylu is the most afraid of them all; if it was up to him, he would risk making this country into Syria in the case of an election loss with disputing the result, risking provoking millions into rebellion; whatever tape he has, due to his stupidity he has failed to use in time, and now it's too late; most everyone has made up their minds.
 

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In the programme he participated in HaberTurk, S.Soylu said that they had a voice recording and said something strange. So much so that presenter Akif Ersoy was speechless for a while. He used the following expressions: "There is an audio tape. It contains the conversations of the person concerned, who is currently making many statements, with the ambassador of the relevant country, as an official official, as an official of the party chairman. They take the outcome of the 6-party table to an EU ambassador and have redacted. Four months ago, in a private meeting with a Minister of Interior who came to Turkiye, I asked him how this happened and what the ambassador of his own country was hell up to."

Could this be what Kılıçdaroğlu and Demirtaş have been warning their voters about for the last week, saying that it is fake or should not be shared?

And, who could be the interior minister who came to Turkiye, four months ago? Who is he referring to?

Using illegaly recorded audio tapes resembles the tactics of some organization but I can't put my finger on it.

Also probably thats the recording they mean. It could well be real or it could be fake. At this point anything can be expected and I am not sure which one is worse.( that they are creating fake tapes or using police as a blackmailing organization)
 

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In the programme he participated in HaberTurk, S.Soylu said that they had a voice recording and said something strange. So much so that presenter Akif Ersoy was speechless for a while. He used the following expressions: "There is an audio tape. It contains the conversations of the person concerned, who is currently making many statements, with the ambassador of the relevant country, as an official official, as an official of the party chairman. They take the outcome of the 6-party table to an EU ambassador and have redacted. Four months ago, in a private meeting with a Minister of Interior who came to Turkiye, I asked him how this happened and what the ambassador of his own country was hell up to."

Could this be what Kılıçdaroğlu and Demirtaş have been warning their voters about for the last week, saying that it is fake or should not be shared?

And, who could be the interior minister who came to Turkiye, four months ago? Who is he referring to?
Hm...... I just want to say something though
How did both kilicdaroglu and Demirtas knew that Soylu have something that would implicate them in the first place?
1- It may be that Soylu is actually right and the country concerned informed kilicdaroglu that they were wiretapped while making filthy deals
2- a spy within the govt informed the CHP that Soylu is preparing a fake video/audio or material to accuse the opposition of something


What is happening is exactly similar to when Kilicdaroglu stated last year that he has the "files" containjng corruption deals/allegations of all AKP personnel within the govt and gave a 10 day period grace to whoever came out and apologised to the nation, only for him to not release anything at all after 10-day period indicating his claims as bogus
 

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Recent ORC statistics have been released
Erdo's % havent improved
KK lost 1.5%
A second round in elections is more likely

RTE's statement that these are pro-LGBT people made a lot of noise in the foreign press. Even Foreign Policy op-ed writers commented on the subject. However, since they could not understand the difference in nuance, they translated it as 'They are all gay'. At the moment, there are messages of support for the Millet alliance from accounts with rainbow emoji in many parts of the world on social media. We get angry, we get nervous, there are many heated issues, but the point we have reached at the end of all campaign processes is a complete comedy to be locked in a discourse like 'they are all gay'. :D



As for the election polls you share, I think the situation is very close at the moment, although some of them show one side ahead by one or two points and some by one or two points ahead of the other side. Very fine details will determine the outcome.

Sonar Research gives results close to what you have shared, in the same way, there are also studies showing Kılıçdaroğlu in the 51-53 band.

 
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RTE's statement that these are pro-LGBT people made a lot of noise in the foreign press. Even Foreign Policy op-ed writers commented on the subject. However, since they could not understand the difference in nuance, they translated it as 'They are all gay'. At the moment, there are messages of support for the Millet alliance from accounts with rainbow emoji in many parts of the world on social media. We get angry, we get nervous, there are many heated issues, but the point we have reached at the end of all campaign processes is a complete comedy to be locked in a discourse like 'they are all gay'. :D

Well, in Turkey if you are pro-LGBT you are thought as one of them, nobody thinks a straight person also defend such basic human rights.
 

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RTE's statement that these are pro-LGBT people made a lot of noise in the foreign press. Even Foreign Policy op-ed writers commented on the subject. However, since they could not understand the difference in nuance, they translated it as 'They are all gay'. At the moment, there are messages of support for the Millet alliance from accounts with rainbow emoji in many parts of the world on social media. We get angry, we get nervous, there are many heated issues, but the point we have reached at the end of all campaign processes is a complete comedy to be locked in a discourse like 'they are all gay'. :D



As for the election polls you share, I think the situation is very close at the moment, although some of them show one side ahead by one or two points and some by one or two points ahead of the other side. Very fine details will determine the outcome.

Sonar Research gives results close to what you have shared, in the same way, there are also studies showing Kılıçdaroğlu in the 51-53 band.

Interesting analysis
 

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RTE's statement that these are pro-LGBT people made a lot of noise in the foreign press. Even Foreign Policy op-ed writers commented on the subject. However, since they could not understand the difference in nuance, they translated it as 'They are all gay'. At the moment, there are messages of support for the Millet alliance from accounts with rainbow emoji in many parts of the world on social media. We get angry, we get nervous, there are many heated issues, but the point we have reached at the end of all campaign processes is a complete comedy to be locked in a discourse like 'they are all gay'. :D



As for the election polls you share, I think the situation is very close at the moment, although some of them show one side ahead by one or two points and some by one or two points ahead of the other side. Very fine details will determine the outcome.

Sonar Research gives results close to what you have shared, in the same way, there are also studies showing Kılıçdaroğlu in the 51-53 band.

Elections became sooo heated that they are now arguing over the smallest details such as who spilled the milk😉🤣🤣
 

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Interesting analysis
Bro why you deleted previous post, lol. I agree with you, it is the plague of our time and when you say something against it, in the USA and countries like Germany, you lose your job, you lose your social status, you are subjected to social lynching, you can even lose custody of your children. Recently, because a family in Germany told their children that homosexuality is not a part of human nature according to the Islamic faith, the German state 'forcibly' took away their children in a house raid and placed them under state protection. They will probably give these children to a gay couple for parenting. The biggest unspoken taboo for western countries at the moment is homosexual fascism. Thanks to the fucking SJWs. By the way, don't misunderstand, I am not one of those who call the Millet Alliance gay. If the thing in question is homosexuality, some of Akpians are not much different from the rainbow associations that supporting Chp and Hdp right now. Anyway all are offtopic, may be we can discuss these in other thread later.
 

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In the programme he participated in HaberTurk, S.Soylu said that they had a voice recording and said something strange. So much so that presenter Akif Ersoy was speechless for a while. He used the following expressions: "There is an audio tape. It contains the conversations of the person concerned, who is currently making many statements, with the ambassador of the relevant country, as an official official, as an official of the party chairman. They take the outcome of the 6-party table to an EU ambassador and have redacted. Four months ago, in a private meeting with a Minister of Interior who came to Turkiye, I asked him how this happened and what the ambassador of his own country was hell up to."

Could this be what Kılıçdaroğlu and Demirtaş have been warning their voters about for the last week, saying that it is fake or should not be shared?

And, who could be the interior minister who came to Turkiye, four months ago? Who is he referring to?
Taking soylu serious is...
 

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I'm sharing it as a lesson to everyone.
Does The Economist want Erdogan to leave because he wants Turkey's good?
You should ask yourself this question.
 

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Anyone familiar with english-langauge press knows the financial backing, ownership and the level of analysis of the Economist compared to Bloomberg.

Also if you think western and Israeli intelligence agencies don't have trump cards to use against Erdoğan and his affiliates and their potential financial deep secrets and offshore holdings then I have a bridge to sell to you. And just like how, knowing full-well Kaan and Hürjet will be used for election propaganda purposes, they still didn't sabotage Erdoğan by sending the engines, they also don't divulge their intelligence secrets to the opposition or publish it in their media. If anything EU has been in panic mode about the refugee deal, and that has been the extent of the western reaction. Other talks of democracy and human rights in western media is just cliche liberal posturing that doesn't hurt or benefit anyone.
 
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I'm sharing it as a lesson to everyone.
Does The Economist want Erdogan to leave because he wants Turkey's good?
You should ask yourself this question.


In general , most of the westren media are against Erdogan because he is an Islamist and not part of the westren political system . If KK wins and follow the same foreign policy as Erdogan , they will label him as an enemy . The west don't care about who wins as long as he fulfil what the westren system needs .

And I disagree with the Economist , I believe that Turkey 2023 election going to be the most important political event in this decade that will shape this area for the next 20 years .
 
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