Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions

[Yasar_TR]

Can somebody smarter than me comment the poor performance of the LORA that hit Lachin bridge?!

The LORA hit the bridge, but the bridge still operational. Did they put a hand grande in that expensive equipment?! How many LORA do Azerbaycan have, how much did they pay for it and is it junk?

It is extremely difficult to destroy a bridge with a penetrating warhead. The missile has hit the bridge within it’s given CEP values. HE type warhead would have been more effective.
In all fairness, if you really want to destroy such a strategic target, why not hit it with a second or third missile? I know 1 million dollar at a time it is expensive. But you are aiming to cut off their main supply line.

 

[500]

Can somebody smarter than me comment the poor performance of the LORA that hit Lachin bridge?!

The LORA hit the bridge, but the bridge still operational. Did they put a hand grande in that expensive equipment?! How many LORA do Azerbaycan have, how much did they pay for it and is it junk?

LORA has GPS guidance hence its accuracy (CEP) is 10 m. The bridge is only 10 m wide. So even if u aim at its center its very high chance to miss or hit the edge of the bridge (thats what happened). Plus most probably it had a penetration warhead it seems so it penetrated the bridge and exploded under it.

Still despite it hit the edge i dont think tanks could pass through this bridge:

LORA should be used against large targets (20m plus), or soft targets like SAM, plane, ballistic missile which can be destroyed by blast radius from 10 m.

 

[adenl]

They should've used two for higher chance of direct hit

 

[Test7]

There are traces of air burst munition on the vehicle. Photos of the Kargu kamikaze drone were shared in Azerbaijan. These traces may be of Kargu.

 

[Yasar_TR]

LORA has GPS guidance hence its accuracy (CEP) is 10 m. The bridge is only 10 m wide. So even if u aim at its center its very high chance to miss or hit the edge of the bridge (thats what happened). Plus most probably it had a penetration warhead it seems so it penetrated the bridge and exploded under it.

Still despite it hit the edge i dont think tanks could pass through this bridge:

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LORA should be used against large targets (20m plus), or soft targets like SAM, plane, ballistic missile which can be destroyed by blast radius from 10 m.

Lora is a quasi ballistic missile. It is similar to our Bora and Russian Iskender. It has an apogee altitude of 40 to 60 km. It reaches hypersonic speeds ( 5+ Mach ) as it is diving to its target. But due to terminal velocity it probably hits target at 3+ Mach . Even with this sort of speed and with the mass it carries, it has enough kinetic energy to demolish a bridge if it could hit it in the centre. Clearly here it has missed the bridge or hit the very edge of it.

 

[500]

They should've used two for higher chance of direct hit

With 10 m CEP the chance for direct hit is quite small even with 2-3 missiles. U need at least 3 m CEP weapon (laser or EO guided).

 

[Ghost soldier]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329431503370145792

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329432377060438016

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329428533115035653

The Armenian general acknowledged the superiority of Turkish Electronic warfare technology over Russia. "The most modern Russian electronic warfare systems survived against Bayraktar TB-2 for 4 days."

 

[Fuzuli NL]

It looks like a mono culture (just one type of tree) and given they have planted a forest in unnatural straight lines i would also assume the worst that the trees are clones.

My money is on pomegranate trees.

 

[Ghost soldier]

Translation:Armenia tried to shot down civilian airliner departing from heydar Aliyev international Airport to blame it on Azerbaijan and all the attempts were ceased after the destruction of s-300 assets by Azerbaijan

 

[Blood raven]

Translation:Armenia tried to shot down civilian airliner departing from heydar Aliyev international Airport to blame it on Azerbaijan and all the attempts were ceased after the destruction of s-300 assets by Azerbaijan

The Armenians are such a peaceful people. I still wonder why they have problems with some of their neighbours.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329428533115035653

The Armenian general acknowledged the superiority of Turkish Electronic warfare technology over Russia. "The most modern Russian electronic warfare systems survived against Bayraktar TB-2 for 4 days."

It is great to hear these words from Armenian generals. We should remind them that Koral Blk-2 and Air-SOJ is also coming !

 

[Xenon54]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329428533115035653

The Armenian general acknowledged the superiority of Turkish Electronic warfare technology over Russia. "The most modern Russian electronic warfare systems survived against Bayraktar TB-2 for 4 days."

Another confirmation that Russian military hardware is simply garbage.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Another confirmation that Russian military hardware is simply garbage.

That means S400 system is crap as well!
Have we just wasted 1.3 billion dollars?
If so ; not very good! 1.3 billion for f35’s , 1.3 billion for S400!!

How ever Azerbaijan managed to stop a good number of missiles with their Air defence. Shot down a few Russian built planes.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329487380156473347

 

[Xenon54]

That means S400 system is crap as well!
Have we just wasted 1.3 billion dollars?
If so ; not very good! 1.3 billion for f35’s , 1.3 billion for S400!!

How ever Azerbaijan managed to stop a good number of missiles with their Air defence. Shot down a few Russian built planes.

Yes, and it hurts even more considering that we wont get F-35's anytime soon.

 

[BordoEnes]

That means S400 system is crap as well!
Have we just wasted 1.3 billion dollars?
If so ; not very good! 1.3 billion for f35’s , 1.3 billion for S400!!

How ever Azerbaijan managed to stop a good number of missiles with their Air defence. Shot down a few Russian built planes.

We certainly did. It was a profoundly stupid deal caused by absolutely petty reasons. We gained absolutely nothing from it aside from giving the US the finger, which doesnt do much beside some good domestic PR. The F-35 was far more valuable in that regard and the B-variant could have made our Anadolu LHD into a light aircraft carrier. Would have been real usefull in Libya...

 

[adenl]

We certainly did. It was a profoundly stupid deal caused by absolutely petty reasons. We gained absolutely nothing from it aside from giving the US the finger, which doesnt do much beside some good domestic PR. The F-35 was far more valuable in that regard and the B-variant could have made our Anadolu LHD into a light aircraft carrier. Would have been real usefull in Libya...

Some NATO members provide Russia with sophisticated military products (France). Some members get sophisticated military products from Russia (Turkey). In a normal functioning NATO, the former would get lambasted and the latter praised.

 

[Costin84]

Some NATO members provide Russia with sophisticated military products (France). Some members get sophisticated military products from Russia (Turkey). In a normal functioning NATO, the former would get lambasted and the latter praised.

France has stopped providing military related equipment to Russia after the Crimeean take over.

 

[adenl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329428533115035653

The Armenian general acknowledged the superiority of Turkish Electronic warfare technology over Russia. "The most modern Russian electronic warfare systems survived against Bayraktar TB-2 for 4 days."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329515170490617860

Pole-21: https://www.armyrecognition.com/oct..._with_russian_armed_forces_tass_11310161.html

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1329513095534931969