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I would support Hasbulla getting the presidency if he let us destroy YPG.
That requires knowing the ins and outs of U.S. political system and an understanding of how you can influence it with veteran diplomats and a well-researched strategy. Instead we have people who think Capitol Hill is the most consistent and rational individual human being in the entire history. We stopped them from voting for Armenian g- for decades until illiterates took over.
 

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But for Turkish who wants to wiped out YPG/YPJ to create buffer zone, you have more possibilities that would happen under Trump presidency.

He tried to pulled US forces out of Syria back in 2019, the decision which made Jim Mattis resigned from his position of SecDef and SDF resorted to Russia and Assad for security guarantee in Manbij which US forces had MSS in Ayn Dadat and Kobani which US had airstrip there (Kobani Landing Zone) in notorious LaFarge Cement Plant (owned by Holcim).

Btw, LaFarge known to paid ‘taxes’ to Islamic State so they could still operational even when the territory still controlled by IS.
 

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Please share source. I want to follow live if there's any.
just google it,
taken from The Associated Press (AP)
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or from the NYT
 
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At 0220 GMT it looks like a close election. A counting machine in one state malfunctioned, which will doubtless lead to a legal challenge if Trump loses the election.

PS A number of bomb scares have resulted in voting being halted and restarted with voting ending later than scheduled. Again, if Trump loses, more grounds to cast doubt on the result.
 
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But for Turkish who wants to wiped out YPG/YPJ to create buffer zone, you have more possibilities that would happen under Trump presidency.

He tried to pulled US forces out of Syria back in 2019, the decision which made Jim Mattis resigned from his position of SecDef and SDF resorted to Russia and Assad for security guarantee in Manbij which US forces had MSS in Ayn Dadat and Kobani which US had airstrip there (Kobani Landing Zone) in notorious LaFarge Cement Plant (owned by Holcim).

Btw, LaFarge known to paid ‘taxes’ to Islamic State so they could still operational even when the territory still controlled by IS.
That really depends on whether the US army actually listens to Trump. The Department of Defense is on record admitting that during Trump's last year in office they ignored all of his orders and did their own thing.
 

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That really depends on whether the US army actually listens to Trump. The Department of Defense is on record admitting that during Trump's last year in office they ignored all of his orders and did their own thing.
I remember that lol. Post January 6th event. Quite dangerous move by Gen. Milley tho, really dangerous even. US kind of at autopilot mode after that incursion to Capitol.
 

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yep, it will be Mr. President.
Whatever happen, please just don’t f*cked this world up lol.

Don’t let Russia get arrogant by left Ukraine. Who’s can be sure Putin will stop after land grabbing Ukraine? China would also gonna think that US will be more reluctant in world stage, this case Indo-Pacific, see that US influence absent/less in Ukraine (Europe). If someone think that he gonna be going hard on China, on trade maybe yes, by putting more tariffs to imported Chinese goods that increase its price and reduce the demands, protection measures to US produced goods, but quite bad for US producers that rely to cheaper Chinese raw materials. But on TikTok? He even show his reluctance to Congress TikTok ban. The main idea of that legislation is TikTok would be banned in US if the ownership not changed to American at certain deadline, which TikTok also shows it reluctance to selling it to American.

Israel. They gonna think they can do anything at their will because US care nothing about Palestinians. Is this bad? Sure. It would potentially create bad precedent to US by letting Israel invade their fellow Arabs and Muslims, not even a flinch from US responding the humanitarian catastrophe by Israel. Palestinian state? What is that? If you see this time already because innocent civilians are killed whatever the reasons, are their tolerated non-combatant killed (non-combatant casualty value) or Israel just too trigger happy, I expect Trump presidency gonna be worse.
 

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Whatever happen, please just don’t f*cked this world up lol.

Don’t let Russia get arrogant by left Ukraine. Who’s can be sure Putin will stop after land grabbing Ukraine? China would also gonna think that US will be more reluctant in world stage, this case Indo-Pacific, see that US influence absent/less in Ukraine (Europe). If someone think that he gonna be going hard on China, on trade maybe yes, by putting more tariffs to imported Chinese goods that increase its price and reduce the demands, protection measures to US produced goods, but quite bad for US producers that rely to cheaper Chinese raw materials. But on TikTok? He even show his reluctance to Congress TikTok ban. TikTok would be banned in US if the ownership not changed to American at certain deadline, which TikTok also shows it reluctance to selling it to American.

Israel. They gonna think they can do anything at their will because US care nothing about Palestinians. Is this bad? Sure. It would potentially create bad precedent to US by letting Israel invade their fellow Arabs and Muslims, not even a flinch from US responding the humanitarian catastrophe by Israel. Palestinian state? What is that? If you see this time already because innocent civilians are killed whatever the reasons, are their tolerated non-combatant killed (non-combatant casualty value) or Israel just too trigger happy, I expect Trump presidency gonna be worse.
those thing happen because lack of sanction under US, the response is too mild.
 

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those thing happen because lack of sanction under US, the response is too mild.
You believe Trump presidency will put sanctions to Israel? Israeli from broad political spectrums more inclined to him because they knew Trump would not gonna put sanctions or any hardships to Israel. More or full hands off by US in Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

“They’re not on our side. They let people like us gets killed without even condemning it”, say goodbye to Muslim world for US, and shift the blame to Democrats. Yes, he and his son-in-law quite influential for Abraham Accords, but that were quite an elitists move and not resonating wider common everyday Joe Arabs and Muslims.
 

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You believe Trump presidency will put sanctions to Israel? Israeli from broad political spectrums more inclined to him because they knew Trump would not gonna put sanctions or any hardships to Israel. More or full hands off by US in Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Now what has Democrats done? They let it out spiraling out of control, like in the southern lebanon, and dragging into Israel-Iranian conflict, houthis rampage on the red sea.
 

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Kinda only just started following it now after work, but yeah, intesting that Trump seems so ahead. Only 50%-ish counted, but at least CBS seems to think once the dust settles it's going Trump's way.

Their analysis seems to be that Latinos went for the D-Man in larger proportion all across the board in all the states that matter, that basically makes sense to me. Guess the Puerto Rico comments didn't make much of a dent and were outweighed by all the social stuff the Democrats have been pulling that doesn't jive so well with a pretty conservative religious group like Latinos. As soon as the polling a few weeks back was all "he's got more black people and latino people than 2016" that threw me a bit, seemed big.

Still a bit surprised though, honestly figured Kamala would edge this one out, women & young people coming out over the abortion stuff. Still, I guess if you're losing a share of men and latinos/black people simultaneously, that could be cancelled out.

In any case, a Trump win's about the *funniest* possible scenario here I guess, that's about the best you can hope for when both candidates are such non-serious lightweights not up to the job. The world will keep spinning, we're not getting a Fourth Reich USA and Florida Auschwitz, life goes on. Watch all the "the country's literally over if he wins!" hyperbole just absolutely evaporate come tomorrow.
 

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