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But from this, strike version is the 10th unit, and this one year (it's tweet from a year ago) I don't think it's ready to transfer in short time.

He just used the image from the 10th ship(which is Istif 6, Milgem numbers also count Ada class ships) ceremony. All Istif class ships excluding the first ship Istanbul have the strike length MIDLAS. This is 516, second ship.

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Is this true?

"I confirmed it. İzmir (F-516) and İçel (F-518) were sold to Indonesia. İzmit (F-517) will be delivered to the Turkish Naval Forces."

In my opinion, that's the case. Indonesia wouldn't order a ship if it hadn't been produced yet and would collaborate with a local shipyard if it were to be produced.

otherwise it will take quite a long time like FMP case to declare that Indonesia has purchased the ship

We call it "begal" :), Like PPA case

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The photo shows hull numbers 516 and 517. Why would they display two numbers if they weren't for Indonesia? The first hull number, 515, would suffice.
 
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That guy is not in a place to "confirm" anything.
Is it true Midlas in Istanbul is Tactical version and F516 above is Strike version and above is strike version?
Because one 516 and 517, their VLS seems to be taller?
Why 515 different?
 

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Is it true Midlas in Istanbul is Tactical version and F516 above is Strike version and above is strike version?
Because one 516 and 517, their VLS seems to be taller?
Why 515 different?
Yes. Design change during class construction. There was no MIDLAS when Istif design was finalized and then updated about 7-8 years ago. It was supposed to be Mk41. It was first updated to MIDLAS and then updated to a larger height MIDLAS we unofficially dub the strike length because of Gezgin. Strike length MIDLAS is 8 meters tall, larger than any other in western navies. Istif Class wasn't designed with such a VLS in mind hence the rather ugly protrusion on the hull.

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He just used the image from the 10th ship(which is Istif 6, Milgem numbers also count Ada class ships) ceremony. All Istif class ships excluding the first ship Istanbul have the strike length MIDLAS. This is 516, second ship.

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Yes. Design change during class construction. There was no MIDLAS when Istif design was finalized and then updated about 7-8 years ago. It was supposed to be Mk41. It was first updated to MIDLAS and then updated to a larger height MIDLAS we unofficially dub the strike length because of Gezgin. Strike length MIDLAS is 8 meters tall, larger than any other in western navies. Istif Class wasn't designed with such a VLS in mind hence the rather ugly protrusion on the hull.

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Bigger Midlas to accommodate Atmaca and cruise missile?
 

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Bigger Midlas to accommodate Atmaca and cruise missile?
Mainly Gezgin cruise missile. Both Atmaca and the longer land attack variant Kara Atmaca should be fine on regular tactical length VLS; they come at 5 and 6 meters. But that's just my guess, we haven't yet seen the vertical launched Atmaca, maybe it will have a longer booster.
 

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Mainly Gezgin cruise missile. Both Atmaca and the longer land attack variant Kara Atmaca should be fine on regular tactical length VLS; they come at 5 and 6 meters. But that's just my guess, we haven't yet seen the vertical launched Atmaca, maybe it will have a longer booster.
wondering if Turkiye allow sell Gezgin cruise missile to Indonesia? or limited by the current world rules that don't make sense (MTCR)
 

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Mainly Gezgin cruise missile. Both Atmaca and the longer land attack variant Kara Atmaca should be fine on regular tactical length VLS; they come at 5 and 6 meters. But that's just my guess, we haven't yet seen the vertical launched Atmaca, maybe it will have a longer booster.
I hope FMP use full 64 midlas strike for better capabilities
 

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As far as i know Fmp planed to use regular tactical midlas not strike version becouse it only houseing atmaca and hisar no gezgin idk if there any changes though
 

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As far as i know Fmp planed to use regular tactical midlas not strike version becouse it only houseing atmaca and hisar no gezgin idk if there any changes though
But how about siper block 2 ?
 
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