ah but they didn't see the October 7th attacks coming from across the most watched wall in the world.
Bazinga!
ah but they didn't see the October 7th attacks coming from across the most watched wall in the world.
Real stealth drones like the RQ-180 or the lijian or the ch-7 or the s70 are infinitely superior to the shahed. At the end of the day shahed is a kamikaze drone. It doesn't even need to work in tandem with a stealth craft, it needs to be damn good.
Iran's air defense systems failed because traitors inside hit the air defense units with kamikaze UAVs. Iran's air defense units were also caught unprepared for war. They were hit while en route, before the systems were activated. Another shortcoming may be Iran's electronic warfare capabilities. It is certain that they do not stand much of a chance against the electronic warfare capabilities of the F-35s.Iran did a horrendous job with its defense aquisition(hell they were even worse than our old men which is an achievement) and their air defence was practically non existent and unequipped to deal with anything isreal threw at them. I'm sure isreal would have whopped iran to kingdom come with only f16Is if needed.
The only lesson I can see looking forward for any nation with hostile neighbours is to have a well equipped airforce even if it is of a smaller size and to not solely rely or air defence unless you have a death wish
The shahed 238 indeed looks a lot better than the 136 but at the same time it is more vulnerable to IR and mass producing might be an issue with all the western components involved(probably why we haven't seen it being used a lot).Russia begins producing turbofan-powered Shahed-238 drones
The Ukrainians suggest that these drones are equipped with a twin-spool turbofan engine, giving them a range of up to 2,500 km and a top speed of 600 km/h. This makes them extremely difficult to intercept for Ukraine’s mobile air defense teams, which rely on anti-aircraft machine guns and autocannons.
The first recorded use of the Shahed-238, likely a test launch, took place in January 2024, but no further strikes have been reported since. Leaked documents from Russia’s Alabuga SEZ industrial hub reveal plans for domestic production of various Shahed-238 variants.
The Shahed-238 kamikaze drone represents a significant evolution in Iran’s unmanned aerial vehicle [UAV] technology, particularly noted for its integration of a jet engine over traditional propeller systems.
Unveiled in November 2023 by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps during an aerospace exhibition, this drone has sparked considerable interest due to its potential military applications and its implications for international security dynamics.
The Shahed-238 is essentially an advanced variant of the Shahed-136, which has been widely used in conflicts, particularly by Russian forces in Ukraine.
What sets the Shahed-238 apart is its turbojet propulsion system, which significantly boosts its speed and maneuverability compared to its piston-engine predecessors. The drone’s design is streamlined, maintaining a delta-wing shape but adapted for the increased airflow demands of jet propulsion.
This drone is powered by either the Toloue-10 or Toloue-13 micro-turbojet engines, which enable it to reach speeds of up to 500 km/h, although there are claims from Russian sources suggesting it can achieve speeds up to 800 km/h during a dive.
This substantial increase in speed over the Shahed-136, which tops out at about 180 km/h, poses a new challenge for air defense systems. However, this speed comes at the cost of reduced range and increased thermal signature, making it potentially more vulnerable to infrared-guided missiles.
Three distinct variants of the Shahed-238 have been observed, each tailored for different operational profiles. The first variant employs a basic GPS and GLONASS-based inertial navigation system, similar to that of the Shahed-136, primarily for striking fixed targets. This model focuses on cost-effectiveness, aiming to deliver precision strikes with minimal guidance technology.
The second variant introduces an electro-optical/infrared [EO/IR] camera system. This allows the drone to engage moving targets with greater accuracy, using either autonomous heat-seeking capabilities or operator-controlled guidance via video feed. This feature can significantly enhance its effectiveness against mobile military assets or in scenarios requiring last-minute target adjustments.
The third variant is equipped with a radar-detection system, intended for suppression of enemy air defenses [SEAD]. This model can detect, track, and attack radar installations or other electromagnetic signal sources, providing a strategic advantage in penetrating defended airspaces.
The Shahed-238’s use of Western components, despite international sanctions, is a notable aspect of its construction. Analysis of downed drones has revealed parts like the Czech-made PBS TJ150 turbojet engine, electronic chips from Intel and Texas Instruments, and satellite navigation components from Tallysman Wireless. This has raised questions about sanction evasion and the global supply chain’s role in military technology.
In terms of deployment, there’s unconfirmed evidence from early 2024 suggesting Russia used at least one Shahed-238 in an attack on Ukraine. However, the Ukrainian Air Force has been cautious in confirming these incidents, indicating a possible ongoing assessment of the drone’s capabilities and countermeasure development.
The Shahed-238’s introduction into active conflict zones could shift tactical approaches, given its speed, which challenges conventional anti-aircraft gun engagements, and its diverse guidance systems, which could overwhelm certain defense mechanisms.
Nonetheless, its higher production cost compared to the Shahed-136 might limit its deployment scale, leading to strategic considerations where quality might be prioritized over quantity.
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Russia begins producing turbofan-powered Shahed-238 drones
According to Ukrainian intelligence, Russia has begun local production of Iranian Shahed-238 kamikaze drones, rebranded as Geran-3 with turbofan engine.bulgarianmilitary.com
Iran's air defense systems failed because traitors inside hit the air defense units with kamikaze UAVs. Iran's air defense units were also caught unprepared for war. They were hit while en route, before the systems were activated. Another shortcoming may be Iran's electronic warfare capabilities. It is certain that they do not stand much of a chance against the electronic warfare capabilities of the F-35s.
Who said?..
ah but they didn't see the October 7th attacks coming from across the most watched wall in the world.
It’s a classic counter job for ‚Korkut‘ or ‚Cirit/Sungur‘.Russia begins producing turbofan-powered Shahed-238 drones
The Ukrainians suggest that these drones are equipped with a twin-spool turbofan engine, giving them a range of up to 2,500 km and a top speed of 600 km/h. This makes them extremely difficult to intercept for Ukraine’s mobile air defense teams, which rely on anti-aircraft machine guns and autocannons.
The first recorded use of the Shahed-238, likely a test launch, took place in January 2024, but no further strikes have been reported since. Leaked documents from Russia’s Alabuga SEZ industrial hub reveal plans for domestic production of various Shahed-238 variants.
The Shahed-238 kamikaze drone represents a significant evolution in Iran’s unmanned aerial vehicle [UAV] technology, particularly noted for its integration of a jet engine over traditional propeller systems.
Unveiled in November 2023 by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps during an aerospace exhibition, this drone has sparked considerable interest due to its potential military applications and its implications for international security dynamics.
The Shahed-238 is essentially an advanced variant of the Shahed-136, which has been widely used in conflicts, particularly by Russian forces in Ukraine.
What sets the Shahed-238 apart is its turbojet propulsion system, which significantly boosts its speed and maneuverability compared to its piston-engine predecessors. The drone’s design is streamlined, maintaining a delta-wing shape but adapted for the increased airflow demands of jet propulsion.
This drone is powered by either the Toloue-10 or Toloue-13 micro-turbojet engines, which enable it to reach speeds of up to 500 km/h, although there are claims from Russian sources suggesting it can achieve speeds up to 800 km/h during a dive.
This substantial increase in speed over the Shahed-136, which tops out at about 180 km/h, poses a new challenge for air defense systems. However, this speed comes at the cost of reduced range and increased thermal signature, making it potentially more vulnerable to infrared-guided missiles.
Three distinct variants of the Shahed-238 have been observed, each tailored for different operational profiles. The first variant employs a basic GPS and GLONASS-based inertial navigation system, similar to that of the Shahed-136, primarily for striking fixed targets. This model focuses on cost-effectiveness, aiming to deliver precision strikes with minimal guidance technology.
The second variant introduces an electro-optical/infrared [EO/IR] camera system. This allows the drone to engage moving targets with greater accuracy, using either autonomous heat-seeking capabilities or operator-controlled guidance via video feed. This feature can significantly enhance its effectiveness against mobile military assets or in scenarios requiring last-minute target adjustments.
The third variant is equipped with a radar-detection system, intended for suppression of enemy air defenses [SEAD]. This model can detect, track, and attack radar installations or other electromagnetic signal sources, providing a strategic advantage in penetrating defended airspaces.
The Shahed-238’s use of Western components, despite international sanctions, is a notable aspect of its construction. Analysis of downed drones has revealed parts like the Czech-made PBS TJ150 turbojet engine, electronic chips from Intel and Texas Instruments, and satellite navigation components from Tallysman Wireless. This has raised questions about sanction evasion and the global supply chain’s role in military technology.
In terms of deployment, there’s unconfirmed evidence from early 2024 suggesting Russia used at least one Shahed-238 in an attack on Ukraine. However, the Ukrainian Air Force has been cautious in confirming these incidents, indicating a possible ongoing assessment of the drone’s capabilities and countermeasure development.
The Shahed-238’s introduction into active conflict zones could shift tactical approaches, given its speed, which challenges conventional anti-aircraft gun engagements, and its diverse guidance systems, which could overwhelm certain defense mechanisms.
Nonetheless, its higher production cost compared to the Shahed-136 might limit its deployment scale, leading to strategic considerations where quality might be prioritized over quantity.
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Russia begins producing turbofan-powered Shahed-238 drones
According to Ukrainian intelligence, Russia has begun local production of Iranian Shahed-238 kamikaze drones, rebranded as Geran-3 with turbofan engine.bulgarianmilitary.com
Iran's air defense systems failed because traitors inside hit the air defense units with kamikaze UAVs. Iran's air defense units were also caught unprepared for war. They were hit while en route, before the systems were activated. Another shortcoming may be Iran's electronic warfare capabilities. It is certain that they do not stand much of a chance against the electronic warfare capabilities of the F-35s.
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Iran's supreme leader claims 'victory' in his first comments after U.S. strikes
Iran's government also voted to suspend cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, a move that will stymie efforts to monitor its uranium enrichment.www.nbcnews.com
Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei has issued a prerecorded message claiming victory over Israel.
quote:
claiming in a televised speech that his country had secured a victory over Israel and delivered a "slap in the face" to Washington.
unquote.
They don't have a lot of those types of bombs, thus they want to keep some on hand to use against China, in case a war happens.What happens if you drop 10 more on the crater with precise enough guidance? I mean what's really stopping them from pounding those further
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Iran's supreme leader claims 'victory' in his first comments after U.S. strikes
Iran's government also voted to suspend cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, a move that will stymie efforts to monitor its uranium enrichment.www.nbcnews.com
Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei has issued a prerecorded message claiming victory over Israel.
quote:
claiming in a televised speech that his country had secured a victory over Israel and delivered a "slap in the face" to Washington.
unquote.
What sort of a leader can be so faraway from truth and in such dreamworld?
More over what kind of people in a country can believe and entertain such crap?
I guess being at the age 86 and having been fed with religious ideology all his life, he has lost touch with reality altogether. But the people???
May Turkiye be saved from such leadership.
I wonder why... /sCommon issue with the natives of the region.
1) Mossad is not responsible for Gaza.
ah but they didn't see the October 7th attacks coming from across the most watched wall in the world.
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Iran's supreme leader claims 'victory' in his first comments after U.S. strikes
Iran's government also voted to suspend cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, a move that will stymie efforts to monitor its uranium enrichment.www.nbcnews.com
Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei has issued a prerecorded message claiming victory over Israel.
quote:
claiming in a televised speech that his country had secured a victory over Israel and delivered a "slap in the face" to Washington.
unquote.
What sort of a leader can be so faraway from truth and in such dreamworld?
More over what kind of people in a country can believe and entertain such crap?
I guess being at the age 86 and having been fed with religious ideology all his life, he has lost touch with reality altogether. But the people???
May Turkiye be saved from such leadership.