Turkish Military Stance in Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean

[BaburKhan]

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The greek Newspaper Pentapostagma want India to built Bases in Greece.

 

[BaburKhan]

Tayfun and CENK. Two hypersonic missiles that are amongst the most potent weapons of Turkish attack missile armoury.

To hope for anti ship capability seems to be wishful thinking at this stage. I was also hopeful that these missiles would at least have anti ship capable versions. That would make them real game changers. May be there is work being carried out that we are not aware of. There has been a lot of unofficial news about anti ship version of Bora and Tayfun. But nothing concrete has emerged so far.

However at least for Tayfun, Roketsan has shared the guidance system as GOLIS. That is Go Onto Location In Space, shortened.
It is a guidance system that specifically targets stationary positions and platforms. So moving ships in the sea will not be Tayfun’s target unless a new version is also being developed.
Cenk being the big brother of Tayfun and being developed as a follow on missile, it having anti ship capability will be too optimistic.

Kara Atmaca with its “guestimated” 450 to 500 km range is the current anti ship missile that will keep enemy ships away from our coasts. That is until a Ramjet version of Atmaca becomes a reality. Since ramjet engined Gökhan a2a missile’s natural and logical successor is bound to be an anti ship ramjet powered missile.

@Yasar_TR

Before we speak about ASBM it is first important to detect an enemy CSG, we have E-7T, MPA, several Drones, Göktürk I & II EO Satelittes and IMECE and will launch Göktürk III SAR Satelitte in the Space arround 2028 - 30. Space based SAR would help our armed Forces to detect and classifie an enemy CSG Day and Night and under all weather Conditions.

We have Drones that can be equipped with SAR Pods or Radars, but I doubt that the Range of current Systems like MILSAR will be sufficient to spot an enemy CSG from a safe Distance of several hundret Kilometers. We lack on high Altitude ISR UAV's like the Triton or the chinese CH-7 Drone.

OTH Radar can play also an important Role by detect and track an enemy CSG, I don't if turkish Navy have an land based OTH Radar ?

From my Point of View it will be only realistic in an forseeable Timeframe that Turkey could only employ ASBM with a Range up 600 km ! This is in the reach of current AEW&C and other ISR Capabillities.

 

[Yasar_TR]

@Yasar_TR

Before we speak about ASBM it is first important to detect an enemy CSG, we have E-7T, MPA, several Drones, Göktürk I & II EO Satelittes and IMECE and will launch Göktürk III SAR Satelitte in the Space arround 2028 - 30. Space based SAR would help our armed Forces to detect and classifie an enemy CSG Day and Night and under all weather Conditions.

We have Drones that can be equipped with SAR Pods or Radars, but I doubt that the Range of current Systems like MILSAR will be sufficient to spot an enemy CSG from a safe Distance of several hundret Kilometers. We lack on high Altitude ISR UAV's like the Triton or the chinese CH-7 Drone.

OTH Radar can play also an important Role by detect and track an enemy CSG, I don't if turkish Navy have an land based OTH Radar ?

From my Point of View it will be only realistic in an forseeable Timeframe that Turkey could only employ ASBM with a Range up 600 km ! This is in the reach of current AEW&C and other ISR Capabillities.

@BaburKhan ,
Whose carrier strike group you are planning to locate to attack?
Around the world below countries possess these strike groups:
USA,
UK,
France,
Italy,
China,
India.
(Russia only has one carrier that has been out of commission for years)

All of these countries apart from Italy are nuclear powers. First four are in NATO. That leaves China and India. If China or India were to send carrier groups to waters close to us then there is seriously something wrong that affects not just us, but all the other countries listed above.

Countries like USA, China, India, UK, France and Russia, have the tech to destroy and defend satellites in space. South Korea and japan should have this capability too. This is prelude to space wars. One way or another we will have to be prepared to develop this technology too.

Getting back to locating enemy ships, Almost all ships that are deemed as enemy are always tracked. That includes submarines too. Your long range aerial assets that possess radars like Aesa radars can track targets 6-700km away.
Our Gokturk satellites can give you high resolution images of ground and surface of 800km wide at a time. It may take 25 seconds to scan that wide an area. But these satellites can cover 1/3rd area of the earth surface, albeit in slices. To overcome cloud cover and dark areas problem, Synthetic Aperture Radars are the natural solution. But you need to be close to earth and have gigantic dishes in space.

As we are the leading country in drone warfare, extensively using drones for ISR missions should be the way forward to resolve this problem. Our Meltem3 system has a range of 350km. Aksungur too can be used for ISR duties. Meltem3 FLIR can detect surface ships from in excess of 65km. The Ocean Master 400 radar on Meltem3 can detect a submarine periscope from 30 nm and a patrol boat from 90 nm. Add that to the range of Meltem3 aircraft’s operational radius; you have a lot of range to work with.

Unless it is being developed under wraps, AShBM availability is not applicable at the moment. But hypersonic AShBM capability is important and can be a game changer advantage.

 

[BaburKhan]

@BaburKhan ,
Whose carrier strike group you are planning to locate to attack?
Around the world below countries possess these strike groups:
USA,
UK,
France,
Italy,
China,
India.
(Russia only has one carrier that has been out of commission for years)

All of these countries apart from Italy are nuclear powers. First four are in NATO. That leaves China and India. If China or India were to send carrier groups to waters close to us then there is seriously something wrong that affects not just us, but all the other countries listed above.

Countries like USA, China, India, UK, France and Russia, have the tech to destroy and defend satellites in space. South Korea and japan should have this capability too. This is prelude to space wars. One way or another we will have to be prepared to develop this technology too.

Getting back to locating enemy ships, Almost all ships that are deemed as enemy are always tracked. That includes submarines too. Your long range aerial assets that possess radars like Aesa radars can track targets 6-700km away.
Our Gokturk satellites can give you high resolution images of ground and surface of 800km wide at a time. It may take 25 seconds to scan that wide an area. But these satellites can cover 1/3rd area of the earth surface, albeit in slices. To overcome cloud cover and dark areas problem, Synthetic Aperture Radars are the natural solution. But you need to be close to earth and have gigantic dishes in space.

As we are the leading country in drone warfare, extensively using drones for ISR missions should be the way forward to resolve this problem. Our Meltem3 system has a range of 350km. Aksungur too can be used for ISR duties. Meltem3 FLIR can detect surface ships from in excess of 65km. The Ocean Master 400 radar on Meltem3 can detect a submarine periscope from 30 nm and a patrol boat from 90 nm. Add that to the range of Meltem3 aircraft’s operational radius; you have a lot of range to work with.

Unless it is being developed under wraps, AShBM availability is not applicable at the moment. But hypersonic AShBM capability is important and can be a game changer advantage.

I would plan to locate and attack that CSG which want to intervene in turkish sphere of Influence, this include Cyprus, the Aegean and Libya. When I look bach at the Events of the recent Years and France consider Turkey as a Challenge in the easterm Mediterranean. The most likely Confrontation with an Power that operates Aircraft Carrier could occur with France. Italy is also located in the eastern Mediterranean, before some Years they snt an Warship in drilling Zones arround Cyprus. Now the Relations with them are good, but we don't know what the Future bring.

For example Italy have their Interests in Libya, these Interests are Migration and Energy ! We should not underestimate the regional Dynamics, Turkey and Haftar were getting closer and the long term Target will be a united Libya as Partner of Turkey. If this Libya is not in Line with Italys Interests, likely Italy will oppose it and we have to Protect it ! Italy can join Forces with the greek - french Axis and could join their Defence Agreement in Such Case !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1942691362815488153

As long an enemy CSG will Threaten Turkey and Interevene in our Areas of Interests, it will be neccesary to attack it ! In other Way they will deny the Air Superiority to us !

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