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You are really suspicious 🤔

He has a point i guess. They won't risk losing the only chance for a corridor into Kurdish controlled zones. And i don't think HTS's offensive is merely self-organized. Someone helped these guys greatly for the offensive, planned it in a greater level, studied / gathered intelligence on Assad's ground. Now wonder Hums will fall as a result and US&Israel will get the only excuse for a buffer zone spanning through the souther border, securing oil wells and a possibly pipeline, and port.

And i also won't get surprised for HTS to turn to west once conquered sufficient land, seeking funds to rebuild, western sources already have started to refer them as moderate muslims.
 

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The Chinese national television station is crying hahaha

They still ordered Assad to defend Hama in any cost
 

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With the rebel take-over of Syria, Turkiye is also entering dangerous waters. Turkiye would likely want to move its military closer to Israel to liberate Palestine at some point. entering this game will put Turkiye directly face to face with the west.
Why should or would Türkiye do that,why not the Arabs?
 

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He has a point i guess. They won't risk losing the only chance for a corridor into Kurdish controlled zones. And i don't think HTS's offensive is merely self-organized. Someone helped these guys greatly for the offensive, planned it in a greater level, studied / gathered intelligence on Assad's ground. Now wonder Hums will fall as a result and US&Israel will get the only excuse for a buffer zone spanning through the souther border, securing oil wells and a possibly pipeline, and port.
Your answer lies in the answer to the question ''who bombed the shit out of the Iraqi militia enforcement entering Syrian territory?'' i guess.
They will make a reverse half moon or boomerang shaped territory for the PKK/YPG/SDF spanning from Kobani to Raqqah then south along the Jordanian border to Israel protected by the US/Israel GCC and Europe.
Yes even the GCC will be in on it,they fear us more then they fear Iran.
This is why we have to clear the 30 km territory of these rats on our Southern border before its done and be ready for anything else but with this government its impossible.
If they succeed they will have the means to finance and build a real PKK Armed Forces with fighter jets and the rest provided by the US/Israel and Europe.
 
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I've been watching the events live through twitter since it's start, and all i gotta say is that we are celebrating too early regarding HTS gaining all this territory.

For some reason no group is touching YPG militias and let them fallback, Israel is getting ready to create a corridor in Golan Heights, USA-YPG coalition is getting ready to capture Khashem Pocket, meanwhile we are sleeping and celebrating the advancements of HTS WHICH is not hostile to YPG.

Did Assad bring this on himself by not negotiating with us? Yes, but this situation is not in our favor, if the said corridor gets united with Israel, we are really fucked there is no other explanation for that. Good luck attacking YPG who has direct support of both Israel and US in the region.

Current live map:
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Okay, now let's look at this map, would this corridor be possible to achieve under a strong Syrian Rejime with Russian and Iranian back-up? No.
Where are we now? Regime just lost Hama, the rebels are moving towards Damascus slowly, and USA with YPG attacking Khashem Pocket which is very important location for Iranian backed militias, once that is gone, what's next? To fully cut Iranian access into Syria from Iraq border, how will they achieve this? Look at the above map.

This could be all wrong, but if we wear our tinfoil hats and get into "what if" zone, and if this actually end up happening, we are royally fucked.

I'm not even mentioning ISIS suddenly announcing them capturing territories, does that look/sound similar to you? How did YPG end up capturing so much territory back then? BY FIGHTING the ISIS, imagine where this could lead.

Just to be clear, i am in no support of Regime, all i'm trying to say is we should finally stop being cowards(politically) and take the necessary precautions before it's too late.
 

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Time to share my 2 cents: I only care about getting rid of YPG, they hold on the very few population centers and some important oil resources. Thats where we should go with the SNA. Hope Tayyip can work something out with Trump, but with his cabinet it looks like it wont be easy.
 

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It's hard to imagine SDF holding all of the land in the south in the long term even if they do end up taking it. There is no Kurdistan to be created in those regions with the Kurdish population being so low in those regions as far as I know. The Kurdish minority is significant only in some areas in the north, which are directly assaultable by Turkish military.
 

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I've been watching the events live through twitter since it's start, and all i gotta say is that we are celebrating too early regarding HTS gaining all this territory.

For some reason no group is touching YPG militias and let them fallback, Israel is getting ready to create a corridor in Golan Heights, USA-YPG coalition is getting ready to capture Khashem Pocket, meanwhile we are sleeping and celebrating the advancements of HTS WHICH is not hostile to YPG.

Did Assad bring this on himself by not negotiating with us? Yes, but this situation is not in our favor, if the said corridor gets united with Israel, we are really fucked there is no other explanation for that. Good luck attacking YPG who has direct support of both Israel and US in the region.

Current live map:
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Okay, now let's look at this map, would this corridor be possible to achieve under a strong Syrian Rejime with Russian and Iranian back-up? No.
Where are we now? Regime just lost Hama, the rebels are moving towards Damascus slowly, and USA with YPG attacking Khashem Pocket which is very important location for Iranian backed militias, once that is gone, what's next? To fully cut Iranian access into Syria from Iraq border, how will they achieve this? Look at the above map.

This could be all wrong, but if we wear our tinfoil hats and get into "what if" zone, and if this actually end up happening, we are royally fucked.

I'm not even mentioning ISIS suddenly announcing them capturing territories, does that look/sound similar to you? How did YPG end up capturing so much territory back then? BY FIGHTING the ISIS, imagine where this could lead.

Just to be clear, i am in no support of Regime, all i'm trying to say is we should finally stop being cowards(politically) and take the necessary precautions before it's too late.

Assad wouldnt come to the table. If he doesnt come to table its no good using the rebels to hit the pkk first because assad, iran, russia and the usa would attack them. So they went after Assad first, bring him to the table get the required agreement then turn attention onto the pkk. We are going to see very soon exactly what the agenda taking place is.

Either way the opportunity to break all the plots taking place in syria is in front of us.
 

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The Southern SDF areas are majority Arab and dont care much about YPG and their ideology. But you know being on the good side of the US has its benefits for them.
 

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I always said in the past that Russia was the weak link, take them out the game and leave the americans on their own with the PKK. You create that situation they wont risk war with Turkiye because they will lose both Turkiye and their PKKistan. The americans will not be able to stop Turkiye from sweeping those positions in the north and if they attack then we seperate from them and things in the middle east becomes a thousand times more difficult for their child isreal.

They need our passivity to succeed long term.

Keep in mind people that we are in a window of great opportunity. The assadists, iranians got f'ked by Isreal recently. The Russians are burying themselves head first in Ukraine. If something had to happen, it had to happen now.

If all fails with Assad and no agreement takes place, then at the very last moment before the window closes the Turkish military must intervene in the north. Make it a full sweep.
 
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go ahead keep attacking Assad and weaken him soon you will see Israel knockings the door from the south while PKK from north they will connect in middle where American are. 3-4 month ago admiral cihat yayci warn this may happen watch the video that i have uploaded
Wow! pkk could attack us and Israel is no more friendly to us. Is that what you fear?
 

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Trump said it in his first terms:
Kurds didn't fight for USA in Normandy and Kurds only fight bravely when F-18 are flying above.
Captured area so far ius bigger than whole Cyprus, almost as big as Ankara province.
Plenty of land to relocate Syrian refugees into.
Togther with decreasing inflation better times are on the horizon for Turkish people.
Commander-in-Chief, the only commander to have expanded into Misak-ı Millî did really well.
 

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He has a point i guess. They won't risk losing the only chance for a corridor into Kurdish controlled zones. And i don't think HTS's offensive is merely self-organized. Someone helped these guys greatly for the offensive, planned it in a greater level, studied / gathered intelligence on Assad's ground. Now wonder Hums will fall as a result and US&Israel will get the only excuse for a buffer zone spanning through the souther border, securing oil wells and a possibly pipeline, and port.

And i also won't get surprised for HTS to turn to west once conquered sufficient land, seeking funds to rebuild, western sources already have started to refer them as moderate muslims.
I dont think that Israel is willing to open another frontline. Lets wait.
 

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Trump said it in his first terms:
Kurds didn't fight for USA in Normandy and Kurds only fight bravely when F-18 are flying above.
Captured area so far ius bigger than whole Cyprus, almost as big as Ankara province.
Plenty of land to relocate Syrian refugees into.
Togther with decreasing inflation better times are on the horizon for Turkish people.
Commander-in-Chief, the only commander to have expanded into Misak-ı Millî did really well.

There is a good chance that asena is right about what is taking place right now. Right now I'm still 50/50, either were being f'ked by a erdogan a guy who once openly declared he was working for the greater middle east, or we've found a window of opportunity to force our will onto the region. I suspect all will become clear fairly soon.
 

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Turkey's Preparations for an Operation Against the Kurds
As we reported following the beginning of the militants' offensive and the fall of Aleppo, the Turks were preparing to enter into direct conflict with the Kurdish "Syrian Democratic Forces" to resolve their own objectives. Initially, they employed the militants of the "Syrian National Army" (SNA) for this purpose.
However, the Turkish-controlled units attempted to attack the SDF's defensive lines in the Manbij direction several times, but each time unsuccessfully. And yesterday, there was even unconfirmed information about battles in the area of the Kweires airfield, meaning the Kurds counterattacked and were successful.
Against the backdrop of the failures of Turkish proxies, the likelihood of the deployment of Turkish troops is increasing. It is indicative how actively the Turks have recently been striking SDF positions, using both artillery and UAVs, which hit both the rear and front-line objects of the Kurds.
Over the past two days, 30 drones ("Bayraktar", "Akıncı", "Aksungur" and "Anka") have been observed operating along the border line, and the bulk of them flew in the area of Manbij and Ain al-Arab, which the Russian and Syrian servicemen left.
Given the removal of the front line to Homs and the approach of HTS militants to Latakia, the Turkish authorities are well aware that they should not expect obstacles from the Syrian government and the Russian contingent - there are more important problems there.
Therefore, we do not exclude such a scenario that, against the background of all the turmoil and total destabilization, the Turkish authorities will try to resolve long-standing issues with the Kurds. But even with such chaos, one should not expect inaction from the Kurds. The Turks have been trying to do this for many years, but each time they returned empty-handed.
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Key Points Translated:
* Turkey's Plans: Turkey has been preparing for a direct confrontation with the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).
* Failed Attempts: Turkish-backed forces have previously tried and failed to attack SDF positions, especially around Manbij.
* Increased Turkish Activity: Turkey has been stepping up its attacks on SDF targets using drones and artillery.
* Potential for Turkish Ground Intervention: Given the current situation, including the withdrawal of Russian and Syrian forces from certain areas, Turkey may see an opportunity to launch a ground offensive against the SDF.
* Kurdish Resistance: Despite the challenges, the Kurds are expected to resist any Turkish attack.
 
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There has already been Turkish shelling of Northern Syria today. However after Mambic, Raqqa will most likely be the next target along the southern border of the river. So it is most likely true that Russians are emptied northern Syria in order not to be encircled there.
The best description I can give of Turkey as a country is like having a girlfriend with a bipolar disorder if NATO or Russia were the BFs.
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