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A large wave of American airpower is heading toward the Middle East to bolster forces already there as U.S. President Donald Trump considers an attack against Iran. Online flight trackers are showing F-22 Raptors, F-16 Fighting Falcons, E-3 Sentry radar planes and a U-2 Dragon Lady spy plane either in transit across the Atlantic or newly arrived in Europe. In addition, a seventh Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer, the USS Pinckney, has recently deployed to the U.S. Central Command Area of Responsibility (AOR) as well, a U.S. Navy official told us.


Really wonder that is there any relationship between Epstein files with US attack Iran.
 

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Alarge wave of American airpower is heading toward the Middle East to bolster forces already there as U.S. President Donald Trump considers an attack against Iran. Online flight trackers are showing F-22 Raptors, F-16 Fighting Falcons, E-3 Sentry radar planes and a U-2 Dragon Lady spy plane either in transit across the Atlantic or newly arrived in Europe. In addition, a seventh Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer, the USS Pinckney, has recently deployed to the U.S. Central Command Area of Responsibility (AOR) as well, a U.S. Navy official told us.


Really wonder that is there any relationship between Epstein files with US attack Iran.
What will China do?
 

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China has ordered more oil from Saudi Arabia(and maybe Russia).
I think US cannot overthrow the Iran goverment, the result is limited strike(again) or negotiations(again).

US is gonna have 2 carrier strike groups and hundreds of aircraft around Iran pretty soon, not even mentioning Israeli air force, gonna have a force of more than 500 combat aircraft, this is gonna be more than a limited strike.

Main objectives will most likely be, complete destruction of nuclear infrastructure, including support infrastructure, and destruction of missile program, they will probably even target Iran's space program, destruction of air force and navy.
 

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US is gonna have 2 carrier strike groups and hundreds of aircraft around Iran pretty soon, not even mentioning Israeli air force, gonna have a force of more than 500 combat aircraft, this is gonna be more than a limited strike.

Main objectives will most likely be, complete destruction of nuclear infrastructure, including support infrastructure, and destruction of missile program, they will probably even target Iran's space program, destruction of air force and navy.
But this number is not more than the U.S. deployment in Venezuela.
 
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But this number is not more than the U.S. deployment in Venezuela.

huh?

In about a week, US will have 2 carriers, and 15+ destroyers/cruisers, and unknown number of submarines around Iran, and hundreds of aircraft.
Combined force of US and Israel combat fleet will be at 500+ aircraft, this will be the biggest air campaign since Operation Iraqi Freedom.
 

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huh?

In about a week, US will have 2 carriers, and 15+ destroyers/cruisers, and unknown number of submarines around Iran, and hundreds of aircraft.
Combined force of US and Israel combat fleet will be at 500+ aircraft, this will be the biggest air campaign since Operation Iraqi Freedom.
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Iran is much bigger than Iraq.
And, if US declare war, Russia would be benefit.
 

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Looks like Israel fanned the flames for a few months which led to the protests and the killing of thousands of Iranians. But ultimately, I don't think Israel wants a secular government in charge. It will keep dangling the carrot in front of Iranians and let them trip over before anything is done. Iranian regime is very week, but strong enough to supress its people which is good for Israel.

Israel will always win because the formula is simple.

  1. Covertly support Islamists
  2. Support secular nationalist resistance
  3. Insert LGBT and other stupid things into secular resistance online circles, dividing resistance, making it a largely female revolution as men back out
  4. Watch as Islamists absolutely crush their population
  5. Rinse and repeat
A genius recipe for disaster which every majority Muslim nation is susceptible to.

As for US military build up, I think they want to deal a huge blow to Iran's military, but I think it's still favorable for them to keep the current regime, unless they want to make Iran and Israeli ally, in which case they'll replace Islamists with secularists.
 
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So,all of you guys think the US will attack Iran again for Israel?
I am not so sure.
 

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So,all of you guys think the US will attack Iran again for Israel?
I am not so sure.
Who knows. I guess they're thinking more of the aftermath.

Two major concerns for them.

  1. Will it fracture accross ethnic lines? If so, which outside powers will have a piece of the pie?
  2. If it remains whole, would a secular Iran actually be beneficial, or would it be a threat long term?
 

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So,all of you guys think the US will attack Iran again for Israel?
I am not so sure.
The US has already attacked Iran because of Israel and can do so again as many times as Israel wishes. This is obvious.
The vaunted system of checks and balances has proven largely fictitious (at least when it comes to the US and Trump).
This is also obvious.
 

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The US has already attacked Iran because of Israel and can do so again as many times as Israel wishes. This is obvious.
The vaunted system of checks and balances has proven largely fictitious (at least when it comes to the US and Trump).
This is also obvious.
Yes but why no attack untl now,the US has everything ready,no?
 

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Yes but why no attack untl now,the US has everything ready,no?

not everything is ready, they just decided to send 2nd carrier towards Iran, its gonna take about a week

and more aircraft are heading towards Middle East as we speak, this is the biggest military buildup since Iraq war in 2003.
 

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not everything is ready, they just decided to send 2nd carrier towards Iran, its gonna take about a week

and more aircraft are heading towards Middle East as we speak, this is the biggest military buildup since Iraq war in 2003.
So,you think an attack is imminent?
 

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So,you think an attack is imminent?

I highly doubt Iran will give in to Trumps demands, they would have to give up, not just their nuclear program, but also their missile program, which makes up backbone of their national security, we could potentially see strikes as soon as this weekend.
 

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I also believe that an attack is likely. It will probably be the United States’s final major military action in the Middle East before a gradual withdrawal. Over time, the United States is expected to leave the region entirely, as its economic capacity will no longer be sufficient to sustain a long-term presence there.


Donald Trump aims to normalize relations between Israel and regional countries and then disengage from the region.


Of course, this will be a long and gradual process.
 

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Yes but why no attack untl now,the US has everything ready,no?
An attack on Iran may or may not happen. It seems it no longer depends on the Iranian ayatollahs. Additional demands are being placed on Iran during the negotiations.

Remember what happened to the negotiators in Qatar?
They could shoot Iranian Minister Araghchi right at the negotiating table. Or arrest him. If they can arrest the president of a sovereign state (Venezuela), then even more so a minister...

And all because international law no longer applies. Although it was applied selectively before.
Incidentally, Iran has behaved no less brazenly and perfidiously toward some countries. A forgotten episode: in May 1992, negotiations between Azerbaijan and Armenia took place in Tehran, brokered by Iran. A ceasefire was agreed upon. Our then-acting president, Mammadov, had barely left Tehran when he was informed that the Armenians had attacked and occupied Shusha. To our outrage, the Tehran ayatollahs responded that Armenia had not violated the agreement, since Shusha was attacked not by Armenia, but by alleged Karabakh Armenian separatists, with whom no negotiations had been conducted.

These are our "brothers in faith"! :(

If these bearded Tehran ayatollahs were hanged from a crane, hardly anyone in Baku would be too upset.
 

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An attack on Iran may or may not happen. It seems it no longer depends on the Iranian ayatollahs. Additional demands are being placed on Iran during the negotiations.

Remember what happened to the negotiators in Qatar?
They could shoot Iranian Minister Araghchi right at the negotiating table. Or arrest him. If they can arrest the president of a sovereign state (Venezuela), then even more so a minister...

And all because international law no longer applies. Although it was applied selectively before.
Incidentally, Iran has behaved no less brazenly and perfidiously toward some countries. A forgotten episode: in May 1992, negotiations between Azerbaijan and Armenia took place in Tehran, brokered by Iran. A ceasefire was agreed upon. Our then-acting president, Mammadov, had barely left Tehran when he was informed that the Armenians had attacked and occupied Shusha. To our outrage, the Tehran ayatollahs responded that Armenia had not violated the agreement, since Shusha was attacked not by Armenia, but by alleged Karabakh Armenian separatists, with whom no negotiations had been conducted.

These are our "brothers in faith"! :(

If these bearded Tehran ayatollahs were hanged from a crane, hardly anyone in Baku would be too upset.
Lets just wait for the ''attack''.
 
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