Live Conflict Pakistan-India Tensions

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This aged well
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When you lock horns with PAF, you either bring your A game or get shot down by a PL 15E
 

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Grok should not deny that fighter jets did not crash, demand an official statement from the Indian government. Colonel Sofia Qureshi should make a press statement. Indian media quickly reported the fake news. They should say this is also false.
 

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Pakistan: India has hit a hydroelectric power plant
A hydroelectric power plant on the Pakistani side of the border in Kashmir has been hit by Indian attacks early Wednesday morning.
This was stated by military spokesman Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry, according to the AFP news agency. He added that the attacks have destroyed parts of the water system.
– What international laws of war allow this? Attacking another country's water reserves, dams and hydroelectric structures, says Chaudhry.

They have the US's blessing bro
Pakistan probably pissed off the US one way or another and the US probably aided India in order to blackmail Pakistan to fulfill something the US wants one way or the other
Didnt you find it strange that the "supposedly" terror incident occured right after JD Vance's visit to India?

As for India, they are copying the Israeli's startegy book, chapter titled "the victim card", to justify their attacks
 

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Grok should not deny that fighter jets did not crash, demand an official statement from the Indian government. Colonel Sofia Qureshi should make a press statement. Indian media quickly reported the fake news. They should say this is also false.
Right. Unfortunately Grok is AI - so I can’t control it. It says it as it sees it
 

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If it is true that J10Cs have downed Rafales this spells disaster for India. Its most advanced fighter getting easily shot down by an export variant of Chinas current, what Tier 3 ?, fighter.
There's nothing to suggest which aircraft or weapon was used to down any aircraft. It may well be a Mirage 5 with a Matra, we just don't know.

so you found the proof. Great. Please share it.
Proof is lying peppered across Indian land.

Umm - look at the fact checks below the tweet by Grok. The video is from 2024
No, it isn't.

Right. Unfortunately Grok is AI - so I can’t control it. It says it as it sees it

It doesn't see anything. I saw a guy arguing with Grok last week on twitter whether the footage of the Mig-23 crash in US in 2023 was from the Pakistani Mirage crash last month. It argued that as a Pakistani Mirage crash landed last month, it had to be it; while the same footage was freely available in multiple channels from 2023 and there are people that very clearly speak American English in the video. AI doesn't know things, it's a language model.
 

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Colonel Sofia Qureshi should issue a press release.
"Reports circulating on social media that our fighter jet has crashed are unfounded."

Television channels should broadcast the news with the headline "Busting Pakistan's fake news."

Indian social media users will not be required to cite GROK as a source after this statement.
 

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There's nothing to suggest which aircraft or weapon was used to down any aircraft. It may well be a Mirage 5 with a Matra, we just don't know.


Proof is lying peppered across Indian land.


No, it isn't.



It doesn't see anything. I saw a guy arguing with Grok last week on twitter whether the footage of the Mig-23 crash in US in 2023 was from the Pakistani Mirage crash last month. It argued that as a Pakistani Mirage crash landed last month, it had to be it; while the same footage was freely available in multiple channels from 2023 and there are people that very clearly speak American English in the video. AI doesn't know things, it's a language model.
Very nice - if you sat and saw a guy argue with an AI engine , then I have really nothing to add
 

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I have said this many times in the Turkish defense forum. RAFALE is not a cutting-edge 4.5th gen fighter. It has a very small (838 T/R module) GaAs AESA radar, and it can't take full advantage of the Meteor missile. Other than the SPECTRA EW system, it doesn't have any shining features. F-16V is better than RAFALE as a 4.5th gen fighter, as APG-83 SABR AESA is better than RBE2 AESA. J-10CE+KLJ-10 AESA+PL15E proved superior to RAFALE+RBE2 AESA+Meteor weak chain here is the performance of RBE2 AESA. KLJ-10 (1200 GaAs T/R module) probably offers a similar performance compared to APG-83 SABR AESA.
 

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So far, haven't seen any kind of evidence for this: only wreckage of drop tanks, perhaps one (Indian air-to-air) missile, and then a few videos and photos from period 2005-2017... perhaps also from a crash of an IAF jet in 2023
No. Evidence is in this very forum. Stuff we are actively talking about are not old crashes, they are all new.
 

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