Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[BaburKhan]

It is not just with what, it is how concentrated and in abundance the defence systems would be too. Even Korkut like guns and CIWS would be effective on cruise missiles. Also point defence missiles potentially can add to the layered defences.

A city like tel Aviv has a metropolitan area of over 1500square km. A typical airbase would be between 10km2 to 20km2. (Incirlik air base is 13km2) .
Hence much easier to protect than a city, especially when you have concentrated weapon systems in hand. It is easier to saturate a city wide defence system.

A missile with an engagement parameter like ESSM, can theoretically shoot down a Brahmos or ER300 or Rampage class supersonic missiles. Anything more advanced will need Patriot, Sm3 or Arrow.

I find your enthusiasm refreshing, and fully agree with the main theme in your last sentence in ().
But saturating CSG (Carrier Strike Group) armaments will take some doing. A target constantly in motion at 30knots is not targetable with the kinds of ballistic missiles Iran has. You need sophisticated HGVs (Hypervelocity Glide Vehicles) for that.


EDIT

You have to plan your moves according to the birds in your hand not according to the birds in the bush.

Of those attack potentials only SOM is in our inventory. (Even that still not fully ready as SOM-C that is going to be used against moving sea targets is still being developed.)
Süper Simsek: not in quantity in the inventory.
Kargi : put on hold and still not in inventory.
K2 : in development stage
Anka3 : Not ready yet. Nor it’s indigenous engine.
ER300 : not in inventory yet
Tayfun 4 : initial testing to be done yet
Gezgin: we only know the name. Not itself.

Do not forget the Barbaros coastal Defence System, it was succesfully tested in 2022 and in 2024 Cakir AShM was integrated and it is still not in Service !

 

[Barry]

Dude, your country is getting bombed to bits and you decide it's a good time to execute your own 19 year old champion athlete

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/world/middleeast/iran-executed-wrestler-mohammadi-hanging-protests.html

Didn't he murder a policeman?

 

[AlperTunga]

It is not just with what, it is how concentrated and in abundance the defence systems would be too. Even Korkut like guns and CIWS would be effective on cruise missiles. Also point defence missiles potentially can add to the layered defences.

A city like tel Aviv has a metropolitan area of over 1500square km. A typical airbase would be between 10km2 to 20km2. (Incirlik air base is 13km2) .
Hence much easier to protect than a city, especially when you have concentrated weapon systems in hand. It is easier to saturate a city wide defence system.

A missile with an engagement parameter like ESSM, can theoretically shoot down a Brahmos or ER300 or Rampage class supersonic missiles. Anything more advanced will need Patriot, Sm3 or Arrow.

I find your enthusiasm refreshing, and fully agree with the main theme in your last sentence in ().
But saturating CSG (Carrier Strike Group) armaments will take some doing. A target constantly in motion at 30knots is not targetable with the kinds of ballistic missiles Iran has. You need sophisticated HGVs (Hypervelocity Glide Vehicles) for that.


EDIT

You have to plan your moves according to the birds in your hand not according to the birds in the bush.

Of those attack potentials only SOM is in our inventory. (Even that still not fully ready as SOM-C that is going to be used against moving sea targets is still being developed.)
Süper Simsek: not in quantity in the inventory.
Kargi : put on hold and still not in inventory.
K2 : in development stage
Anka3 : Not ready yet. Nor it’s indigenous engine.
ER300 : not in inventory yet
Tayfun 4 : initial testing to be done yet
Gezgin: we only know the name. Not itself.

Your EDIT part tells a sad story unfortunately. But in my "scenario" I am already allowing a few years before NATO will effectively dissolve, or Israel is able to convince Trump or the next american president. If we use this time with utmost effectiveness, we may have a chance even against the ACs. We don't need HGV for that. We can send 50 Anka-3 each with 6 Super Simsek to saturate the AD of the carrier group, followed with other waves of drones with stand-off missiles, then it may work out fine for us. Of course we should modernize 200 F16s with MURAD AESA radar and Gökdogan+ or Gökbora missiles. And complement this with armed Hürjets and KEs. But if you ask me whether this "scenario" is realistic, unfortunately not. Because there is a difference between having some prototypes vs producing these weapon systems in sufficient numbers and employing them as part of a coherent war tactic/strategy. And in this aspect, we are notoriously bad.

Also, what Israel may try to do is to attack us very soon together with Greece, hoping that US would still have to run to their help, once Israel starts the war. Attacking Türkiye would not send the oil prices to the roof, so ordinary americans would not necessarily object it. And NATO is not valued that much by them anyhow. So this is a real danger, which many "experts" on TV shows appear not to take into account properly. I am not even sure the real "experts" also take it into account, given the ungrounded boasting I hear from many retired army personal (except maybe Erdogan Karakus).

 

[BaburKhan]

Your EDIT part tells a sad story unfortunately. But in my "scenario" I am already allowing a few years before NATO will effectively dissolve, or Israel is able to convince Trump or the next american president. If we use this time with utmost effectiveness, we may have a chance even against the ACs. We don't need HGV for that. We can send 50 Anka-3 each with 6 Super Simsek to saturate the AD of the carrier group, followed with other waves of drones with stand-off missiles, then it may work out fine for us. Of course we should modernize 200 F16s with MURAD AESA radar and Gökdogan+ or Gökbora missiles. And complement this with armed Hürjets and KEs. But if you ask me whether this "scenario" is realistic, unfortunately not. Because there is a difference between having some prototypes vs producing these weapon systems in sufficient numbers and employing them as part of a coherent war tactic/strategy. And in this aspect, we are notoriously bad.

Also, what Israel may try to do is to attack us very soon together with Greece, hoping that US would still have to run to their help, once Israel starts the war. Attacking Türkiye would not send the oil prices to the roof, so ordinary americans would not necessarily object it. And NATO is not valued that much by them anyhow. So this is a real danger, which many "experts" on TV shows appear not to take into account properly. I am not even sure the real "experts" also take it into account, given the ungrounded boasting I hear from many retired army personal (except maybe Erdogan Karakus).

@AlperTunga

In this Thread the Topic of a hypothetical turkish Strike on a CSG fit better. We can continue talking here: https://defencehub.live/threads/tur...astern-mediterranean.18577/page-8#post-387009