TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Iskander]

That still feels like a robbery though.

20 000 000 000 = 200 KAAN!!!
This is not just a robbery, this is the robbery of the century

 

[dBSPL]

I wonder if this 20b$ package also includes platforms for other Air Force needs such as logistics, aerial refueling or AEW&C. While the window of opportunity(I am still not sure about btw) is open, the option identified at the beginning of the Peace Eagle program could be filled. Or could there be a possibility of large number of C-130 procurement, which is we previously saw many rumours about for other countries' C-130s. I mean, the last platform procurement agreement with the US in meaningful size. Whatever can be taken, and close the book.

 

[Zafer]

The deal in question as it is disclosed only covers stuff we can already make in-house. I would only buy stuff for under 5bn which primarily includes engines and other stuff that we can not make in a short time and stuff we need only a few of.

 

[Sanchez]

Close call by a C-160 Gören, Reportedly landed with minimal damage to plane and no injury to pilots. Great effort.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750432086287126541

 

[Khagan1923]

I wonder if this 20b$ package also includes platforms for other Air Force needs such as logistics, aerial refueling or AEW&C. While the window of opportunity(I am still not sure about btw) is open, the option identified at the beginning of the Peace Eagle program could be filled. Or could there be a possibility of large number of C-130 procurement, which is we previously saw many rumours about for other countries' C-130s. I mean, the last platform procurement agreement with the US in meaningful size. Whatever can be taken, and close the book.

We will see once the notification actually comes but I touched on this once or twice that even if you include the missiles and bombs in the amount never reaches 20B$.

I think the number was around 10-11B$. So still interested to see where the remaining 9-10B$ come from.

I think if any other aircraft was included we would have heard about it by now.

Gotta wait and see.

 

[Khagan1923]

Close call by a C-160 Gören, Reportedly landed with minimal damage to plane and no injury to pilots. Great effort.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750432086287126541

How many users beside us still actively use the C-160? Germany itself I believe retired all of them or is about to. Any other one?
We should have taken up that deal Embrear offered us for the C390 years ago. Could have an Transporter to replace the C-160 and aging C-130 with an in-house solution. And even took a part in the exports of the aircraft to third countries.

But isn't that the tale of our time. Us being offered a good deal and rejecting it.

Now we most likely can't even buy any A400M or C-130 due to sanctions.

 

[Agha Sher]

Shouldn't Turkiye go for Y-20 as a heavy airlifter? Much more capable than A400M and I think China would be willing to supply.

IMO, Turkiye should under no circumstances allow this 20bn USD robbery. Turkiye's close enemies (Greece, Israel) are both getting F-35. F-16V is going to be useless.

 

[Sanchez]

How many users beside us still actively use the C-160?

I think only Turkey still uses them. And there are only one or two in the service, Gören here is a special one. They were pulled from regular cargo roles few years back.

 

[Bogeyman]

Close call by a C-160 Gören, Reportedly landed with minimal damage to plane and no injury to pilots. Great effort.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750432086287126541

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750417897195819488

The aircraft flew between buildings.

 

[Kartal1]

Extreme professionalism by the pilots and a good luck. It's good that the situation ended without serious damage.

They had to be put out of service long ago. Unfortunately we have a serious gap when it comes to cargo aircraft. We need additional heavy lifters, we need replacement for some of our lighter cargo aircraft and new tankers. Nobody is even talking about this.

 

[Sanchez]

Aircraft and AF300 under it is a goner.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750455215860351113

Pity, she was a veteran of Cyprus. Per Levent Başara, she was one of the 7 C-160s on July 20 dropping paratroopers. Hopefully they turn her into a museum. She earned this much, bringing her crew safely down for a one last time.

 

[Bogeyman]

Aircraft and AF300 under it is a goner.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750455215860351113

Pity, she was a veteran of Cyprus. Per Levent Başara, she was one of the 7 C-160s on July 20 dropping paratroopers. Hopefully they turn her into a museum. She earned this much, bringing her crew safely down for a one last time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750454106261483781

 

[Sanchez]

"On July 20, 1974, in the first sortie to Cyprus, aircraft number 036 was the column leader. Its commander was retired pilot general Safter Necioğlu, then a brigadier general. In the 2nd sortie, this aircraft was wounded by a 12.7mm turret and became a Cyprus veteran. I hope it ends up in a museum."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750482212426809791

 

[Tornadoss]

The project that laid the foundations of the Hava SOJ project was the MILKAR 2U project. The aircraft with tail number 69-036 that we saw in the 2019 Anatolian Eagle Exercise is one of the two C-160Ds equipped with the MILKAR 2U RF Jamming System. The aircraft, which blinds enemy radars thanks to the equipment inside, forms the basis of the Air SOJ project. C-160 Milkar 2U aircraft increased the security of our air elements by blinding the air defense systems of the Syrian Air Defense Forces in the Spring Shield Operation and played an important role in destroying the Pantsir air defense system of the Syrian Air Defense Forces.

HAVA SOJ Projesi ve Türk Elektronik Harp Uçakları | SavunmaSanayiST

HAVA SOJ Projesi ile Türk Hava Kuvvetleri, Avrupa’da Kraliyet Hava Kuvvetleri’nden sonra Elektronik Karıştırma/Taarruz uçağına sahip ikinci hava kuvveti olacak.

www.savunmasanayist.com

So probably it will affect some of the capability of the Airforce till Havasoj is delivered.

Glad that pilots are not harmed. However a sad moment for the bird.

 

[Sanchez]

HAVA SOJ Projesi ve Türk Elektronik Harp Uçakları | SavunmaSanayiST

HAVA SOJ Projesi ile Türk Hava Kuvvetleri, Avrupa’da Kraliyet Hava Kuvvetleri’nden sonra Elektronik Karıştırma/Taarruz uçağına sahip ikinci hava kuvveti olacak.

www.savunmasanayist.com

So probably it will affect some of the capability of the Airforce till Havasoj is delivered.

Glad that pilots are not harmed. However a sad moment for the bird.

Oh shit, i hadn't noticed the radome on top. 036 was indeed one of the Milkar birds. This is very bad news for our miniscule airborne EW capability.

Aircraft Photo of 69-036 | Transall C-160D Golge | Turkey - Air Force | AirHistory.net #148437

Aircraft photo of 69-036 - Transall C-160D Golge - Turkey - Air Force (221 Filo), taken by Stephan de Bruijn at Konya (LTAN / KYA) in Turkey on 26 June 2019 during the Anatolian Eagle 2019. This modified C-160D (once German Air Force 50+28) entered Turkish Air Force service in the early 70s as...

www.airhistory.net

 

[BalkanTurk90]

bad news but aslo some CN-235 are for jamming

 

[TheInsider]

Close call by a C-160 Gören, Reportedly landed with minimal damage to plane and no injury to pilots. Great effort.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750432086287126541

It looks like a Milkar plane. It looks repairable but it might cost a lot so might not be worth repairing it.

 

[Fatman17]

Turkey will be spending 20 billion dollars on 40 new F-16 Block70 and 79 upgrade kits for existing Block-50/52 .
Thats alot of money.

 

[Saithan]

I hope not. I trust the senate and house to block and Trump to thorougly screw the agenda up even more.

I want the bloody domestic engine to be finished so we can make pur jet with own engine. It’s fucking annoying to read these news

 

[Rooxbar]

I hope not. I trust the senate and house to block and Trump to thorougly screw the agenda up even more.

I want the bloody domestic engine to be finished so we can make pur jet with own engine. It’s fucking annoying to read these news

My hopes are in the same lines; hopefully we see a parallel to what happened in second Annan plan where our stupidity almost cost us gravely, only to be retaliated with a counter-stupidity from the other side that rescued us. U.S. senate might be led to believe they are hurting us by blocking the sale, but it will be a blessing in disguise. Our indigenous programs will be sped up, they will employ more and reach results faster. We can weather any storms coming our way in the next 5-6 years with what we have; we also don't need to create any storms, saving the right to a reaction to belligerent moves later, when we have the force we need. History is patient.