Live Conflict Syria Civil War

[Asena_great]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865686072010686969

LOL how not so unexpected ??



@Corvus @Joe mark @Huelague @Agha Sher @Oublious where are you people who told me when assad is gone then HTS will invite turkey and you will kick PKK from north east ?? are you decvied agian like fetö ??

 

[Khagan1923]

As I said arab tribes are slowly revolting against sdf/ypg rule. sdf has no real future in syria, an organization whose leadership is made up by pkk trained turkish and iraqi kurds will see itself be purged very fast without any real support by the US. A lot of these tribes in the east and north also have grievances due to war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by kurdish militants. sdf now trying to act as if they were also pro revolution and pro rebels and anti-assad is hilarious.

Just days ago they were shaking hands with assadists in a plan to help them by attacking rebels-held regions and taking over former assad held regions to stop the advancement of the SNA/FSA and HTS.

 

[Khagan1923]

LOL how not so unexpected ??



@Corvus @Joe mark @Huelague @Agha Sher @Oublious where are you people who told me when assad is gone then HTS will invite turkey and you will kick PKK from north east ?? are you decvied agian like fetö ??

The US won't make any policy changes while they are in a transition phase. Any decision taken by Biden Administration right now will be attacked. These statements are 0815 standard procedure. Of course we can't trust Trump but the likelyhood of Americans troops staying in Syria after this is low especially if sdf slowly loses control of the arab and turkmen tribes it supposedly is "allied" with.

Do not forget Americans were saying they would never abandon Afghan and the Afghan government just to leave Afghanistan in a matter of 24 hours and hand it over to the taliban.

 

[Oublious]

LOL how not so unexpected ??



@Corvus @Joe mark @Huelague @Agha Sher @Oublious where are you people who told me when assad is gone then HTS will invite turkey and you will kick PKK from north east ?? are you decvied agian like fetö ??

lol

i never wrote something like that, go back to sleep or take your medicine.

 

[SilverMachine]

Apparently Iran dispatched two planes of Guard guys in a last-ditch attempt to save the mustachioed butcher, Israel threatened to shoot them down (unknown if they were intercepted at close range, or more just a general "we see you, turn back or we're coming in") and they turned heel to flee back home. Fun.

U.S. and Israel alike saying they tracked/saw Assad's plane headed toward a Rooskie base inside Syria (you'd figure with the intention of jumping to Moscow), but seems unclear what happened from there, even if he landed there safely or otherwise.

 

[dBSPL]

The SNA, which did not leave the front line despite all Russian air strikes, entered the centre of Munbic.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865689516813541453

 

[Asena_great]

The US won't make any policy changes while they are in a transition phase. Any decision taken by Biden Administration right now will be attacked. These statements are 0815 standard procedure. Of course we can't trust Trump but the likelyhood of Americans troops staying in Syria after this is low especially if sdf slowly loses control of the arab and turkmen tribes it supposedly is "allied" with.

Do not forget Americans were saying they would never abandon Afghan and the Afghan government just to leave Afghanistan in a matter of 24 hours and hand it over to the taliban.

that is not going to happen

Of course we can't trust Trump but the likelyhood of Americans troops staying in Syria after this is low especially

on the contrary the reasons they may leave was because assad was on power and if we made it expensive for them now they will stay because it is cheaper to maintain YPG and by the looks of Trump's officials i can guarantee you they will stay

if sdf slowly loses control of the arab and turkmen tribes it supposedly is "allied" with.

im not sure they will rebel if they have better life under YPG with oil money ( you could have make them rebel via financial and water crisis ) and even if they rebel western media will simply say they are isis and YPG fighting isis

Do not forget Americans were saying they would never abandon Afghan and the Afghan government just to leave Afghanistan in a matter of 24 hours and hand it over to the taliban

afghanistan is a mountainous country and and Taliban put them on constant pressure via guerilla warfare and they didn't had oil money to reduce the costs it was net dead weight unlike Afghanistan here is flat land they have PKK doing the hard work and now they have even more oil money. beside Kurdistan plays a key role on long term security of israel. in afghanistan USA didnt had such objectives

Edit : beside even when taliban took over their regime didnt recognized by west and rest of the world jolani will have the same problem as well as rebuilding syria requires serious money which can only provided by west. americans can provide solutions for both of these problem and they can demand at very least autonomy for PKK in the north east

 

[dBSPL]

Münbic liberated. Deir ez-Zor is next, then Raqqa. Then a tense march towards Hasakah will begin, which will wear nerves to the limit. The people are fed up with the pkk, the regime's little puppy dog pkk has no equivalent in the people. The statements from the US are a psychological warfare effort, but they will leave as they came. After the change of mandate in the WH, many of these cadres will not exist anyway

 

[GoatsMilk]

that is not going to happen


on the contrary the reasons they may leave was because assad was on power and if we made it expensive for them now they will stay because it is cheaper to maintain YPG and by the looks of Trump's officials can can guarantee you they will stay


im note sure they will rebel if they have better life under YPG with oil money ( you could have make them rebel via financial and water crisis ) and even if they rebel western media will simply say they are isis and YPG fighting isis


afghanistan is a mountainous country and and Taliban put them on constant pressure via guerilla warfare and they didn't had oil money to reduce the costs it as net dead weight unlike Afghanistan here is flat land they have PKK doing the hard work and now they have even more oil money. beside Kurdistan plays a key role on long term security of israel afghanistan USA didnt had such objectives

With Assad in power in reality there was nothing that could have been done. Even all the talks in the background was that he looking to cut a deal with the USA/Isreal to save his own arse. Had that happened i guarantee a condition would have been autonomy in the north. Had he been brought back into the fold and accepted by the west our position would have become even worse.

We all know Syria was a massive fiasco from day one, AK party played it like fools. But without going over all of it again. Right now the rebels need to reclaim control of the country, then we will see the reality of what's transpired.

If the rebels start accommodating the pkk, basically following greater middle east agenda then we will now 100% that Turkiye has indeed been f'ked. However, if we start seeing movements against the PKK, we start seeing arabs tribes breaking away from them. Then we too will know the outcome.

But whatever happens the americans, russians will do everything they can to protect their pkk state. So if the arabs do move against the PKK, we got to be ready for the americans to attack them and for their media to ramp up the isis narrative again.

 

[Asena_great]

With Assad in power in reality there was nothing that could have been done. Even all the talks in the background was that he looking to cut a deal with the USA/Isreal to save his own arse. Had that happened i guarantee a condition would have been autonomy in the north. Had he been brought back into the fold and accepted by the west our position would have become even worse.

We all know Syria was a massive fiasco from day one, AK party played it like fools. But without going over all of it again. Right now the rebels need to reclaim control of the country, then we will see the reality of what's transpired.

If the rebels start accommodating the pkk, basically following greater middle east agenda then we will now 100% that Turkiye has indeed been f'ked. However, if we start seeing movements against the PKK, we start seeing arabs tribes breaking away from them. Then we too will know the outcome.

But whatever happens the americans, russians will do everything they can to protect their pkk state. So if the arabs do move against the PKK, we got to be ready for the americans to attack them and for their media to ramp up the isis narrative again.

let us hop for the best we talking here wont change anything for we are not the policy makers. i hop you are right and in comeing days we see finally and end to the civil war as well as end of PKK in north east

 

[dBSPL]

Assad actually lost this war in the Idlib defeat in 2020. He pulled Turkiye completely into the field, I mean, entire field in Syria. That's why I wrote before that a huge monument should be built where our 34 martyrs were vilely massacred by the Russians. The needle turned exactly there.

The forces that succeeded in the revolution in Syria did so thanks to Turkiye, and those who turn their backs on Turkiye's sensitivities cannot survive there, this is now a reality. This is the new reality that RTE is talking about. The PKK cannot continue its land seizure through oppression and cruelty. Let Assad be an example to all.

There is also this, I wrote to a friend before, during this process we will be under the crossfire of a major psychological operation on two axes. Therefore, nerves will be very frayed. But we need to remain calm.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Assad actually lost this war in the Idlib defeat in 2020. He pulled Turkiye completely into the field, I mean, entire field in Syria. That's why I wrote before that a huge monument should be built where our 34 martyrs were vilely massacred by the Russians. The needle turned exactly there.

The forces that succeeded in the revolution in Syria did so thanks to Turkiye, and those who turn their backs on Turkiye's sensitivities cannot survive there, this is now a reality. This is the new reality that RTE is talking about. The PKK cannot continue its land seizure through oppression and cruelty. Let Assad be an example to all.

I remember the atmosphere of that event. Russians murdered our troops, meanwhile the EU/US were threatening not to do anything. The media for years had also been hyping up Russian power and especially their air defence power. The situation looked extremely dangerous. Then this happened.

This pioneering use of drones as the primary strike force basically turned everything on its head. Its crazy to think that just 4 years later we have already made massive leaps in drone tech.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865708974982451614

İki gözümün çiçeği.
SNA in Münbic.

 

[dBSPL]

The end of PKK terrorists who can't run fast

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865704759367221371

boiling frog approach, step by step.

 

[dBSPL]

In Raqqa, the ropes are about to break, the people seem to have gained a lot of courage. If the pkk will be stupid enough to opens fire on civilians in this situation, they will be signing their death warrant.

 

[Samba]

Can someone explain what happened in 10 days? How the hell did 5 years long status quo changed in 10 days? How did HTS gain so much confidence all of a sudden? Who gave up who, where, why, how? I have so many questions.

 

[Kitra]

Can someone explain what happened in 10 days? How the hell did 5 years long status quo changed in 10 days? How did HTS gain so much confidence all of a sudden? Who gave up who, where, why, how? I have so many questions.

See post #580

 

[dBSPL]

November 15th:

I asked Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler, “What will happen to the FSA if there is a reconciliation with Assad?”

He said, “This is a chance for Assad. What you call the Free Syrian Army today will be the army of the Syrian Republic tomorrow.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856416802886017466

 

[MhhJA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865717292794773935

TURKISH WAR PLANES ARE FLYING EAST OF AL-BAB.