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If Iran has nuclear weapons, it would be the greatest gift Turkey could ever receive. It could use this argument and the resulting shift in power in the Middle East to officially launch a nuclear program and even justify it logically. This is what the Americans and Israelis fear most, as it would deprive them of their ability to act in the Middle East in the long term. Those who possess nuclear weapons can create facts even against countries like the US and Israel, and both sides know it.
 

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That’s a short - sighted and naive to think that the Wests or Russia will allow that.
Why do you think we are developing and building Balistic Missiles Short -> Medium/Long Range? For conventional warheads? Certainly not. Preparatory work has been underway for several years for a future scenario.

Furthermore, ballistic missiles with conventional warheads are extremely inefficient, expensive, and very inaccurate. That's why there are tactical and strategic nuclear warheads that compensate for this imbalance in these weapon systems.
 

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Why do you think we are developing and building Balistic Missiles Short -> Medium/Long Range? For conventional warheads? Certainly not. Preparatory work has been underway for several years for a future scenario.

Furthermore, ballistic missiles with conventional warheads are extremely inefficient, expensive, and very inaccurate. That's why there are tactical and strategic nuclear warheads that compensate for this imbalance in these weapon systems.
That we could try to get nukes, doesn’t mean that they will be allowed us to have some. BM can of course be accurate and effective. It’s they you have to handle it.
 

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Its kind of crazy to think in the western world the media pushes the narrative about Muslims taking over. Meanwhile every 5 to10 years we watch a Muslim nation being destroyed by the western world.
 

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That we could try to get nukes, doesn’t mean that they will be allowed us to have some. BM can of course be accurate and effective. It’s they you have to handle it.

Yes, but they are only accurate to a certain extent, and yes, Baltic missiles can be made more accurate with better control mechanisms and sensors, but the cost-benefit ratio is absolutely negative, even in a war. Cruise missiles, drones with glide bombs, and hypersonic missiles are much more efficient. So if you plan to have 100% non-nuclear War Doctrin, ballistic missiles make little sense.
 

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I expect Iran to capitulate and accept to dismantle its nuclear program and long-range ballistic missile production to save the regime.


Iran launched a medium-range ballistic missile, probably the Khorramshahr-4, aka Kheibar, towards Israel tonight.

Only 1 missile was apparently launched.

This missile can hit targets up to 2,000 kilometers away and can carry a 1,500 kilogram warhead.

The missile uses hypergolic liquid fuel, which allows for rapid launch preparation (~12 minutes). It reaches speeds of Mach 16 outside the atmosphere and Mach 8 inside the atmosphere.


Iran fired a ballistic missile capable of carrying a 1.5-ton warhead at Israel just to intimidate. With this missile, you can easily destroy an air base with its fighter jets. Or you can disintegrate a neighborhood with a population of 40-50 thousand into molecules.

You cannot even imagine the destruction that 10 of these would create in Tel Aviv or Haifa. If the US has bombers, Iran has ballistic missiles. And this will not change.
 

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Iranians were mocking the Ukrainians and celebrating the brazen Russian invasion of their lands. They felt so proud when their suicide drones were being used by Russia to predominantly kill Ukrainian civilians. But watching how the Ukrainians have taken on 140 million Russia, compared to how badly the Iranians are dealing with 7 million Isrealis really puts things into context.

If Ukraine bordered Iran and a war took place between them you got to expect that the Ukrainians would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Years into the war the Ukrainians are still defiant in the face of Russia, the Iranians less then a week of air strikes are pretty much accepting their defeat.
 

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Iranians were mocking the Ukrainians and celebrating the brazen Russian invasion of their lands. They felt so proud when their suicide drones were being used by Russia to predominantly kill Ukrainian civilians. But watching how the Ukrainians have taken on 140 million Russia, compared to how badly the Iranians are dealing with 7 million Isrealis really puts things into context.

If Ukraine bordered Iran and a war took place between them you got to expect that the Ukrainians would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Years into the war the Ukrainians are still defiant in the face of Russia, the Iranians less then a week of air strikes are pretty much accepting their defeat.
Wrong comparison. Ukraine+NATO vs Russia+Iran+North Korea.

One thing is really important to understand the situation. Iran can not put his whole quantity potential into the conflict.

A bit off topic
I am sick of listening that Persian speech. Never heard such a shovel language that Persian.
 
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Iranians were mocking the Ukrainians and celebrating the brazen Russian invasion of their lands. They felt so proud when their suicide drones were being used by Russia to predominantly kill Ukrainian civilians. But watching how the Ukrainians have taken on 140 million Russia, compared to how badly the Iranians are dealing with 7 million Isrealis really puts things into context.

If Ukraine bordered Iran and a war took place between them you got to expect that the Ukrainians would absolutely wipe the floor with them. Years into the war the Ukrainians are still defiant in the face of Russia, the Iranians less then a week of air strikes are pretty much accepting their defeat.
That's because Slavs are much better fighters than persians. And yes, Ukraine would slaughter iran.
 

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Does this mean that Iran can only fire five missiles from now on?

Can someone explain why the Houthis were able to become such a major problem for years, while an entire coalition couldn't put them down, but Iran was wiped out so fast?
 
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Wrong comparison. Ukraine+NATO vs Russia+Iran+North Korea.

One thing is really important to understand the situation. Iran can not put his whole quantity potential into the conflict.

A bit off topic
I am sick of listening that Persian speech. Never heard such a shovel language that Persian.

no doubts there are certain benefits Ukraine has had from being supported economically and politically from much of the west. But at the same time their taking on a massive enemy and their state likewise had no airforce or navy.

However, the mindset is completely different. The Iranians are behaving as if they have already lost this war. Its been what 5 or 6 days of Isreali airstrikes and their already mentally broken.

If the Iranian people were truly willing to fight this war, even if the Americans got involved and started bombing them they will not be able to defeat a nation of 90 million people.

Truth be told Iranians should be willing to sustain millions of casualties before they start even thinking about defeat. Not after a few days of Isreali strikes.
 

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Does this mean that Iran can only fire five missiles from now on?

Can someone explain why the Houthis were able to become such a major problem for years, while an entire coalition couldn't put them down, but Iran was wiped out so fast?
No need to wipe out Houthis, just kill the masters in Tehran.
 

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Does this mean that Iran can only fire five missiles from now on?

Can someone explain why the Houthis were able to become such a major problem for years, while an entire coalition couldn't put them down, but Iran was wiped out so fast?
Iran took preperations(since december last year),it was/is a target to be destroyed permanently and not only by Isreal.
The US,UK,France,Germany etc all want Iran to be weak/regime change(almost impossible),nuclear incapable.
The houthis were not targeted to be annihilated,it would be easer to destroy all their missile/rockets.
Remember,the houthis made a deal to stop fighting make peace with the KSA and the Yemeni government.
I'm sure the KSA/UAE had a hand in not attacking the Houthis.
Btw,nobody likes the Iranian regime not even most Muslim countries.
 

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Iran launched a medium-range ballistic missile, probably the Khorramshahr-4, aka Kheibar, towards Israel tonight.

Only 1 missile was apparently launched.

This missile can hit targets up to 2,000 kilometers away and can carry a 1,500 kilogram warhead.

The missile uses hypergolic liquid fuel, which allows for rapid launch preparation (~12 minutes). It reaches speeds of Mach 16 outside the atmosphere and Mach 8 inside the atmosphere.


Iran fired a ballistic missile capable of carrying a 1.5-ton warhead at Israel just to intimidate. With this missile, you can easily destroy an air base with its fighter jets. Or you can disintegrate a neighborhood with a population of 40-50 thousand into molecules.

You cannot even imagine the destruction that 10 of these would create in Tel Aviv or Haifa. If the US has bombers, Iran has ballistic missiles. And this will not change.

No, you can't destroy a 40-50k thousand population neighbourhood with a meagre 1.5-ton warhead. In fact, even MOAB can't destroy a 40-50,000 neighbourhood. You can't destroy an airbase. If it falls in an empty space won't damage anything if it falls on a hangar, even a small tactical missile can do the job.
 

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No, you can't destroy a 40-50k thousand population neighbourhood with a meagre 1.5-ton warhead. In fact, even MOAB can't destroy a 40-50,000 neighbourhood. You can't destroy an airbase. If it falls in an empty space won't damage anything if it falls on a hangar, even a small tactical missile can do the job.
Correct! Thank you!
 

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I saw a tweet from the non-Turk political islamist ragip trying to convince Turks we don't need nukes because we have american ones in our lands. That statement alone from him tells me he's on the mossad or american payroll.

Yes Turks in an anglo-american zionist war against you, don't worry american nukes in Turkiye will protect us.

These political islamists are poison and for the most part western agents.

The enemy has already deeply infiltrated the Turkish state, all thats left to happen is the surprise when were attacked and we see our army not engaging. But by then its too late.
Bruh, you literally can't send a post without mentioning "islamists."

What makes Ragıp one of them?
 

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