TR Indigenously Made Firearms & Medium Calibre Weapons

[Huelague]

Sarsilmaz SAR-56 in ADEX exhibition in Azerbaijan.

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But still using G3 by our soldiers.

 

[Kartal1]

But still using G3 by our soldiers.

G3s got replaced in all of the operational units of TSK as far as I know. They got MPT-76 and if we talk about Commando personnel either MPT-55 or SAR-56 (newest deliveries). I think only a small part of the Gendarmerie's operational units are still using HK-33s, but they are replacing them with KCR-556.

Some of TSK units still use G3s, but they are units that are not operational and got lower priority than our commando units. Commando units use G3/HK-33 in training (don't ask me why).

This is from the recent visit of Tajik officers to the Egirdir Mountain and Commando Training School Command.

We can see the soldiers equipped with SAR-56. Other national rifles are also presented to the Tajik delegation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763972435840270669

 

[UkroTurk]

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[Kartal1]

Our handgun industry invaded US civil market.

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I am very delighted that Turkish companies are keeping up with the trends. Some years ago I couldn't even imagine that Turkish firearms manufacturers will come up with anything more than a CZ-75 clone and an MPT-55.

AKDAS are already supplier of 40mm grenade launchers to TSK. If the rifle prove itself I think we may see a future for it especially in SOF. We know that SAT are still using their old M4s and despite the capability they gained trough modification these rifles accumulated a lot of age already. SAT tested MPT-55 some time ago, SAS even took deliveries of MPT-55, but SAT restrained. Due to the nature of SAT's mission profiles, including VBSS operations they need something that can be shortened for operations in contained spaces and the stock options of AKDAS SAM-223 can suit the needs of a SOF unit perfectly. Airborne operations are also easier when you can shorten your rifle. What I think is missing and is of critical importance is the adjustable gas system.

 

[UkroTurk]

I am sure that here in our forum we have guests from Turkish weapon manufacturers.

Please start considering long stroke assault rifles. I am not telling making AKs.

With AR accuracy and long stroke durability.

Our short stroke MPTs have complicated springs.

Look at Sig MCX SPEAR . Spear is differs from ordinary MCX with long stroke.
With long stroke piston your assault rifle could perform like PKM.

The assault rifle of every soldier and every mission should have long stroke piston which is simplier and more reliable.

The key word "Overheating " and ""simplicity "

https://www.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/xgtgk6

İnteresting example of long stroke AR-15
Can you feel the difference

Another new long stroke weapon from USA

 

[CAN_TR]

Look at Sig MCX SPEAR . Spear is differs from ordinary MCX with long stroke.
With long stroke piston your assault rifle could perform like PKM.
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Because the rifle on the picture (SPEAR) is chambered in 6.8×51mm and not in 5.56x45mm like the old MCX, MCX Virtus or MCX LT. All MCX and also the SPEAR (XM7) have short-stroke gas pistons, they aren't long-stroke.

Orange is the op rod, red the op rod spring there is no piston like on the AK or other long stroke rifles.

 

[Huelague]

 

[B_A]

 

[Zafer]

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Looking good

 

[B_A]

Looking good

SARSILMAZ always took good photo and video than other Turkish small arm brands.

 

[Aqerdf]

New rifle design from MKE, our third 7.62x39mm rifle:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1795423586598932860

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1795849409659281881

With KCR-739 and SAR-15T.

To me, the latest MKE one has more sensible design choices:

For one, like KCR-739, it's an gas piston AR design. So more modular compared to today's modern AK design, like SAR-15T.

For two, but this time, unlike KCR-739, which it can only take "very niche AR style 7.62x39 mags", this can take "more popular and available AK style mags".

Overall i like it.

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Thinking out loud, what potential 7.62x39 design from our Industry could pass that ?

-This too, again, but addition to this one could you make 5.45 one too dear MKE ?
-Kale's latest AR-18 style design but with AK calibers and mags ?
-Most complete AK in the world via Sarsılmaz ?
- A solution from System Defence in MFR form: le modern RPD ?

 

[Slayer]

Türkiye's first national folding stock infantry rifle KNG-C5, which can be used in various operations, especially in urban area operations, which is one of the main areas of asymmetric warfare.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1818977574753566956

Finally. Long overdue. JOP/POH have been screaming for it.

 

[UkroTurk]

If KALE makes it in 7.62x39 cal , Arab countries will wait in queue .

 

[UkroTurk]

Shame on Turkish gun manufacturers because they haven't been able to Submachine gun which SAT would use!

Shame on Sarsılmaz due-to their 9mm AR platform couldn't earn trust of Turkish SAT.

Turkish SAT conducting naval training with CZ Scorpion SMG ! on TCG in Libya!

They replaced MKEK MP5 clones with CZ Scorpion. İnteresting if our army prefers a gun, it is really better than others.

İt is time for creating a reliable SMG.

I don't want sig mpx clones which have gas-piston system.

We need clones of BT APC9K with hydraulic buffer.

 

[boredaf]

Shame on Turkish gun manufacturers because they haven't been able to Submachine gun which SAT would use!

Shame on Sarsılmaz due-to their 9mm AR platform couldn't earn trust of Turkish SAT.

Turkish SAT conducting naval training with CZ Scorpion SMG ! on TCG in Libya!

They replaced MKEK MP5 clones with CZ Scorpion. İnteresting if our army prefers a gun, it is really better than others.

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İt is time for creating a reliable SMG.

I don't want sig mpx clones which have gas-piston system.

We need clones of BT APC9K with hydraulic buffer.

This is from 2022

 

[Kartal1]

The Special Forces Command is currently testing Mertsav MAR556 in 14.5 and 7 inch configurations.

So far the opinions are very positive!

 

[CAN_TR]

The Special Forces Command is currently testing Mertsav MAR556 in 14.5 and 7 inch configurations.

So far the opinions are very positive!

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Looks solid, cold hammer forged barrel, MLOK, interesting muzzle device and barrel profile, however...

Everything below 11.5" is nowdays not ideal for modern military grade 5.56x45 rounds especially without suppressor mounted on, 7.5" is literally a mini flamethrower (muzzle flash) and extremly loud. We can see that Jandarma (JOH) is using them in operations, without suppressors, in a firefight at night this is like showing the enemy where you/unit are the moment you pull that trigger. Does the Military think about such important details? I don't think so when i see that they are interested or consider a 7" rifle chambered in 5.56x45...


This chart here shows how much velocity and energy the 5.56x45 is losing below 11".

If we compare the 7" 5.56x45 with a 7" 300.Blk we see the difference, even though the 300.Blk has less velocity it's heavier bullet has nearly 50% higher stopping power, another huge benefit of the 300.Blk is you can shoot it reliably subsonic which means lower noise and flash signature.

*NOTE: fps -> feet per second.

 

[Kartal1]

Looks solid, cold hammer forged barrel, MLOK, interesting muzzle device and barrel profile, however...

Everything below 11.5" is nowdays not ideal for modern military grade 5.56x45 rounds especially without suppressor mounted on, 7.5" is literally a mini flamethrower (muzzle flash) and extremly loud. We can see that Jandarma (JOH) is using them in operations, without suppressors, in a firefight at night this is like showing the enemy where you/unit are the moment you pull that trigger. Does the Military think about such important details? I don't think so when i see that they are interested or consider a 7" rifle chambered in 5.56x45...


This chart here shows how much velocity and energy the 5.56x45 is losing below 11".

If we compare the 7" 5.56x45 with a 7" 300.Blk we see the difference, even though the 300.Blk has less velocity it's heavier bullet has nearly 50% higher stopping power, another huge benefit of the 300.Blk is you can shoot it reliably subsonic which means lower noise and flash signature.
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*NOTE: fps -> feet per second.

They would probably use these as PDWs in scenarios requiring lower profile. So far they are impressed with its stability in automatic firing mode and describe an interesting burning effect on the target.

OKK is searching for ways of diversification of its inventory.

 

[boredaf]

They would probably use these as PDWs in scenarios requiring lower profile. So far they are impressed with its stability in automatic firing mode and describe an interesting burning effect on the target.

OKK is searching for ways of diversification of its inventory.

Yeah, it's not like special forces are going to use short barrels on open space. I assume they choose to go with 5.56 instead of 9x19 for logistical reasons as well? It would probably make their lives easier if everyone was on the same calibre after all.

 

[UkroTurk]

The Special Forces Command is currently testing Mertsav MAR556 in 14.5 and 7 inch configurations.

So far the opinions are very positive!

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Why testing another carbine since There is MPT55? Same platform.