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[Iskander]

Well, this is their majestatic game plan against the air force combo of Greece and Israel. As also backed by ex-colonel morons with a stick at hand on TV, 200 TB2 and 50 Akinci in our inventory will ensure that we prevail!

But seriously, to those of you defending these rubbish tin cans, pls wake up. we need serious killer machines in a war we dont need big, slow birds waiting to be shut down. Those are too expensive for the little utility they provide. Ukraine drones and Israeli Harpy drones much more useful.

Sorry, I disagree with your opinion. These seemingly fragile devices have already dramatically changed the situation in several conflicts.
Moreover, altitude alone gives a huge advantage to those who own even these "tin-bottom" drones. Imagine, 65-ton tanks are often completely helpless under the blows of their "funny bombs" MAM-L...
These UAVs are capable of launching missiles up to 250 km (!). And that's already very serious.

You know, in 2008, during the war with Georgia, the Russians, lacking UAVs, sent this 42-meter, 120-ton behemoth on reconnaissance—a strategic supersonic missile carrier costing $100 million.

The Georgians shot it down. The crew was captured.
However, after this disgrace, the Russians never indulged in such stupidity again. Obviously, UAVs have their advantages, and manned ones have theirs.

 

[AlperTunga]

I dont think we need 200 TB2 for reconnaissance etc. It is insane we paid 1 billion for them. We wont be fighting Armenia the next time. Our next adversaries will be much more capable. We need serious stuff. Both the son-in-law and Haluk Görgün need to wake up from their dreams. Still no progress in our fighter jet procurement. The last thing I heard was that those undecided, visionless officials are begging now Qatar to buy their EFs. Amazing. But we are lucky that our enemies are afraid of our shadow. At least we have some positive legacy from the Ottomans!

 

[Oublious]

 

[Tornadoss]

I think this is the reason why the don't drop bombs from IWBs first.

Bomb Drops Gone Wrong!

What goes down sometimes comes back up.

www.military.com

Anka-3 already did, I don't see a reason why Kizilelma to not do that. I guess by time but it's a slow pace for an UAV which was supposed to be in serial production in 2024.

 

[boredaf]

Anka-3 already did, I don't see a reason why Kizilelma to not do that. I guess by time but it's a slow pace for an UAV which was supposed to be in serial production in 2024.

Anka-3 also dropped from under its wings first mate.

 

[Pokemonte13]

It’s normal alright to first try it under the wings with time it will get better it will take years until Kizilelma is combat ready same with anka

 

[Yasar_TR]

It’s normal alright to first try it under the wings with time it will get better it will take years until Kizilelma is combat ready same with anka

Years is very open ended. 2 to 9 years qualify the statement you’ve made.

If they allocate the right resources, Anka3 will definitely be ready in under 3 years, if not quicker. The only parameter that will hold it back is the TF6000.

KE should follow Anka3 once the TF10000 is ready.

So in reality the ball is in TEI’s court. The quicker they provide the engines the quicker these planes can be operational.

Although these are the first trials to see if the planes can perform as envisaged by the designers, and these firings are governed by the Circular Error Probable laws; Tolun hitting the bulls eye in it’s first Anka3 IWB firing is very heartening. Well done to all Tusas engineers!

 

[Sanchez]

Finally the high res photos from yesterday's test footage.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1976223848702923004

 

[Zafer]

Once ammunition test is started it will probably go through all the outside ammo and continue with IWB ammo without a break. This also depends on whether the ammo is ready off course. I am guessing we will see completion of tests with available ammo within 3 months.

 

[Huelague]

RSF shoots down Sudan’s third Akinci drone - Military Africa

In the ongoing civil war that has ravaged Sudan since April 2023, the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) have achieved another milestone in their efforts to contest the Sudanese Armed Forces' (SAF) dominance of the skies. On September 13, 2025, RSF air defences brought down a third Baykar Bayraktar...

www.military.africa

If you sell these drones to countries that don’t have a modern airforce and they try to utilise them like modern attack fighters, this is what you get. Even some rebels now have alr defence missiles. Also countries like China can easily supply the AD missiles to these rebels as they would love to see the name of Bayraktar tarnished.

Third Akinci brought down in that area now. We shouldn’t sell these to any “Tom, Dick and Harry”. We should be choosier in supplying these drones. Also there should be specific guidelines about the use of these with regards to where and how.

Two more points. Reputation and advertising.

 

[Sanchez]

Two more points. Reputation and advertising.

People that buy military hardware don't use twitter much. Anyone that looks at it sees what this thing is and isn't.

 

[Sanchez]

It's like WW2 up in this!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1976561395488403707

 

[Zafer]

We will probably see what TB3 is made of before too long as they are quick in deploying it.

 

[Huelague]

People that buy military hardware don't use twitter much. Anyone that looks at it sees what this thing is and isn't.

I cant say what kind of social media military employee use, or if any of that. We can expect that this kind of news will be not escape by the responsible people.

 

[Sanchez]

Italian Air Force and Army chiefs and navy vice chief visited Baykar today, along with a delegation from Leonardo and deputy PM.

LBA is going to hit big.

"Funds of 2.4 billion of €, for the Air Force's new UCAVs program, with €242 million already this year. All the pieces are falling into place, with LBA System ready. Given the amount financed, i think it's the largest allocation founds in European Union on this regard."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1976620430967685507

 

[Oublious]

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1976930467552412129

I wish they would also include how much payload it could carry, it looks rather small.

 

[boredaf]

According to this, 120 kg take-off weight and 25 kg warhead.

MKE’den çift jet motorlu kamikaze İHA: KZ-350

Ateş Serbest-2025’te sergilenen çift jet motorlu kamikaze İHA KZ-350, GPS bağımsız tam otonom navigasyon yetenekleri ve 350 km menzili ile dikkat çekti.

www.defenceturk.net

Better than I expected, lighter than I would've wanted. It could still be very effective if its precision is good; after all, 25 kg of high explosive is nothing to turn your nose up at.

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1976580366438674500

 

[Yasar_TR]

Better than I expected, lighter than I would've wanted. It could still be very effective if its precision is good; after all, 25 kg of high explosive is nothing to turn your nose up at.

Jet engines are not cheap. Then there are two of them here. Couldn’t they find a single engine to fly 120kg to ~350km away at 500km/hr?
I wonder which jet engines they will use to propel this kamikaze UAV?

25k of explosives is not too bad. But then it is about the explosive content in 4 x 155mm artillery shells. This UAV doesn’t look like having a stealthy geometry. Hence susceptible to being intercepted by AD systems quite easily. It is supposed to fly autonomously via visual odometric means to its target without GPS. If that means a form of IIR seeker head in action, again that is expensive.

All of that to convey 25kg of explosives over such a long distance. Would it be worth it?