Live Conflict Iran-Israel Conflict (2025)

Bogeyman · Jun 22, 2025

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936723678663692515

Iranian Foreign Minister:
• Everyone should know that we pursued diplomacy, but the US and the Zionist regime launched aggressive attacks on Iran and its people, and we will use all our capabilities to defend ourselves.
• It’s illogical to demand from Iran return to diplomacy
• I don't know how much room remains for diplomacy after our nuclear facilities were bombed by the US & Israel.
• The US is not diplomatic and only understands the language of force and threats. They have shown that they do not respect the international charter and international law and do not adhere to any of them.
• NPT has failed to protect us.
• I will head to Moscow to meet with Putin. Russia is a friend of Iran and we have a strategic partnership with it [likely to discuss Iran-Russia relations if/when Iran leaves NPT.]

Iran to openly declare that it wants to develop nuclear weapons

Angry Turk !!! · Jun 22, 2025

Is there any refugee movement towards Türkiye from Iran? I mean in bigger numbers.

Soldier30 · Jun 22, 2025

Iran used medium-range ballistic missiles Kheibar Shekan for the first time in a morning attack on Israel on June 22. The Kheibar missile is 11.4 meters long, weighs 6.3 tons, has a warhead of up to 550 kg, and has a range of up to 2,000 km. 30 missiles, including other types, were fired at the cities of Tel Aviv and Haifa. According to media reports, some of the missiles were shot down by air defense systems of Israel, the United States, and other countries. Iran did not report the targets it struck, but judging by the destruction, many objects were hit by the missiles. According to Israeli media reports, there are wounded and dead.

mTT · Jun 22, 2025

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936787255495958528

IC3M@N FX · Jun 22, 2025

Angry Turk !!! said:
Is there any refugee movement towards Türkiye from Iran? I mean in bigger numbers.

Lock everything down in borders in Turkey and divert Europe, let's see if they still support Israel when their own ultra-right wingers are breathing down their necks.
Even the last morons of the ultra-right wing know who is responsible for the mass migration.

Angry Turk !!! · Jun 22, 2025

IC3M@N FX said:
Lock everything down in borders in Turkey and divert Europe, let's see if they still support Israel when their own ultra-right wingers are breathing down their necks.
Even the last morons of the ultra-right wing know who is responsible for the mass migration.

Sounds nice in theory but we all know how erdogan loves these refugees. In reality, 95% would be stuck in Türkiye...

IC3M@N FX · Jun 22, 2025

Angry Turk !!! said:
Sounds nice in theory but we all know how erdogan loves these refugees. In reality, 95% would be stuck in Türkiye...

No, no, even he's not an idiot; he's not going to let hundreds of thousands or millions into the country. It would lead to a full-scale civil war in Turkey.

Let the Arabs like the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and others take in their people, even if the Iranians are Persians; they place so much value on humanity in the Middle East

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It's time to make the Arabs pay for their passivity.

No Name · Jun 22, 2025

Taking in refugees might be great for Turkey in this case, since 25 per cent of Iran is Turkic and all the Azeri Iranians identify as Turks.

It will only take 1 million refugee Turks settling in the east or south east will kill the idea of Kurdistan permanently.

IC3M@N FX · Jun 22, 2025

No Name said:
Taking in refugees might be great for Turkey in this case, since 25 per cent of Iran is Turkic and all the Azeri Iranians identify as Turks.

It will only take 1 million refugee Turks settling in the east or south east will kill the idea of Kurdistan permanently.

Let Australia take them in

(it's a good idea, 70% of the country is uninhabited). What does Turkey have to do with it? If the Arabs think they don't have to fight for their rights and have to kiss up ass from US/Israel so they don't jeopardize their monarchies, then they can pay the price.

Angry Turk !!! · Jun 22, 2025

No Name said:
Taking in refugees might be great for Turkey in this case, since 25 per cent of Iran is Turkic and all the Azeri Iranians identify as Turks.

It will only take 1 million refugee Turks settling in the east or south east will kill the idea of Kurdistan permanently.

I should have been more specific, I have no problem with Azerbaijani Turks that see themselves as Turks from Iran, they can come and should be settled in the south-east like you said. But every other ethnicity, a BIG FAT NO.

TSKlove · Jun 22, 2025

Azeri441 said:
US dropped 12 MOPs, 163 tons of ordinance, there is no way anything survived in there

Does TR have something like this in the inventory or in development?

TheInsider · Jun 22, 2025

The US Air campaign inflicted significant damage to Fordow. Iran has no reason to fight now. Its proxy network is in shambles, and its nuclear program suffered significant damage. I think Iran will be given some kind of an opportunity to save face a little, and backdoor diplomacy will kick in to cease hostilities. If not, Iran will be the victim of the sunk cost fallacy. Iran still has assets to lose, like its oil industry, and it is evident that Iran will lose more than the US if it decides to continue this so Iran should cut its losses.

No Name · Jun 22, 2025

Angry Turk !!! said:
I should have been more specific, I have no problem with Azerbaijani Turks that see themselves as Turks from Iran, they can come and should be settled in the south-east like you said. But every other ethnicity, a BIG FAT NO.

i agree with this? Turkey has already taken in too many people from other backgrounds.

TSKlove said:
Does TR have something like this in the inventory or in development?

No even if Turkey did have something like that there is no way to deliver the bomb to the target.

Maybe in the future, if Turkey builds a strategic bomber version of Anka.

Angry Turk !!! · Jun 22, 2025

No Name said:
Could you agree with this? Turkey has already taken in too many people from other backgrounds.

Taking in Turks was never a problem for me, taking in other etnicities is. And those people taken in can be kicked out once a proper Turk is leading this Country.

TSKlove · Jun 22, 2025

No Name said:
i agree with this? Turkey has already taken in too many people from other backgrounds.

No even if Turkey did have something like that there is no way to deliver the bomb to the target.

Maybe in the future, if Turkey builds a strategic bomber version of Anka.

If I am not mistaken, Baykar and/or TAI are currently developing or planning for bomber versions? I need to look this up.

IC3M@N FX · Jun 22, 2025

TheInsider said:
The US Air campaign inflicted significant damage to Fordow. Iran has no reason to fight now. Its proxy network is in shambles, and its nuclear program suffered significant damage. I think Iran will be given some kind of an opportunity to save face a little, and backdoor diplomacy will kick in to cease hostilities. If not, Iran will be the victim of the sunk cost fallacy. Iran still has assets to lose, like its oil industry, and it is evident that Iran will lose more than the US if it decides to continue this.

No matter how things turn out in the end, they will definitely be unable to act for the next 10 years. All their resources have been exhausted, even their ancient Warplanes have been partially destroyed. They have gambled big and lost a lot, including Syria, Libya, and, as Armenia's second protective power. Believe me or not, but the oil/gas pipeline through Qatar & Co. via Syria to Turkey will become a reality. Iran wanted to prevent this at all costs because it would take them out of the game and force them to adjust oil/gas prices to stay in the game.

Iran and there proxies have failed, Don't forget that they protected and supported the PKK for decades too, just like the Israelis.
Both countries have caused massive damage to Turkey.
In the long term, Turkey will benefit from this.

No Name · Jun 22, 2025

Angry Turk !!! said:
Taking in Turks was never a problem for me, taking in other etnicities is. And those people taken in can be kicked out once a proper Turk is leading this Country.

i know grammarly fuck up my sentence.

TSKlove said:
If I am not mistaken, Baykar and/or TAI are currently developing or planning for bomber versions? I need to look this up.

Anka 3 is a tactical bomber, so it is too small. After Anka 3, they will build Anka 4, which will be larger but most likely a fighter, rather than a bomber.

TheInsider · Jun 22, 2025

IC3M@N FX said:
No matter how things turn out in the end, they will definitely be unable to act for the next 10 years. All their resources have been exhausted, even their ancient Warplanes have been partially destroyed. They have gambled big and lost a lot, including Syria, Libya, and, as Armenia's second protective power. Believe me or not, but the oil/gas pipeline through Qatar & Co. via Syria to Turkey will become a reality. Iran wanted to prevent this at all costs because it would take them out of the game and force them to adjust oil/gas prices to stay in the game.

Qatar pipeline might, in fact, work in favor of Iran. China buys a lot of gas from Qatar. Qatar supplying gas to Europe through a pipeline will increase the price at which China buys from Qatar, so Iran might benefit from that.

TheInsider · Jun 22, 2025

No Name said:
i know grammarly fuck up my sentence.

Anka 3 is a tactical bomber, so it is too small. After Anka 3, they will build Anka 4, which will be larger but most likely a fighter, rather than a bomber.

Anka 4 is rumored to be axed after a leadership change in TAI. Temel Kotil wanted TAI to develop its own A-A focused wingman for Kaan, but it is claimed that the new leadership axed the project. Supposedly, the reason is too many projects and limited resources, but some people say TAI came under pressure from the top to shelve the Anka 4 project. Now, Kızılelma is the only wingman that is suitable for A-A engagements until we hear more from the Anka-4 project.

No Name · Jun 22, 2025

TheInsider said:
The US Air campaign inflicted significant damage to Fordow. Iran has no reason to fight now. Its proxy network is in shambles, and its nuclear program suffered significant damage. I think Iran will be given some kind of an opportunity to save face a little, and backdoor diplomacy will kick in to cease hostilities. If not, Iran will be the victim of the sunk cost fallacy. Iran still has assets to lose, like its oil industry, and it is evident that Iran will lose more than the US if it decides to continue this so Iran should cut its losses.

If the war stops now, it may be bad for Israel and the US. Iranian society is likely to emerge from this period more nationalistic and united than it has ever been before. Before the attack, the conflict with Israel was seen as an obsession of the mullahs that slowly siphoned resources away from Iran. Still, now the general public sees the conflict as an existential threat.

Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon before, but the trauma of this event will lead to Iran pursuing it now. Let's not forget that Iran still has all the knowledge it needs. I do not doubt that Iran will also finally stop its dog and pony show; moving forward, they will modernise their military. It is likely that after this, China will rearm Iran and will probably seek a greater presence the the Middle East.

China is too vulnerable to global oil price hikes, and it will most likely try to counter the US's destabilising presence in the region, at least if it is even a little competent, that is what the CCP would be aiming for.

TheInsider said:
Anka 4 is rumored to be axed after a leadership change in TAI. Temel Kotil wanted TAI to develop its own A-A focused wingman for Kaan, but it is claimed that the new leadership axed the project. Supposedly, the reason is too many projects and limited resources, but some people say TAI came under pressure from the top to shelve the Anka 4 project. Now, Kızılelma is the only wingman that is suitable for A-A engagements until we hear more from the Anka-4 project.

So what are they going to do after they finish Anka 3?

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