Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[buzztami]

If I'm not mistaken, Italy will produce all the ships. Why don't Indonesian shipyards participate when so much money is paid? İndonesia must demand more...

At least, half will be made in Indonesia. That's what the Indonesian Government's latest scheme related to weapon procurements.

 

[Panca]

Fincantieri | FINCANTIERI WILL PROVIDE 8 VESSELS TO INDONESIA

www.fincantieri.com

6 FREMM + 2 Maestrale

It seem like this the other contract beside rafale that Alman mention yesterday

Deal! Prabowo Borong 8 Kapal Perang Buatan Italia

Fincantieri juga tidak menutup kemungkinan untuk bekerja sama dengan perusahaan pelat merah Indonesia di bidang perkapalan, yaitu PT PAL (Persero).

www.cnbcindonesia.com

 

[Umigami]

Keep the hype high

 

[Gary]

Whewwwww

 

[trishna_amrta]

Fincantieri | FINCANTIERI WILL PROVIDE 8 VESSELS TO INDONESIA

www.fincantieri.com

6 FREMM + 2 Maestrale

We have big plan

Bergamini class (FREMM) frigates of the Italian Navy

Written by D-Mitch Italian Navy Bergamini class FREMM variants in formation Bergamini class is the Italian variant of the FRigate...

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I hope it is the improved variant for Indonesia, 1x 127mm, 2x single fast forty , 1x 76 Strales is a good punch for general purposes (aka, countering swarm militias or USVs of God knows who)

What is the point of having 2x single fast forty. Moreover, there is serious need for CIWS. I strongly doubt the effectiveness of the 76mm Strales as CIWS compare to Millenium Gun

We got eight Frigates at once hope they are willing to get more

Two Itver Huitveld class
Six Fremm Italiano class
Two Maestrale class

What is next?
Eight Mogami class?

Does the Arrowhead 140 still on or cancelled by this 8 Frigate?

 

[Ravager]

There is a lot of problem to adressed and yet we all know we won't have any answer until later date ....

1 . Otomat teseo vs exocet
2 . Millenium CIWS vs double forty
3 . Thales vs leonardo ...
4 . How much contribution from our local industry to shared

Sigh ... And many other to consider ...

 

[Mandala]

So does this mean the 30FFM is no longer on table anymore?

 

[Anmdt]

What is the point of having 2x single fast forty. Moreover, there is serious need for CIWS. I strongly doubt the effectiveness of the 76mm Strales as CIWS compare to Millenium Gun

RCWS + CIWS , i think it is able to fire smart munitions.
More protection, more firepower.

1 . Otomat teseo vs exocet

Easy to replace,

2 . Millenium CIWS vs double forty

Strales on Super Rapid 76/62 is the future, again interchangeable.

3 . Thales vs leonardo ...

Probably Leonardo, but why not Thales Netherland?

4 . How much contribution from our local industry to shared

Nice. Why don't they focus on Iver Huitfeldt and Bung Tomo modernization?

 

[trishna_amrta]

There is a lot of problem to adressed and yet we all know we won't have any answer until later date ....

1 . Otomat teseo vs exocet
2 . Millenium CIWS vs double forty
3 . Thales vs leonardo ...
4 . How much contribution from our local industry to shared

Sigh ... And many other to consider ...

eeehmmm how does supplying the raw materials (steel) sound to you?

 

[Ravager]

We have big plan

What is the point of having 2x single fast forty. Moreover, there is serious need for CIWS. I strongly doubt the effectiveness of the 76mm Strales as CIWS compare to Millenium Gun


Does the Arrowhead 140 still on or cancelled by this 8 Frigate?

Iver are still going strong ... Where on earth you could find an example where contract are signed and paid yet the final design still haven't been validated as yet ...

So does this mean the 30FFM is no longer on table anymore?

We don't know about that as yet ...

RCWS + CIWS , i think it is able to fire smart munitions.
More protection, more firepower.

Things ( final configuration ) hasn't been finalized as yet .... So we are still grasping for a straw here

 

[Ravager]

eeehmmm how does supplying the raw materials (steel) sound to you?

Mainland steel are come cheaper than us , dude !!

 

[trishna_amrta]

Mainland steel are come cheaper than us , dude !!

They can always be rebrand as Karya Anak Bangsa marine grade steel hull plate. AS36 Steel maybe? I doubt it will be HY-80 Steel

 

[Parry Brima]

This guy is speculating or got some inside info?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1402910876064124932

 

[Anmdt]

This guy is speculating or got some inside info?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1402910876064124932

Common sense,
Japanese frigates are multi-purpose, so does the FREMM (assuming the deal was for General Purpose Frigate)
Meanwhile Iver Huitfeldt was meant to be AAW Frigate (If i am not mistaken), so makes it down to either Japanese or Italians, and looks like Italians have won.
So either;
Italians have sold AAW Frigate and Iver Huitfeldt is going to be General purpose, or
Italians have sold General purpose frigate and Iver Huitfeldt is going to be AAW Frigate.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Deal! Prabowo Borong 8 Kapal Perang Buatan Italia

Fincantieri juga tidak menutup kemungkinan untuk bekerja sama dengan perusahaan pelat merah Indonesia di bidang perkapalan, yaitu PT PAL (Persero).

www.cnbcindonesia.com

does is this cout as "menyalip di tikungan terakhir" deal as usual ?

 

[Umigami]

does is this cout as "menyalip di tikungan terakhir" deal as usual ?

I think Fremm is leading pretty much from beginning.

 

[Ravager]

I think Fremm is leading pretty much from beginning.

Naaah ..... If it wasn't for 08 . There is litle chance fremm get noticed by indonesian public at all . Add that with our dissapointment at Damen side as an impetus for finding a new suplier or else It was the Omega class that would bag this contract .
Somehow i'm still imagining about some one at Damen office banging his head on his office table after reading this ... Today . While most of the problem were trully coming from our side they really shooting themselves at foot with their latest charade ... Boy , we are surely can hold a grudges there .....

 

[buzztami]

Common sense,
Japanese frigates are multi-purpose, so does the FREMM (assuming the deal was for General Purpose Frigate)
Meanwhile Iver Huitfeldt was meant to be AAW Frigate (If i am not mistaken), so makes it down to either Japanese or Italians, and looks like Italians have won.
So either;
Italians have sold AAW Frigate and Iver Huitfeldt is going to be General purpose, or
Italians have sold General purpose frigate and Iver Huitfeldt is going to be AAW Frigate.

TNI AL plans to have 16 new frigates. 6 FREMM + 2 IVER. So there might be 8 remaining slots for 30FFM. Who knows

 

[Lordimperator]

Japanese frigates are multi-purpose

Not ASW?

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1402913388808880132