Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[Spitfire9]

Anti Zionism is Nazism.

Utter nonsence.

 

[Passenger]

You cant criticise Israel,is that the law?

Fortunally, I can.
I mean, in the US, some Zionist supporters have been attempting to confuse anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism (racism), and try to write it in laws. Many overseas students have been subjected to censorship.

In May 2024, in the wake of a series of high-profile hearings on the rise of antisemitism on college campuses, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the Antisemitism Awareness Act (“AAA”) by a strong and bipartisan 320-91 vote. However, the bill stalled in the Senate. Congressional Republicans have indicated that they would reintroduce and vote on the bill in the newly convened 119th Congress, and now that Republicans have majorities and control of both chambers, it is widely expected that the AAA will pass sometime in 2025.

The AAA directs the U.S. Department of Education to consider the definition and examples of antisemitism promulgated by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (“IHRA”) when enforcing federal antidiscrimination laws, including Title VI, which prohibits discrimination and harassment on the basis of race, color and national origin in federally funded programs and activities. The IHRA’s definition is broad and encompasses both widely accepted forms of antisemitism and more controversial examples of criticism of the state of Israel that some view as infringing on the free speech rights protected by the First Amendment.

Oppose the Antisemitism Awareness Act in Congress

We must act urgently to defend free speech and academic freedom. Stand up for free expression by contacting your legislators urging them to oppose the Antisemitism Awareness Act.

www.fire.org

Zionist supporters have also made significant investments in China for propaganda purposes, but it is clear that such behavior is not welcomed in a non-religious country.

 

[Iskander]

Good point @Iskander !
But you have also to remember that those airfields on the ground have 10 times more layered and complex air defences than any city. To overcome those defences is not a simple task. To Shayrat, the US fired 59 Tomahawk missiles. According to Russian sources 23 hit their targets.
Including UK and French missiles, there were 103 missiles’s fired at Shayrat. Some never made it to shore. But in total 71 missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defences. Even a country like Syria could defend their airbase to a certain degree. US an Israeli air bases would be much better protected.

Among The Airbases you want to destroy lie the aircraft carriers. They are the floating air bases and are even harder to hit. As well as its own AD systems, it has 3 to 4 Arleigh Burke Class destroyers and Virginia Class nuclear subs to defend it. Short of a nuclear strike, it is a bloody hard job to destroy a carrier group.

Russia: Syria air defence intercepted 71 missiles

Reports say US Tomahawk missiles used to target Syria, as UK and France deploy Tornado, Mirage and Rafale jets.

www.aljazeera.com

Even with a multi-layered system, there's no such thing as an impenetrable air defense...

Many sources estimate the number of Iranian missiles at 3,000. Many believe this is a lot. In fact, it's not enough.
If the missiles aren't very accurate, then more must be produced so that quantity becomes... quality! (This is exactly what the Russians are doing, and it applies not only to their missiles.)
You may remember that here, during a discussion of Turkish missile production, when someone mentioned the figure of 400, I suggested increasing it tenfold!
Actually, I felt awkward mentioning "8,000."
Yes, I understand that it's very expensive, but there's a general understanding that nothing is more valuable than a country's security! Especially in these turbulent times, with two major wars raging around us. It's also important to consider that the Turkish Air Force is aging, air defenses are also not strong enough.

There are other methods of penetrating air defenses, such as multiple warheads. I'm not an expert on Iranian missiles or missiles in general, but in my opinion, Iranian missiles have only one warhead. Some of their heavy missiles have warheads weighing a ton or a ton and a half. But what if they were divided into 10-20 parts?! Then the enemy would have to increase the number of anti-aircraft missiles accordingly. And they're expensive.
10-20 kg is usually enough to destroy an aircraft. (A lot depends on accuracy.)
Speaking about the Iranian war, I must say I was very disappointed with the Iranians, even though I had a general idea of their weaponry.

The Iranians are brave, but in the age of technology, in the era of non-contact warfare, that, unfortunately, means little.
The Iranians have a strange understanding of modern warfare.
Israel also has vulnerabilities, for example, its land borders. The attack on Israel on October 7 was precisely such an incident. Incidentally, Iran's decade-long efforts to establish bases in Syria, right on the border with Israel, were no accident.
The ayatollahs, so to speak, were preparing for a classic war

It should be added that not all interstate problems are resolved militarily. There is also diplomacy.
Undoubtedly, today, Iranian politicians who have not yet been assassinated understand that they made a mistake at the very beginning of their so-called revolution: was it worth Iran's while to intervene in the Arab-Israeli conflict?!
Before these militant ayatollahs came to power, Iran was developing at an incredible pace and possessed the best air force in the Middle East. The ayatollahs recklessly began a feud with the United States and very quickly destroyed... their own air force.

What did the ayatollahs achieve? The unification of the Islamic world? How could they have done this, being a Shiite country? This is absurd!

Over the past 47 years, the ayatollahs have made countless mistakes, and today poor iranians is paying for them.

 

[Spitfire9]

Antisemitism... for some Jews includes criticism of or opposition to Zionism and criticism of or opposition to Israel and its actions. No ideology or state should be shielded from criticism or opposition. Some relevant links:

The HRA is, inevitably, not objective in its definition.

What is antisemitism? | IHRA working definition

What is antisemitism? The IHRA working definition helps governments, educators, and institutions identify and counter antisemitism all over the world.

holocaustremembrance.com

The IHRA definition was originally developed to guide research and law enforcement data validation before being used by the IHRA in its work, which includes education about the Holocaust and antisemitism. Adoption of the definition by governments and institutions is often framed as an essential step in efforts to combat antisemitism. In practice, however, the IHRA definition has often been used to wrongly label criticism of Israel as antisemitic, and thus chill and sometimes suppress, non-violent protest, activism and speech critical of Israel and/or Zionism, including in the US and Europe

Human Rights and other Civil Society Groups Urge United Nations to Respect Human Rights in the Fight Against Antisemitism

Dear UN Secretary-General António Guterres and Under Secretary-General Miguel Ángel Moratinos: Our coalition of 60 civil society organizations is writing to you to voice our strong support for the United Nations’ commitment to combatting antisemitism in line with international human rights...

www.hrw.org

If the UN adopts or endorses the IHRA definition, it will embolden governments to restrict legitimate criticism of Israeli government policies, and stifle growing calls for an end to the system of apartheid Israel imposes on Palestinians.

Heba Morayef, Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa, Amnesty International

UN must respect human rights while combatting antisemitism

A civil society coalition penned an open letter to the UN Secretary General.

www.amnesty.org

 

[hugh]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035503643139436906

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035527236867289175

The chimp has cornered himself with his evil war and now there's no way out for him. He will drag the rest of the world into a decade long recession. I just cannot wrap my head around how stupid Americans are. The land of the free my ass. They're the most subjugated nation on earth

 

[Soldier30]

Iran launched ballistic missile strikes of an unknown type on the Israeli cities of Dimona and Arad. Dimona is home to Israel's first nuclear research center, built in 1964 with French assistance. According to Iranian media, the strike on Dimona was a response to the attack on the Iranian nuclear facility in Natanz. The video also shows Israeli air defenses in action; they failed to intercept the Iranian missiles, and an investigation has already been launched. It's worth noting that ballistic missiles are a difficult target for any air defense system. The Iranian missile strikes destroyed buildings in both Israeli cities, causing injuries and deaths.

 

[500]

Utter nonsence.

Anti Zionism means that all peoples have the right to self determination except the Jews.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-covenant-civil-and-political-rights

That's clear Nazism.

 

[500]

Dimona is home to Israel's first nuclear research center,

That's false. Nuclear research center is located 13 kms from Dimona.

Iranian missiles have around 200-300 m accuracy. So they deliberately attacked the civilian town. Like they always do.

 

[Spitfire9]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035503643139436906

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035527236867289175

The chimp has cornered himself with his evil war and now there's no way out for him.

Trump's ego prevents him backing down. He tends to become more aggressive when things go wrong, not that his ego allows him to concede that things are going wrong.

I hope that he finds some other problem to solve where things are more likely to go right so he can forget about Iran and set about arranging his next overseas triumph.

 

[Spitfire9]

Anti Zionism means that all peoples have the right to self determination except the Jews.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-covenant-civil-and-political-rights

That's clear Nazism.

The Zionists appear to believe that their desire for determination of what land constitutes the Jewish state trumps the right of others to determine that they do not want where they live to become part of a Jewish state.

Hitler clearly wanted German-speaking people in adjacent countries to be free to exercise self determination with the help pf Nazi military might (Sudetenland, Austria). Later he chose to attack, conquer and control other countries with no significant German-speaking minority. Just what Zionists would like to see Israel doing - conquer and control foreign lands where there is no significant Jewish population in order to expand the Jewish state.

Where are these Jews being denied self determination? I am aware that there are a lot of people in countries adjacent to Israel being denied self determination. By whom? By Israel.

Do I call Zionists Nazis? Narrow religious sociopaths, perhaps. They appear to have no interest in the welfare of non-Jews.

 

[BaburKhan]

That's false. Nuclear research center is located 13 kms from Dimona.

Iranian missiles have around 200-300 m accuracy. So they deliberately attacked the civilian town. Like they always do.

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It was just a warning Shot from Iran. The Attack was a Message, that next Time we can hit Dimons directly, if Israel continue to attack nuclear Facillities in Iran.

 

[500]

The Zionists appear to believe that their desire for determination of what land constitutes the Jewish state trumps the right of others to determine that they do not want where they live to become part of a Jewish state.

That's false. Zionism never denied any other right to self determination.

Anti Zionism on the other hand denies that basic right to Jews.

Hitler clearly wanted German-speaking people in adjacent countries to be free to exercise self determination with the help pf Nazi military might (Sudetenland, Austria). Later he chose to attack, conquer and control other countries with no significant German-speaking minority.

That's why anti-Zionists are big fans of Hitler.

Just what Zionists would like to see Israel doing - conquer and control foreign lands where there is no significant Jewish population in order to expand the Jewish state.

Israel never started a war.

Where are these Jews being denied self determination?

Anti-Zionism denies that right. Because Zionism is simply a right of Jews to self determination. Nothing else.

 

[Spitfire9]

That's false. Zionism never denied any other right to self determination.

Anti Zionism on the other hand denies that basic right to Jews.


That's why anti-Zionists are big fans of Hitler.

What I said was that Zionists consider their right to determine what land is Israeli superior to the right of others to determine they do not want to be part of Israel. Zionists accord theimselves a right they deny to others. Again, please tell me how Zionists are being denied self determination.

I'm anti-Zionist. I am not a big fan of Hitler. My family in two countries in Europe lived under Nazi occupation from 1940-1945 and was opposed to Nazism. Check the Gestapo files to see what they did to one who spent time as their guest but survived. The other woman taken with her did not survive her stay at Gestapo headquarters. Please do not be so presumptuous as to tell me that I sympathise with Naziional Sozialismus. You know nothing of my political ideas.

Israel never started a war.

What do you call what Israel started 3 weeks ago? You are being ridiculous.

 

[Passenger]

"special military operation", maybe.

 

[satria]

An industrial area in Tel Aviv was razed to the ground by an Iranian missile attack.

 

[Iskander]

Trump's ego prevents him backing down. He tends to become more aggressive when things go wrong, not that his ego allows him to concede that things are going wrong.

I hope that he finds some other problem to solve where things are more likely to go right so he can forget about Iran and set about arranging his next overseas triumph.

What else could Trump have done? He didn't receive the Nobel Peace Prize, and in anger, he renamed the Department of Defense the Department of War.

What was the price of awarding Trump the Nobel Prize?

Meanwhile, Obama received the award just a few months after taking office, before it was clear whether he was a pacifist.

It looks like the war in Iran will spread to other countries... And what if a world war starts! If it hasn't started yet!

I'm no Freud, of course, but it seems to me that Mr. Trump is one of those naive and well-intentioned people who are easily influenced by those around him. And he is surrounded by numerous religious fanatics who wield enormous power.
And not all issues there are decided at the presidential level.

But perhaps at some point Trump will decide to leave Iran alone and turn his attention to Greenland

He's completely unpredictable.

 

[500]

What I said was that Zionists consider their right to determine what land is Israeli superior to the right of others to determine they do not want to be part of Israel.

That's not true. Zionism is simply a right of Jews to self determination, nothing else. I am a Zionist and never felt that I am superior over anyone else.

I'm anti-Zionist. I am not a big fan of Hitler.

* If you believe that Jews have a right to self determination like all other peoples, then you are a Zionist.
* If you believe that Jews don't have a right to self determination unlike all other peoples, then you are a Nazi.

What do you call what Israel started 3 weeks ago? You are being ridiculous.

Iran started proxy war against Israel in 1979.
Iran started direct war against Israel in 2024.

We don't want anything from Iran, we don't need their territory (like Russia wants from Ukraine). We just want them to leave us alone.

Iran's economy is crumbling, since the beginning of this year the value of Iranian rial collapsed 30 times, they have catastrophic situation with water, constant electricity cuts. Yet they invest tens of billions in ballistic missiles, nuclear program and foreign terrorism.

And when Iranian people protest against poor economy they simply slaughter them.

 

[Perun]

Israel never started a war.

Did you really write this with your own hand? Do you really think that anyone believes these lies and that no one knows what is really going on?

 

[Passenger]

Next week will be a key time for this war, due to the Brent and WTI oil price will definite increase to above $100, there will be huge pressure to push US goverment consider how to end this war.
Of coures, they can ignore the roar and keep going, I bet there will be somethings more dangerous than loss a war against Iran.

Here's what the Trump administration is doing to lower oil and gas prices. Is it working?

With gas closing in on $4 a gallon, the Trump administration is pulling multiple levers to tame energy prices. The results have been mixed.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Holikarbon]

It was hit by Tomahawk missile which Israel does not posses.



Israel always makes huge effort to avoid civilian casualties. Israel is the only country who makes knock on the roof as warning for example.



That's false.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035436840191160393

BTW they count non Hezbollah militias like Amal as "civilians".




You lied twice today. You could not point at single my lie.

The US and Israel will jointly bomb Iran, but Israel won't take responsibility where it doesn't suit its interests, is that right?

Israel and the US are one side of this war. Therefore, the responsibility for everyone who dies in Iran belongs to these two countries. Israel cannot escape responsibility when it doesn't suit its interests.

You bombed schools and killed children. No one even knows the exact number of civilian deaths in Iran. In Lebanon, however, according to the Lebanese Ministry of Health, the death toll has exceeded one thousand.

Death toll from Israeli attacks rises to 1,204, says Lebanon

Death toll includes 79 women, 118 children, as 2,740 others injured in Israeli strikes amid ongoing escalation - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

In Gaza, you killed more than 70,000 people, yet you shamelessly talk about civilian concerns:

Death toll in Gaza rises to over 72,096 since October 2023

english.wafa.ps

You are both a liar and shameless enough to accuse others of lying.