Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

Relic said:

Wow, massive aid package by Japan has just been announced. The Japanese will provide Ukraine with $12.7 Billion usd worth of macro financial aid. The first tranche, worth $4.7 Billion usd, will be delivered by the end of February.

This marks, by far, the largest donation from a non-NATO member since the outset of the war.

For context, Ukraine could buy all 800,000 artillery shells of the artillery shells outside if Europe that the Czechs have sourced, for approximately half of the $4.7 Billion Japan will send this month.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1759652210168717422

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Century said:

That's crazy. Has there been any response from Russia on this yet?

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Gary said:

Huhhh. A female Azov captured in Avdeejivka (is that the correct Russian pronunciation? )


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Meanwhile, Ukrainian 'men' are busy fleeing towards Romania and winning Twitter wars .

Maybe Dmitri, Sarah Ashton Cirilo, Ponomarenko and their likes should do heavy lifting instead of trashing the internet?

Ukraine is in dire need of men you know

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Relic said:

For the last time... The West doesn't care about arbitrary freedom.

We care about our own selfish interests, as does everyone else in the world. We're simply getting an exceptional price to neuter the Russian army for a generation, expand NATO on Russia's border and piss Putin off to no end, while he gets to play the role of "bad guy" because he started this conflict.

Ukrainians, who are fighting for the ability to determine their own future and not wind up a vasal state of Russia, like Belarus, are willing to die in defense of their country. We're getting a historically cheap price to hurt Russia and we don't even have to put the lives of our military personnel on the line because somebody else is willing to do that instead? Who wouldn't take that deal!?

By time the costs are split up between the various countries helping Ukraine (many of whom have big economies), the relative cost is peanuts.

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• Report: The work of military engineers of the Central Military District in the Krasnolimansky direction
• Categories: Wars, conflicts, unrest
• Place: Russia
• Event date: 02/15/2024
• Date of admission: 02/16/2024
• Author: Stanislav Krasilnikov
• Source: RIA Novosti
• Credit: RIA Novosti
• Original: Digital
• Format: JPEG, 10000x6667px, 29.6Mb
• Job-ID: be56c6d974a79cc4

Iskander said:

The West has been at war for 500 years with everything non-Western. Behind the beautiful facade of your “humanity” lies the terrible, ugly, completely inhuman face of the “progressive part of the world”, which, without unnecessary sentimentality, chooses its next victim in the East. But only those countries that are once affected by this understand this. Like Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and dozens of others before them.
Western - Christian - countries have created a wonderful society. There is wealth, progress, culture, fair laws and humanism. This is undeniable.
But their so-called Christian charity and humanitarianism are for themselves; this does not apply to non-Christian countries. They call themselves "first world".
The rest are second and third world. They can hardly tolerate the “Second World”, hiding a grimace. The “Third World” for them is no longer people.
Look where all these so-called "international organizations" are headquartered. The UN, The Hague and other Geneva... They are all located in Christian countries. . And all the so-called “international laws” were written by them. And they themselves are the first to violate them. The laws were not written for them!
Look what's happening in the world! These are all the “fruits” of Western domination! But the West says: “No, you are barbarians! Not we. We are the West, cultured and virtuous Christians.”
But, apparently, they have already realized that their dominance in the world is coming to an end. And now they have gone completely wild.
They are already prudently preparing to destroy their own kind - Christians. And it seems that they will no longer kill and destroy with conventional weapons. They have already begun to prepare public opinion in the “progressive part of the world” for a nuclear war.

Call 40 million Ukraine a “proxy-nation”? It's horrible

This is your entire Humanism. Nothing new

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Relic said:

You reference Christianity, but Islam is just as radical. The Quran literally calls for the death / jailing of non-believers (with a couple caveats).

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Afif said:

Christianity and Islam is quite different. Radical is a subjective description.

Quran literally doesn't call for death/jailing of non-believers. At worst, It talks about dominance of Muslims. If you are not okay with it, then it calls for a fair dual. That is not the same as about going on a killing spree for sake of killing non-believers for no reasons. Or at best, those warfighting commands were context dependent.

The problem with the West is not always what it does to protect its interest, rather, it is being dishonest about it. West uses democracy, human rights and similar nonsense to advance its geopolitical interests. You can't sell 'international rule based order' when you have double standards and selective applications of the rules.

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