Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Parry Brima]

Lho kan emng udh duluan sign mogami..

Any leaks on the Japanese subs?

 

[flogger]

Any leaks on the Japanese subs?

For me Soryu is much better than Scorpane while scorpane offer a custom build the soryu offer is to give all of her best just as jmsdf have. And for the rest is let us wait and see what will happened

Regard

 

[Lordimperator]

Soryu is much better than Scorpane

Soryu is equipped with Li-on or Aip ? Is it the same class that being offered to Australian Gov by Jap back then?

 

[Parry Brima]

For me Soryu is much better than Scorpane while scorpane offer a custom build the soryu offer is to give all of her best just as jmsdf have. And for the rest is let us wait and see what will happened

Regard

Dump Scorpene and U214 plan, buy 12 Soryu instead.

 

[flogger]

Dump Scorpene and U214 plan, buy 12 Soryu instead.

Abuot...

 

[flogger]

Soryu is equipped with Li-on or Aip ? Is it the same class that being offered to Australian Gov by Jap back then?

Either is li ion or aip you choose they give it to you, li ion or aip still they are a leap in our subs syestem . All depen on ¥

 

[Lordimperator]

are a leap in our subs syestem

Agreed, 3000 ++ tonnage twice than our nagapasa

 

[Parry Brima]

Abuot...

Just like Mogami, the offer will be joint production right? It's a great opportunity for us (PT PAL) to learn from the master who knows literally everything - the good, the bad, and the ugly - about us.

 

[FPXAllen]

Btw, in the past imperial Japan get their warships building technology directly from British Empire, they Made bulk order for several pre dreadnought and dreadnought class battleships directly from British Empire (Made In Barrow in Furness) and they subsequently learn more on how to build complex warships from the example they had and Transfer of technology. Indonesia actually never had and operated such complex weapon system, to own Iver Huitveld class and Fremm actually would be giving us opportunity to learn much of such complex weapon system.

Regarding Japan's warship technological advancement post 1868, it's related to some post I've written somewhere else:

In short, it was amazing. In only 30 years, they went from all wooden ships with construction not much different from when Tokugawa was still alive to producing their first full blown steel battleship with 300 mm cannons just a year after their victory at Tsushima strait.

 

[Lordimperator]

About the sub procurement, is Saab Blekinge ssk still on the table ?

 

[Madokafc]

Regarding Japan's warship technological advancement post 1868, it's related to some post I've written somewhere else:

In short, it was amazing. In only 30 years, they went from all wooden ships with construction not much different from when Tokugawa was still alive to producing their first full blown steel battleship with 300 mm cannons just a year after their victory at Tsushima strait.

Yeah but one should not forget, they paid a tonnes to get license agreement from British Empire, including technician, advisor and training in British shipyard before during the construction of Imperial Japan battleships before. Indonesia should do and emulate such strategy, including to get technology for supporting system.

 

[Madokafc]

About the sub procurement, is Saab Blekinge ssk still on the table ?

It is all about Germany and France

 

[Lordimperator]

It is all about Germany and France

I see, cause blekinge class already copied by the chinese shipyard, PLAN latest SSK has resemblance bleking mast

 

[FPXAllen]

Lho kan emng udh duluan sign mogami..

Err, what? Aren't those Gundams are still in the talks?

I'm so out of the loop here. Care to enlighten me a bit more, please?

 

[Madokafc]

Regarding Japan's warship technological advancement post 1868, it's related to some post I've written somewhere else:

In short, it was amazing. In only 30 years, they went from all wooden ships with construction not much different from when Tokugawa was still alive to producing their first full blown steel battleship with 300 mm cannons just a year after their victory at Tsushima strait.

though during Tokugawa era, they already build Chiyoda the first steam engine warships built in Japan, by the then Ishikawajima Heavy Industry (the same Ishikawajima aka IHI who later built Izumo class DDH, Kongo class DDG, Takanami class and among other)

BTW pic from rakor industry with kemenhan

 

[JATOSINT]

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[Aghost132483]

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though during Tokugawa era, they already build Chiyoda the first steam engine warships built in Japan, by the then Ishikawajima Heavy Industry (the same Ishikawajima aka IHI who later built Izumo class DDH, Kongo class DDG, Takanami class and among other)

BTW pic from rakor industry with kemenhan

Is it Wirajayadi Bahari Kapa or another local company?

 

[Panca]

though during Tokugawa era, they already build Chiyoda the first steam engine warships built in Japan, by the then Ishikawajima Heavy Industry (the same Ishikawajima aka IHI who later built Izumo class DDH, Kongo class DDG, Takanami class and among other)

BTW pic from rakor industry with kemenhan

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When will it be realized? what about the prototype made by Wirajayadi Bahari.

 

[R4duga]

though during Tokugawa era, they already build Chiyoda the first steam engine warships built in Japan, by the then Ishikawajima Heavy Industry (the same Ishikawajima aka IHI who later built Izumo class DDH, Kongo class DDG, Takanami class and among other)

BTW pic from rakor industry with kemenhan

Those are excalibur army newest variants of Kappa , through PT.RDI (Republik defensindo / Excalibur army indonesia) as "rekanan" here , however EA (excalibur army) reportedly offering some joint production portofolio in here .

 

[R4duga]

if there's something that indonesia can seriously reap benefit from czech cooperation , that should be a tatra truck for TNI standarized military truck , but japanese auto company may probably upset with such case and try to intervene with political backing .