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Live Conflict Iran-Israel Conflict (2025)
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So far 24 killed in Israel - all civilians. No any damage to military infrastructures.
Iran lost dozens of top commanders. Major nuclear sites destroyed. Heavy damage to ballistic missiles.
They will come back after the third rate iranian airstrikes end
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worth keeping in mind since the fall of Turkic ruled Iran, pretty much every government placed in power in Iran has been put there by the west.
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Pahlavi Dynasty got Western Allied support to bring down the Qajars.
Qajars Ruled Iran was in Disaray. It was so bad that the Ottomans, British and the Russians all invaded Iran during ww1 despite Iran being Neutral.
During Ww2 they were also neutral still didnt stop Soviets and the British from invading.
Then came the Iranian revolution and Iraq invaded Iran. I can see why Iran wants to get Nukes.
It sucks politically, militarily and economically. Nukes are its only deterrance. At the same time Iran did no favours by pissing everybody off.
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Akp and its media have learnt the worst lessons from this shit; zionists have their deep tentacles in the crevices of the finance world, organized crime, media, hollywood, social media apps, tech supergiants, rating agencies, U.S. military industrial complex, and the political elite of the western world.
The lesson you learn from this is "avoid direct altercation with Israel at all costs, esp. a war of words", not "make them believe we're a threat to them when we're not". Again the populist motivation to consolidate their base around security concerns has superseded astute strategic long-term thinking, harming the country for no reason except for keeping core Akp voters due to perceived security concerns.
Unfortunately the political immaturity of the populace (be it opposition or otherwise) pushes politics into confrontation with this entity as that's a popular position to take. Even with a change of admin, they probably would be too afraid of the populace to follow a more rational path forward, which would be appeasing zionists for now and using the opportunity to strengthen the country against such threats if they materialize, using western help while doing it.
There's a reason even China and Russia don't engage them the way overconfident and cocky Iranians did. Learn a fucking lesson from China at least.
The lesson you learn from this is "avoid direct altercation with Israel at all costs, esp. a war of words", not "make them believe we're a threat to them when we're not". Again the populist motivation to consolidate their base around security concerns has superseded astute strategic long-term thinking, harming the country for no reason except for keeping core Akp voters due to perceived security concerns.
Unfortunately the political immaturity of the populace (be it opposition or otherwise) pushes politics into confrontation with this entity as that's a popular position to take. Even with a change of admin, they probably would be too afraid of the populace to follow a more rational path forward, which would be appeasing zionists for now and using the opportunity to strengthen the country against such threats if they materialize, using western help while doing it.
There's a reason even China and Russia don't engage them the way overconfident and cocky Iranians did. Learn a fucking lesson from China at least.
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The Israeli Air Force has released footage of strikes on Iranian ballistic missile launchers. All Israeli aircraft, F-35I, F-16I and American-made F-15I are used in the strikes. The type of missiles used by the Israeli air force is not reported. Judging by the video, strikes were carried out on all types of Iranian missiles, including Qadr-H, Fateh-110, Fateh-313, Qassem and other types. It is worth noting that some missile strikes are simply shown from different angles. The question is often asked where Iran's air defense is. According to open data and judging by what is shown, Iran's air defense was disabled at the beginning of the war. This is the result of Israeli intelligence work. Drones launched by Iranian residents, including Afghans in Iran, were used to destroy the air defense. Also, Iranian residents, Afghans and sabotage groups deployed remotely controlled Spike ATGMs. It is currently unknown how many and what kind of air defense Iran has. Iran has several S-300 air defense batteries, an export variant, but these are early modifications from the 1980s. It has not been confirmed that it was destroyed. Rumors about Iran having S-400 air defense systems have not been confirmed. Russia has previously offered Iran joint air defense development projects, but this never took off.
We have many Turkish soldiers stationed in Qatar.
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Even if it was symbolic why the hell did they attack Qatar? it is literally the only state in the gulf that isn't hostile to them plus the US will fuck them over either way.
The best option would have been to keep fighting Israel and ignore the US.
The Iranian regime is a really special type of idiot.
Do we know if they have air defence?
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No death reported. It is also reported that attack was defended.
Iran, USA, and Israel theater will sit at the table next week in the name of democracy.
