Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions

Agha Sher

Experienced member
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,758
Reactions
11 9,309
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Afghanistan
I think Armenia is preparing itself for a round 3 of proper beating.

In recent weeks, Putin and the Russian government have called for the corridor to be established.

This week, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan stressed that the corridor must be established.

Today, Aliyev stated that Armenia is not interested in peace, is re-arming for conflict.

Meanwhile, over the past weeks, Az MoD has stated a surge in border clashes and exercises.
 

Iskander

Contributor
Think Tank Analyst
Messages
490
Reactions
10 1,366
Nation of residence
Azerbaijan
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan

Az MoD started posting videos of heavy equipment training again. Every time they've done that intensely has been before an operation.
80-100 thousand delegations representing more than 190 countries of the world are expected to be received within the framework of the conference (COP29 - Climate change) to be held in Baku on November 11-24. COP29 is considered the biggest event in the country's history.
Therefore, no serious action is expected until the end of the conference. After that, winter begins. We hope next spring :)
 

Kitra

Active member
Messages
110
Reactions
4 263
Nation of residence
Sweden
Nation of origin
Turkey
80-100 thousand delegations representing more than 190 countries of the world are expected to be received within the framework of the conference (COP29 - Climate change) to be held in Baku on November 11-24. COP29 is considered the biggest event in the country's history.
Therefore, no serious action is expected until the end of the conference. After that, winter begins. We hope next spring :)
Winter is a good time to figth when you have aircrafts/drones with infrared cameras. Every foxhole will glow up in the winter or they will freeze to death in those holes without a fire.
 

TR_123456

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
5,104
Reactions
12,740
Nation of residence
Nethelands
Nation of origin
Turkey
Winter is a good time to figth when you have aircrafts/drones with infrared cameras. Every foxhole will glow up in the winter or they will freeze to death in those holes without a fire.
Yes but the other side has to start first to avoid unnecessary complaining by the usual suspects.
 

Zapper

Experienced member
India Correspondent
Messages
1,719
Reactions
10 947
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
India

India Becomes Armenia’s Largest Defense Supplier​

By: Syed Fazl-e-Haider

Executive Summary:

  • Armenia is increasingly turning to India for military support, making significant purchases of Indian-made weapon systems, including the Akash-1S air defense system, as part of a $2 billion defense partnership signed in 2020.
  • Armenia’s pivot toward India marks a shift away from its traditional reliance on Russian military supplies, in part driven by tensions over Russia’s involvement in Ukraine and allegedly delayed arms deliveries to Armenia.
  • India’s deepening ties with Armenia provide it with a strategic foothold in the South Caucasus, countering Pakistani and Turkish influence in the region while also enhancing its connectivity to European and Eurasian markets.
1726517829755.png


In August, it was reported that Armenia will receive India’s indigenously developed Akash-1S air defense missile system later in 2024. Armenia, which had placed an order for 15 Akash missile systems in 2022 for $720 million, will be the first foreign buyer of the platform. The Akash-1S systems, which Indian company Bharat Dynamics Limited will supply, provide reliable protection against air threats such as fighters, guided missiles, and drones (ARMENPRESS; India Defense Research Wing, August 8). Military cooperation between New Delhi and Yerevan continues to deepen, with Armenia emerging as the largest importer of weapons from India in the past four years. A report from the Indian Finance Ministry said, “The former Soviet Republic of Armenia has become the largest importer of weapons from India after concluding deals on the purchase of Pinaka multiple-launch rocket systems and Akash anti-aircraft systems.” The report further said, “the total volume of weapons purchases by Armenia from India reached $600 million by the start of current [financial year] 2024–25.” Under multimillion-dollar defense deals, New Delhi is committed to supplying Indian-made howitzers, anti-tank rockets, and anti-drone equipment to the Armenian army (Azatutyun, July 24). The deepening defense cooperation between India and Armenia reflects both nations’ strategic efforts to reshape regional alliances, as Armenia seeks alternatives to Russian military support and India looks to expand its geopolitical influence in the South Caucasus.

In 2023, Yerevan decided to appoint a defense attaché to its embassy in New Delhi in a move to strengthen military cooperation with India. The decision came after Armenia signed several defense deals with Indian arms manufacturers in 2022. The deals, which totalled $245 million, included the acquisition of Indian multiple launch rocket systems, anti-tank rockets, and ammunition. The Armenian military attaché will supposedly coordinate existing defense programs between the two countries (Caucasus Watch, May 23, 2023). The presence of an Armenian defense attaché in India will allow Yerevan and New Delhi to conduct military cooperation in a more official and diplomatic manner.

Armenia previously heavily relied on Russia for the supply of weapons and ammunition. Russia was the largest exporter of major arms to Armenia over the past decade, accounting for 94 percent of Armenia’s major arms imports from 2011 to 2020. During this period, Moscow supplied armored personnel carriers, air defense systems, multiple rocket launchers, and tanks to Yerevan. Additionally, in 2016, Russia supplied Iskander short-range ballistic missiles with an estimated range of 300 kilometers (186 mi). In 2019, Moscow also delivered four Su-30SM combat aircraft to Armenia, significantly strengthening its strike capability (SIPRI, April 30, 2021).

Yerevan is seeking alternative suppliers in part due to increasing tensions with Moscow amid the Kremlin’s ongoing war against Ukraine. In February, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan reiterated Yerevan’s independent stance on the Ukraine war, saying, “Armenia is not an ally of Russia on the issue of Ukraine, and this is our sincere position” (Caucasus Watch, February 20, 2020). Defense deals signed between Armenia and India could raise eyebrows in Moscow, as the contracts undermine Russia’s status as the principal supplier of weapons and ammunition to Armenia. In 2022, Pashinyan, without naming Russia, said, “Our allies have failed to deliver weapons to Armenia despite contracts signed with them in the last two years” (Azatutyun , May 18, 2023).

The deepening India-Armenia defense ties are not without their own geopolitical angles. Relations between India and Armenia became closer following the 2020 Karabakh war, during which Pakistan strongly supported Azerbaijan against Armenia (see EDM, December 15, 2016). In October 2020, Pashinyan claimed that Pakistani special forces were fighting alongside the Azerbaijani army against Armenia in their conflict over the disputed Karabakh region. Islamabad, however, rejected the claim as “baseless and unwarranted” (Dawn, October 17, 2020). Critics in India nevertheless drew a parallel between the Karabakh region and the disputed Kashmir region between India and Pakistan—over which the two South Asian rivals have fought three wars since their creation in 1947. Türkiye vociferously supported Pakistan’s stand on Kashmir, and Pakistan, in return, stood with Türkiye in supporting Azerbaijan on the Karabakh dispute against Armenia (Timesnow News, September 29, 2020; see EDM, August 16, 2021, October 2, 2023, July 25).

India is strengthening Armenia’s military muscle in a move to turn Yerevan into its strategic partner in the South Caucasus. Armenia became the largest foreign recipient of Indian weapons in 2020, after the total volume of defense contracts concluded with India was estimated at $2 billion. Armenia has also become the first foreign operator of the Akash SAM system (Russian Council, February 19). India sees Armenia’s bilateral and multilateral cooperation with Iran, France, and Greece as a way to undertake strategic connectivity projects in the South Caucasus (Observer Research Foundation, May 17). This has been further spurred by Pakistan’s previous activities in the South Caucasus. In 2017, Pakistan signed a trilateral agreement on regional cooperation with Azerbaijan and Türkiye. As previously stated, in 2020, Islamabad stood with Ankara in supporting Azerbaijan in its war against Armenia over Karabakh. The three countries signed the “trilateral Islamabad Declaration” in 2021 to show solidarity with Azerbaijan after the war (Anadolu Ajansı, January 14, 2021; EDM, August 16, 2021). India, in response, created its own trilateral format with Armenia and Iran for cooperation on communication and resource management (see EDM, June 21, 2023; Russian Council , February 19).

In 2023, Asif Iqbal, President of the Indian Trade and Economic Organization, stated, “India is preparing to become an observer country of the EAEU in 2024. This circumstance will allow us to deepen cooperation with Armenia on all tracks, including defense” (Sputnik Armenia, May 10, 2023). India is currently negotiating a free trade agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) and may be looking to find more opportunities to strengthen its strategic partnership with Armenia (The Economic Times [India], July 15). In the rapidly changing geopolitical realities of the region, Indian leaders value Armenia as a strategic ally. New Delhi sees Yerevan as a potential part of future transit routes to EU countries.

The growing defense cooperation between India and Armenia underscores the shifting geopolitical dynamics in the region, with both nations seeking to expand their strategic influence. For Armenia, partnering with India offers not only advanced military capabilities but also a new diplomatic and economic pathway toward greater independence and regional security as Yerevan looks to lessen its reliance on Russia. For India, these ties provide a foothold in the South Caucasus, offering potential access to strategic transit corridors and enhancing its presence in a region where rivals like Pakistan and Türkiye are already active. As this relationship deepens, both countries are positioning themselves to leverage each other’s strengths in an increasingly multipolar world.

https://jamestown.org/program/india-becomes-armenias-largest-defense-supplier/
 

somegoodusername

Committed member
Messages
225
Reactions
2 378
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

India Becomes Armenia’s Largest Defense Supplier​

Good. Least amount of bang for that buck spent. I would be more afraid if they spent on that money on French systems. Indians systems used in Karabakh War proved their usefulness, for the Azerbaijani Army.
 

Kitra

Active member
Messages
110
Reactions
4 263
Nation of residence
Sweden
Nation of origin
Turkey
Yes but the other side has to start first to avoid unnecessary complaining by the usual suspects.
You are thinking like a turk about justice. Start thinking like a european where the goal is enough to find justice.

The criticism and sanction will come no matter who starts or the reason. The Europeans justified 30 years of occupation and did everything to keep the occupation even after the murder and ethnic cleansing of close to 1 million Azerbaijani turks. They are still hoping that Armenia to reoccupy that land, hence they send them weapons.

In another field, europans are justifying a genocide of palistinians that have been ongoing for +70 years. Or the complete destrutions of countries in middles east, asia, africa and even south america.

Europeans talk sweet about human rights but sheads no tears when murdering millions of people at the same time.
 

Jammer

Committed member
Messages
157
Reactions
3 148
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India

India Becomes Armenia’s Largest Defense Supplier​

By: Syed Fazl-e-Haider

Executive Summary:

  • Armenia is increasingly turning to India for military support, making significant purchases of Indian-made weapon systems, including the Akash-1S air defense system, as part of a $2 billion defense partnership signed in 2020.
  • Armenia’s pivot toward India marks a shift away from its traditional reliance on Russian military supplies, in part driven by tensions over Russia’s involvement in Ukraine and allegedly delayed arms deliveries to Armenia.
  • India’s deepening ties with Armenia provide it with a strategic foothold in the South Caucasus, countering Pakistani and Turkish influence in the region while also enhancing its connectivity to European and Eurasian markets.
View attachment 70632

In August, it was reported that Armenia will receive India’s indigenously developed Akash-1S air defense missile system later in 2024. Armenia, which had placed an order for 15 Akash missile systems in 2022 for $720 million, will be the first foreign buyer of the platform. The Akash-1S systems, which Indian company Bharat Dynamics Limited will supply, provide reliable protection against air threats such as fighters, guided missiles, and drones (ARMENPRESS; India Defense Research Wing, August 8). Military cooperation between New Delhi and Yerevan continues to deepen, with Armenia emerging as the largest importer of weapons from India in the past four years. A report from the Indian Finance Ministry said, “The former Soviet Republic of Armenia has become the largest importer of weapons from India after concluding deals on the purchase of Pinaka multiple-launch rocket systems and Akash anti-aircraft systems.” The report further said, “the total volume of weapons purchases by Armenia from India reached $600 million by the start of current [financial year] 2024–25.” Under multimillion-dollar defense deals, New Delhi is committed to supplying Indian-made howitzers, anti-tank rockets, and anti-drone equipment to the Armenian army (Azatutyun, July 24). The deepening defense cooperation between India and Armenia reflects both nations’ strategic efforts to reshape regional alliances, as Armenia seeks alternatives to Russian military support and India looks to expand its geopolitical influence in the South Caucasus.

In 2023, Yerevan decided to appoint a defense attaché to its embassy in New Delhi in a move to strengthen military cooperation with India. The decision came after Armenia signed several defense deals with Indian arms manufacturers in 2022. The deals, which totalled $245 million, included the acquisition of Indian multiple launch rocket systems, anti-tank rockets, and ammunition. The Armenian military attaché will supposedly coordinate existing defense programs between the two countries (Caucasus Watch, May 23, 2023). The presence of an Armenian defense attaché in India will allow Yerevan and New Delhi to conduct military cooperation in a more official and diplomatic manner.

Armenia previously heavily relied on Russia for the supply of weapons and ammunition. Russia was the largest exporter of major arms to Armenia over the past decade, accounting for 94 percent of Armenia’s major arms imports from 2011 to 2020. During this period, Moscow supplied armored personnel carriers, air defense systems, multiple rocket launchers, and tanks to Yerevan. Additionally, in 2016, Russia supplied Iskander short-range ballistic missiles with an estimated range of 300 kilometers (186 mi). In 2019, Moscow also delivered four Su-30SM combat aircraft to Armenia, significantly strengthening its strike capability (SIPRI, April 30, 2021).

Yerevan is seeking alternative suppliers in part due to increasing tensions with Moscow amid the Kremlin’s ongoing war against Ukraine. In February, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan reiterated Yerevan’s independent stance on the Ukraine war, saying, “Armenia is not an ally of Russia on the issue of Ukraine, and this is our sincere position” (Caucasus Watch, February 20, 2020). Defense deals signed between Armenia and India could raise eyebrows in Moscow, as the contracts undermine Russia’s status as the principal supplier of weapons and ammunition to Armenia. In 2022, Pashinyan, without naming Russia, said, “Our allies have failed to deliver weapons to Armenia despite contracts signed with them in the last two years” (Azatutyun , May 18, 2023).

The deepening India-Armenia defense ties are not without their own geopolitical angles. Relations between India and Armenia became closer following the 2020 Karabakh war, during which Pakistan strongly supported Azerbaijan against Armenia (see EDM, December 15, 2016). In October 2020, Pashinyan claimed that Pakistani special forces were fighting alongside the Azerbaijani army against Armenia in their conflict over the disputed Karabakh region. Islamabad, however, rejected the claim as “baseless and unwarranted” (Dawn, October 17, 2020). Critics in India nevertheless drew a parallel between the Karabakh region and the disputed Kashmir region between India and Pakistan—over which the two South Asian rivals have fought three wars since their creation in 1947. Türkiye vociferously supported Pakistan’s stand on Kashmir, and Pakistan, in return, stood with Türkiye in supporting Azerbaijan on the Karabakh dispute against Armenia (Timesnow News, September 29, 2020; see EDM, August 16, 2021, October 2, 2023, July 25).

India is strengthening Armenia’s military muscle in a move to turn Yerevan into its strategic partner in the South Caucasus. Armenia became the largest foreign recipient of Indian weapons in 2020, after the total volume of defense contracts concluded with India was estimated at $2 billion. Armenia has also become the first foreign operator of the Akash SAM system (Russian Council, February 19). India sees Armenia’s bilateral and multilateral cooperation with Iran, France, and Greece as a way to undertake strategic connectivity projects in the South Caucasus (Observer Research Foundation, May 17). This has been further spurred by Pakistan’s previous activities in the South Caucasus. In 2017, Pakistan signed a trilateral agreement on regional cooperation with Azerbaijan and Türkiye. As previously stated, in 2020, Islamabad stood with Ankara in supporting Azerbaijan in its war against Armenia over Karabakh. The three countries signed the “trilateral Islamabad Declaration” in 2021 to show solidarity with Azerbaijan after the war (Anadolu Ajansı, January 14, 2021; EDM, August 16, 2021). India, in response, created its own trilateral format with Armenia and Iran for cooperation on communication and resource management (see EDM, June 21, 2023; Russian Council , February 19).

In 2023, Asif Iqbal, President of the Indian Trade and Economic Organization, stated, “India is preparing to become an observer country of the EAEU in 2024. This circumstance will allow us to deepen cooperation with Armenia on all tracks, including defense” (Sputnik Armenia, May 10, 2023). India is currently negotiating a free trade agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) and may be looking to find more opportunities to strengthen its strategic partnership with Armenia (The Economic Times [India], July 15). In the rapidly changing geopolitical realities of the region, Indian leaders value Armenia as a strategic ally. New Delhi sees Yerevan as a potential part of future transit routes to EU countries.

The growing defense cooperation between India and Armenia underscores the shifting geopolitical dynamics in the region, with both nations seeking to expand their strategic influence. For Armenia, partnering with India offers not only advanced military capabilities but also a new diplomatic and economic pathway toward greater independence and regional security as Yerevan looks to lessen its reliance on Russia. For India, these ties provide a foothold in the South Caucasus, offering potential access to strategic transit corridors and enhancing its presence in a region where rivals like Pakistan and Türkiye are already active. As this relationship deepens, both countries are positioning themselves to leverage each other’s strengths in an increasingly multipolar world.

https://jamestown.org/program/india-becomes-armenias-largest-defense-supplier/
To think most indians couldn't even place Armenia in a map some time ago to getting access to indian weapons and industry is still mindblogging.
 

Azeri441

Well-known member
Messages
312
Reactions
6 1,330
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan
He is under the cope that indian weapons suck. But dudes in Ukraine are founding out why that's not the case and why india sold upto 2.6 billion dollars of arms in 2023-24 and are aiming to reach 5 billion in 2 years.

dudes in Ukraine? what Indian weapons are even in used in Ukraine? Lmao
 

Anastasius

Contributor
Moderator
Azerbaijan Moderator
Messages
1,416
Reactions
5 3,145
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Azerbaijan
I don't think Indian weapon systems suck. And should be taken as seriously as anything else, should we have to face them. But I'm also confused by the claim that they are used in Ukraine. Closest I've heard is that some foreign weapons systems intended for India were diverted for use in the conflict. (Russian weapons mainly I believe) But I don't think I've heard anything about Indian weapon systems themselves being used. I've checked the weapons delivery list on Wikipedia too (unreliable source, I know). It doesn't mention anything about India there either.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

TR_123456

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
5,104
Reactions
12,740
Nation of residence
Nethelands
Nation of origin
Turkey
Good. Least amount of bang for that buck spent. I would be more afraid if they spent on that money on French systems. Indians systems used in Karabakh War proved their usefulness, for the Azerbaijani Army.
There were no Indian weapons used in Karabag,Armenia bought them after the war!
 

TR_123456

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
5,104
Reactions
12,740
Nation of residence
Nethelands
Nation of origin
Turkey
He is under the cope that indian weapons suck. But dudes in Ukraine are founding out why that's not the case and why india sold upto 2.6 billion dollars of arms in 2023-24 and are aiming to reach 5 billion in 2 years.
Yeah that looks like bs,ammunition maybe but no Indian weapons used in the Ukraine Russia war.
Care to show us some proof?
 

Jammer

Committed member
Messages
157
Reactions
3 148
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
Yeah that looks like bs,ammunition maybe but no Indian weapons used in the Ukraine Russia war.
Care to show us some proof?
This was the largest order. Most of the deals with US or other european countries never make out untill the ammo starts arriving at ukraine.

The whole 2.6 billion arms sales by india during 2023-24 majority where ammo or artillery shells.
 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,385
Reactions
82 10,923
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Buddy every one is buying indian artillery shells and are the ones who are supplying to ukraine from US to europe. Indian firms are already in war footing and making the most out of the conflict.Indian ammo production is nothing to scoff at.
Though munitions are a huge part of warfare, when we talk about "weapons", we don't really think about munitions unless they are PGM kits, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles etc. Indian munitions are indeed part of the Ukraine War, but as far as I can see, not weapon systems so far. Munitions from nearly all countries are found in Ukraine at the moment, be it Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Turkish whatever.
 

Jammer

Committed member
Messages
157
Reactions
3 148
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
Though munitions are a huge part of warfare, when we talk about "weapons", we don't really think about munitions unless they are PGM kits, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles etc. Indian munitions are indeed part of the Ukraine War, but as far as I can see, not weapon systems so far. Munitions from nearly all countries are found in Ukraine at the moment, be it Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Turkish whatever.
Well in hindsight those ammunition sales may look boring they have propelled india from being a nobody 3 years ago to now selling almost half of what turkey exported.one thing that goes under radar is private indian companies selling stuff. MKU selling panoramic night vision to brazilian police or SMPP selling BPJs and helmets to Philippines aren't gonna grab attention. Adding to the fact that even the ammunition we sell most are used by countries to fill their stocks that were depleted only a small percentage reaches ukraine because of loopholes.
 

Zapper

Experienced member
India Correspondent
Messages
1,719
Reactions
10 947
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
India
Good. Least amount of bang for that buck spent. I would be more afraid if they spent on that money on French systems. Indians systems used in Karabakh War proved their usefulness, for the Azerbaijani Army.
The first Indian defense platforms delivered to the Armenians were the Swathi weapons locating radar which were delivered 1-1.5yr after the Karabakh war
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom