was the entire nation sleeping or something?
Also quality of your human capital > everything else; this was a huge intelligence failure as well as a cybersecurity debacle and in those fields training, competence and expertise reign supreme.Imagine that at the beginning of 2022, if you checked any military power ranking, Russia would have been high above Israel, and Iran would be above Ukraine.
Now compare that to the real war situation. Israel has managed in two days to control Iran’s airspace despite being at 1700 km away, while Russia, after three years of fighting, is unable to fly over Ukraine, despite having a border with it.
This proves that quality > quantity in modern war.
This is a conflict that will only ultimately be resolved by the descent of Isa bin Maryam (A.S)Rn, expect more Israeli attacks than ever before
Israel completely compromised Iran's Air Defence systems and managed to deal a heavy blow to lots of its missile launchers. If you couple that with the fact that Iran is quite large with lots of important sites spread out across the land to protect, it is no-brainer that Israeli jets are flying over Iranian airspace for more than 2.5 hours
What a joke Iran has become.
However, the recent events clearly dictated that Israel will never allow any nation in the middle east to possess nuclear weapons no matter what as it means the potential end for the jewish state. Therefore, if Iran falls, then Turkey is next on the list 100%. Erdogan reiterated his desire for nuclear weapons several times before and looking at what happened to Iran, I hope Turkey prepares itself for the day when it gets to fight Israel militarily, since at the end of the day, the greatest enemies for the Israelis in the region arent the Iranians or the Arabs but the Turks
I still remember Natenyahu stating 3 days ago that he will do the impossible to prevent the rise of a new Ottoman empire; i-e, hinting that he will never allow Turkey to grow above a certain limit which further legitimise the idea that Turkey is the next on the list after Iran
What concerns me the most is the espionage activities of Israel, not their airforce. We can build air defence systems, radars; lets say we can protect them to some degree from aircraft attacks. But what if in case of a conflict there are some sleeping agents, some traitors (you all know whom I am referring to) already in our country, or some truck loaded with spike nlos, small uavs controlled by satellites; how can we protect them?
I couldnt sleep well last night because of that question. I hope our people in charge are aware of that grave danger
The "leaders" taking in millions of unwanted people should have thought about that, I saw the writing on the wall the same day I heard the news that we take them all in.What concerns me the most is the espionage activities of Israel, not their airforce. We can build air defence systems, radars; lets say we can protect them to some degree from aircraft attacks. But what if in case of a conflict there are some sleeping agents, some traitors (you all know who I am referring to) already in our country, or some truck loaded with spike nlos, small uavs controlled by satellites; how can we protect them?
I couldnt sleep well last night because of that question. I hope our people in charge are aware of that grave danger
What concerns me the most is the espionage activities of Israel, not their airforce. We can build air defence systems, radars; lets say we can protect them to some degree from aircraft attacks. But what if in case of a conflict there are some sleeping agents, some traitors (you all know who I am referring to) already in our country, or some truck loaded with spike nlos, small uavs controlled by satellites; how can we protect them?
We are in absolutely no way comparable to Iran, and Turks are in no way comparable to Iranians. Second of allBut why are you worried about a potential war with Israel? You are in NATO, so Israel will not attack you. Why not be friends with Israel, like the Saudis are doing?
It’s easy to be safe from Israel. As long as you are in good relations with them, there is nothing to worry about.
But if you get to the point where they want to attack you, then no amount of defense will save you. They have proven time and time again that they are extremely effective in supressing enemy defenses. Better just to get along well with them. Much safer and much easier.
I dont want to be that direct but I have to say: You have no idea whatsoever about Turkiye and about Israel.But why are you worried about a potential war with Israel? You are in NATO, so Israel will not attack you. Why not be friends with Israel, like the Saudis are doing?
It’s easy to be safe from Israel. As long as you are in good relations with them, there is nothing to worry about.
But if you get to the point where they want to attack you, then no amount of defense will save you. They have proven time and time again that they are extremely effective in supressing enemy defenses. Better just to get along well with them. Much safer and much easier.
We are in absolutely no way comparable to Iran, and Turks are in no way comparable to Iranians. Second of all
our interests mostly clash with theirs.
But Türkiye is already strong and only gets stronger, so your point is already debunked. Listen closely, the day that Türkiye will have his OWN 5th Gen Jet in numbers will be a very bad day for the people/countries that have their eyes on Türkiye.I never implied you are comparable to Iran, but this doesn’t mean that a war with Israel would not be very bad for your country. Israel has the baking of the US, so fighting them is not something to be desired.
This happens all the time in geopolitics, but this doesn’t mean you have to reach a point where conflict is on the table. I mean, your interests clashed with the US many times in Syria, yet you are allied with them through NATO.
As far as the Middle East go, the only solution to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel. Because if Israel sees you as a threat, it will work against you to destroy you. The Gulf countries seems to have realized this reality, and they are clearly willing to normalize relations with Israel, in order to be safe.
I don’t think there is any bright future as an adversary of Israel.
There are a lot to be said, like they have to fight somewhere, they dont want any country that capable of defend themselves in this region, their current leadership consist of bunch of fanatics and fundamentalist...