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Turkey responded to Russia's fears about the sale of drones to Ukraine

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Turkey is ready to sell its weapons to Russia if there is a demand for it, Cavusoglu said.

The deal to sell combat drones to Ukraine is not directed against Russia. This was stated by Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu on the air of Haberturk.

"Yes, we sell when there is demand. This deal is not directed against Russia. If Russia needs products from our defense industry, then we are ready to discuss it," he said.

The minister noted that Ankara has good relations with both countries, despite the tense situation in the Black Sea region.

Cavusoglu also added that Turkey continues negotiations on the purchase of a new batch of Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems.
 

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EMT SAVUNMA is developing Naval versions of their Tethered drones. APUS-50-N and APUS-100-N.
Would be excellent over the horizon capability without need to launch helicopters.
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Apparently our next fighter plane to behold is the MIUS before Hürjet and TFX.
Akıncı > MIUS > Hürjet > TFX

I don't think Baykar has the time (or they might be trying to find an engine) to develop such project before they are done with the
TB-3. I also don't think it would or could be named as a fighter as it's roles are the same with non-turbofan UCAVs like AKINCI.

My list would be:
Hürjet>MIUS>TFX=HürjetC>Göksungur>HAVASOJ>6th gen strike fighter project.
 

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I don't think Baykar has the time (or they might be trying to find an engine) to develop such project before they are done with the
TB-3. I also don't think it would or could be named as a fighter as it's roles are the same with non-turbofan UCAVs like AKINCI.

My list would be:
Hürjet>MIUS>TFX=HürjetC>Göksungur>HAVASOJ>6th gen strike fighter project.
Baykar is already working on it and the time-frame is 2023, 3 years to go. Baykar being a privately owned company they have the required agility to make it happen. Akıncı is almost complete, TB3 needs to be coordinated with TCG Anadolu and will likely be flying not long after Anadolu is fully operational. There is time between TB3 and the MIUS. When Baykar says they are targeting 2023 I don't think there is much room for discussion. With experience from TB2 and Akıncı TB3 should be a breeze.

Make no mistake MIUS is a fighter with its mach .8 speed. Dog fight is for dogs.
 

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Does anyone know if these Baykar subsystems are used in TB2?

UAE company Halcon developed some very similar actuators to Baykar ones for UAVs and not sure if they are big enough for full on UCAVs.





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I've been wondering what that item is on the top and it looks like the Baykar bomb rack unit.😮😮
Very weird

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This may sound crazy, but what if UAE took the shot down TB2s from Libya and told a company to reverse engineer it and develop a similar version.
 
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Does anyone know if these Baykar subsystems are used in TB2?

UAE company Halcon developed some very similar actuators to Baykar ones for UAVs and not sure if they are big enough for full on UCAVs.





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I've been wondering what that item is on the top and it looks like the Baykar bomb rack unit.😮😮
Very weird

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This may sound crazy, but what if UAE took the shot down TB2s from Libya and told a company to reverse engineer it and develop a similar version.
The specs and designs are almost identical. Even the text descriptions are almost identical, Halcon just changed "vibration-free" to "jitter-free".
 

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The specs and designs are almost identical. Even the text descriptions are almost identical, Halcon just changed "vibration-free" to "jitter-free".
So what does this mean exactly? Reverse engineering or a coincidence?

Maybe military leadership commissioned them to make a TB2 copy 😂😂😂
 
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So what does this mean exactly? Reverse engineering or a coincidence?

Maybe military leadership commissioned them to make a TB2 copy 😂😂😂
Their website has existed for just over 1 year. If you compare to Baykar or TAI, they developed and grew for decades. Baykar for example started out as Baykar Makina, making elecro-mechanical products, and eventually applied that to branch out to UAVs. My guess is UAE poached some engineers and formed Halcon and told them to reproduce as fast as possible the abilities of the TB2/Anka/Reaper/whatever else, and that means reverse engineering.
 

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Turkey’s unmanned fighter jet prototype to fly by 2023: Baykar CTO​




Turkey aims to conduct the maiden flight of the prototype of its domestically-made unmanned fighter jet in 2023, according to the chief technology officer (CTO) of leading local drone magnate, Baykar.
Selçuk Bayraktar’s announcement came following Turkey's official expulsion from the F-35 fighter jet program.
In a video circulating on social media, he said Baykar has been working on the state-of-the-art unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) Akıncı for four to five years, which steered the company towards its next project, the unmanned fighter jet.

The Baykar CTO said that while the country being expelled from the stealthy fighter jet program may seem like a disadvantage, in the long run, it will yield positive outcomes for the domestic defense industry.
Turkey has been driven to domestically develop unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and other defense systems by sanctions and unofficial embargoes in the past.


The country now not only uses its combat drones on the field, but it is also well on its way to becoming a major exporter of the systems, with Baykar's Bayraktar TB2 UCAVs taking the lead.
Explaining the disadvantages of a system procured from abroad, in reference to the F-35 program, Bayraktar said “such a system, which is managed by digital computers whose software we will procure from abroad, which we do not have full knowledge of, and which is a foreign mission computer and software that decides what the trigger pushed by the pilot will do or not, may expose us to serious restrictions in terms of independent use.”
"Considering the possible usage restrictions and potential embargoes with a system that will be procured from abroad and has dozens of avionics, flight and mission computers that we do not have access to, the national combat platform will enable us to use it independently,” he added.
The United States and eight other countries have abolished the 2006 deal regarding the F-35 program and signed a new agreement that has excluded Turkey, Anadolu Agency (AA) cited a U.S. defense official as saying late Wednesday.

Washington removed Turkey from the F-35 Lightning II jet program in 2019, arguing that S-400 air missile systems acquired by Turkey could be used by Russia to covertly obtain classified details on the Lockheed Martin F-35 jets and is incompatible with NATO systems.
Turkey, however, insists that the S-400 would not be integrated into NATO systems and would not pose a threat to the alliance.
Besides, Bayraktar added on the program that, “we are talking about a project of tens of billions of dollars over the years when the procurement, operation and maintenance costs are considered.”

While it is true that it could take up to 20 years for Turkey to engineer an aircraft of the same capabilities, he stressed that the procurement, operation and maintenance costs of the national platform to be developed “will, in any case, be less than that of the F-35s.”
However, Bayraktar emphasized, since the domestic development could take an extended period of time, it may result in Turkey's platform lagging a generation behind, which is why developing unmanned fighter jets is of particular importance.
Instead of producing an F35-like aircraft in 15 to 20 years, Bayraktar said, they are concentrating on areas the world is already heading towards – lower-cost, artificial intelligence-equipped unmanned warplanes.

This can make Turkey one of the leading countries in the field like it has succeeded with its “game-changing” UAVs and UCAVs, he said.
Bayraktar also advised young entrepreneurs who want to work in this field, particularly the unmanned platforms, to explore areas with the most critical technologies.
“We must prepare for the races of the future today and look to be a leader toward where the world is headed,” he said.


 

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30km+?!

Damn... Imagine Akinci and Aksungur equipped with 12+ of these going on the hunt.

We need quad racks for both Akinci and Aksungur.

F-16 80km+? nice toy, these things will be impossible to detect for most air defence radars in our neighborhood. :)

Also retractable E/O.
 
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Could also be a thermobaric warhead would make more sense. MAM-T (Thermobaric)

They could see action and get the battle proven seal any moment.
 

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