TR Navy Torpedo & Mine Programs

[Oublious]

With this strategic weapons we will imbalance geo politics in the world , TB2 was a preview in Libya and other countries. But when you hit a ship of a Western power it will hurt them. What the outcome will be is difficult to talk about.

 

[Anmdt]

Finally! I hope they'll start serial production soon, I wonder how much export potential Akya might have. Nonetheless, this is great news.

Now we just have to wait to hear something, anything about Orka and we'll have overcome one of our most critical shortcomings in regards to our navy.

There are things to be done with Akya, I would like to call it MkII when those are achieved and that will be far better than any torpedo available for TN to acquire.

As it is, it is enough to be in duty and almost on-par with the torpedoes in stock or offered for export by the producers.

 

[Anmdt]

Why though?

One of the most common trigger mechanisms is the magnetic field detector. Although there are others now.

 

[Anmdt]

AKYA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740132537278791926

Some would say 'they couldn't dare to hit a real sized warship, so they chose a small one for their first live-fire test'. But man, that was a show-off. Small hulls are harder to break in half, and since the draft of the ship is small, the depth of detonation is small, leaving little space for the shock wave to propagate and reflect. So the bubble around the hull after the negative pressure hit was too shallow, and yet it broke the tiny ship in half! In addition, the triggering mechanism was able to detect the presence of a small amount of steel compared to real warships.

 

[boredaf]

There are things to be done with Akya, I would like to call it MkII when those are achieved and that will be far better than any torpedo available for TN to acquire.

See, you're being a tease again I'm glad to learn they are not calling it a day after developing Akya as it is though, that is great news.

 

[Anmdt]

Some would say 'they couldn't dare to hit a real sized warship, so they chose a small one for their first live-fire test'. But man, that was a show-off. Small hulls are harder to break in half, and since the draft of the ship is small, the depth of detonation is small, leaving little space for the shock wave to propagate and reflect. So the bubble around the hull after the negative pressure hit was too shallow, and yet it broke the tiny ship in half! In addition, the triggering mechanism was able to detect the presence of a small amount of steel compared to real warships.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740613652967817305

No need translation, video explains it all.

 

[hawk21]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740613652967817305

No need translation, video explains it all.

what an absolutely lousy job blurring the CMS interfaces of the submarine.

Edit: I mean, too many of those screens are still quite clearly visible.

 

[cr33pt3d]

what an absolutely lousy job blurring the CMS interfaces of the submarine.

such an amazing achievement for the defence industry, such a proud moment, ruined by cheap ass post prod effect. that anybody can achieve with basic level video editing skills.. what a shame. compared the the ANKA 3 video, this is so unfair for the AKYA torpedo and the team behind it .

 

[uçuyorum]

So now we just need to see firing tests of Sapan and basically all weapons systems will be indigenous from now on

 

[Anmdt]

 

[what]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748640589216694550

SSB:
The world's best torpedo - 50km+ range and 45 knots

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748640589216694550

SSB:
The world's best torpedo - 50km+ range and 45 knots

Being fastest torpedo is a bold claim. DM2A4, BlackShark, F21 all have 50 knots of max speed.

 

[uçuyorum]

Being fastest torpedo is a bold claim. DM2A4, BlackShark, F21 all have 50 knots of max speed.

Spearfish is 80 knot

 

[Ripley]

Being fastest torpedo is a bold claim. DM2A4, BlackShark, F21 all have 50 knots of max speed.

Ehm.. i don’t see they claim being the fastest. Being the best, however, is relative so anyone can claim that.

 

[Bogeyman]

Being fastest torpedo is a bold claim. DM2A4, BlackShark, F21 all have 50 knots of max speed.

Maximum speed and cruising speed are different terms. If the cruising speed is 45 knots and it can still have a range of 50 km, yes, Akya may be the best torpedo. This is possible.

 

[Bogeyman]

It says "Asgari Hiz", so minimum speed is 45 kts
EDIT: It also says that System deliveries started in 2021. What does that mean exactly?

LRIP means production. Trial productions for qualification before mass production

 

[Afif]

My understanding of Torpedo technologies is primitive. Maybe @Anmdt could tell us how good Akya is comparatively with other similar systems. E.g. French F21.

 

[Tornadoss]

Ehm.. i don’t see they claim being the fastest. Being the best, however, is relative so anyone can claim that.

Yeah it seems I misread.

 

[Anmdt]

Maximum speed and cruising speed are different terms. If the cruising speed is 45 knots and it can still have a range of 50 km, yes, Akya may be the best torpedo. This is possible.

45+ knots is the maximum achievable speed, and 50 km is technically impossible at that speed. A torpedo does not need to travel at the maximum speed for the entire planned route, but can sprint in the final phase.

Wake homing sensors, following the zigzag pattern in the wake, manoeuvrability to follow the wake pattern, having a proper acoustic signature library and distinguishing decoys from actual targets are far more important than travelling at 45+ and covering 50 km. I think it is more important to have a longer fiber guidance, and longer range in total with the above listed features. Whomever supplying us a torpedo knows the acoustic and wake libraries embedded to that, as well as manoeuvrability envelope and decoy - detection algorithms available to the torpedo. What makes it best is here; we can update these libraries next year however we like, after some measurements.

My understanding of Torpedo technologies is primitive. Maybe @Anmdt could tell us how good Akya is comparatively with other similar systems. E.g. French F21.

A torpedo is a propeller, an electric motor, some batteries, a simple controller (even an arduino will do), a warhead of choice (anything that makes a boom and a bubble cavity), a buoyant cylindrical watertight body with a proper nose cone and 2 sets of rudders. What I have described above can even be made by a group of enthusiastic students, anything beyond that is what makes Akya valuable and the struggle of development to us. So a comparison is pointless, it falls within the whole picture of submarine operations and related capabilities.

It says "Asgari Hiz", so minimum speed is 45 kts
EDIT: It also says that System deliveries started in 2021. What does that mean exactly?

I can at least count 3 units, but there could be more. It started from 2021 with first trials, then followed by a live torpedo that also can be (and was) used as a training torpedo and finally the prototype which made the cool part in a SINKEX.

 

[Anmdt]

It was only mentioned as "intentions" in previous years (some of which go back several years, when Roketsan implied intended projects in a presentation). Now it is confirmed by Roketsan's CEO, the super-cavitation torpedo studies have begun on the experimental technology-capability gain level. Far from making a prototype, but the first step has been done for know-how of cavitation mechanism, manoeuvring of the torpedo etc.

They haven't decided on the specific design of the torpedo, as far as I know. They're investigating the best suited approach for TN's needs.

The torpedo has a cool, but hard to spell, name that fits the possible shape. Tip: It was trademarked by Roketsan a few years ago and is a reference to the name of a fish.​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757734202617876747

Roketsan has begun work with ITU on a super-cavitating torpedo. Roketsan has begun trials with ITU on the technology of a bubble capsule, which allows the torpedo to move inside an air bubble.