Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407786787611807752

Pray for the best.

 

[Lordimperator]

Rafale around six to seven Billion US Dollar

Whoaaa, thats a lot money, i hope we could get scalp included in weapon package too.

 

[archwings]

Hell no, US Navy is just more special and have more technology

what about the nettuno 4100 jammer? is it going to be included? i recall the egyptian one are being stripped off.

 

[Philip the Arab]

American FREMM has mostly American technology in them which is in my opinion far ahead of European systems.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Whoaaa, thats a lot money, i hope we could get scalp included in weapon package too.

MTCR is a bottleneck to the full effectiveness of the SCALP unfortunately.

 

[Ravager]

2020-2024 programme had already set 20 Billion US Dollar budget loan, that's actually enough to provide funding for many major program already being announced like Fremm 4,9 Billion US Dollar, Rafale around six to seven Billion US Dollar, MRTT around 0,7 Billion US Dollar, that's still fucking eight Billion US Dollar left for shopping spree. And now not to mention the government willing to give more leeway beside those already set loan budget for MoD to be spent to acquire many critical technology and weapon system.

And why government willing to spend more beside those 20 Billion US Dollar of MEF III loan budget, that's because this admin actually had left many homework from previous MoD who failed to utilized MEF phase 2 budget so greatly. And there is several failed or delayed Mef phase 2 program like military satelite, Fighter acquisition program, LIFT acquisition program, modernization of T/A50 i , Submarine, Frigates, tracked IFV for army, armor for Marine and so on.

Well , while i hate to bring a rain on all of this parades . Between good plannings and mostly our botched execution in the reality . I'm still holding on to an old formil adage ...
...
Seeing is believing ...

MTCR is a bottleneck to the full effectiveness of the SCALP unfortunately.

When there is a will there always a way ...

 

[satria]

Finally Bapenas approved almost 300 T

Bappenas Ungkap Belanja Militer 2020-2024 Hampir Rp 300 T

Menteri PPN/Kepala Bappenas Suharso Monoarfa buka-bukaan pemerintah menganggarkan belanja militer sebesar US$ 20,7 miliar atau Rp 298,08 triliun.

finance.detik.com

MEF Tak Efektif, Pengamat Sebut RI Butuh Perpres Modernisasi Alutsista

Rencana modernisasi alutsista dengan skema yang tertuang dalam rancangan perpres menjadi jawaban. Saat ini lebih dari 50% senjata TNI tidak dapat dioperasikan.

news.detik.com

 

[Philip the Arab]

When there is a will there always a way ...

Indonesia should just develop ballistic missiles tbh.

 

[Lordimperator]

I'm still holding on to an old formil adage ...
...
Seeing is believing ...

It will take a very long time

 

[Ravager]

Indonesia should just develop ballistic missiles tbh.

The program was there . The execution of said program were was the problem . Between minimal funding availability and dubious operator agency conducting the research ....hence the abysmall result...

It will take a very long time

Atleast my hopes don't get high and dry ...

 

[wekiweko]

and Constellation does not have to have that high end of a capability because that capability is reserved for the Burkes and later on, DDG(X).

 

[Philip the Arab]

and Constellation does not have to have that high end of a capability because that capability is reserved for the Burkes and later on, DDG(X).

Its capabilities are imo ahead of the Euro FREMM.

 

[wekiweko]

perhaps because it is a natural consequence from the fact that she's still being required to be able to protect herself and whatever ships being escorted by her from a near peer enemy

 

[Umigami]

and Constellation does not have to have that high end of a capability because that capability is reserved for the Burkes and later on, DDG(X).

Its capabilities are imo ahead of the Euro FREMM.

We'll grateful with what we'll receive.
Even current bergamini class config is HUGE boost for our capabilities.

 

[wekiweko]

Bergamini is still a huge leap from what we currently have and provide us with better capability in the future, so no complaint here

 

[chiphocks]

most of them are AAW or Multipurpose (AAW & ASuW) platform

any plans for a dedicated ASW warfare???

 

[Djketoprak]

most of them are AAW or Multipurpose (AAW & ASuW) platform

any plans for a dedicated ASW warfare???

Big chance for Leonardo NH-90 i guess

 

[Gary]

Anyone here thinks that the Navy should get rid of all PC-40/PC-36m patrol boats or smaller and focused only in ships with tonnage of 1000 tons above?

As much as I like the hype of current procurement, I don't think the Navy has enough cash to properly maintain those ships while at the same time having to look at a huge fleet of patrol boats.

Navy should be lean and mean. While Bakamla should be better for constabulary jobs.

 

[FoodSoldier]

Indonesia should just develop ballistic missiles tbh.

I totally agree, missile and rocket have the highest Return on Investment (or Deterrent on Investment?) for any country trying to catching up the big boys game.

With $10 billion we can develop series of nuclear ballistic missile. I believe North Korea invest less than that to develop Hwasong series (ICBM) and Pukguksong (Submarine launched, SLBM).

 

[Madokafc]

most of them are AAW or Multipurpose (AAW & ASuW) platform

any plans for a dedicated ASW warfare???

FFM 30 about 8 units is enough?

Poseidon P 8 and fleets of S70 B maybe enough