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İs someone really believe that northern Iraq and East Syria will be part of Turkey? Kurds of the region speak in Arabic language, they feel themselves half Arab. so how could they integrate with Turkish government and Turkish people?

İt is just a clown show.

Our Turks in particular the Islamist Turks are naive they think the Kurds and Arabs will be united by Islam led by Turks.

All those lands in Syria and Iraq will be ours.

This is how deluded our people are. I checked numerous posts on reddit on what Greeks, Arabs, Armenians, Tunisians, Albanians, Kurds, Libyans, Egyptians the lands where the Seljuks and Ottomans ruled.

I dont know what religion they follow most of them are either Christian, Muslim and Athiest.

They all agreed on one thing that us Turks are murderers, conquerors, imperialists and colonisers.

Albanians were Muslim and it didnt stop them from rebelling against the Muslim Ottoman Empire before the Balkan Wars and during the Balkan Wars.

Our people are deluded man. This what happens when Kadir Misiroglu's words are treated like the Gospel.
 
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Ottomans invaded Egypt/Mamluks to ensure the unity of the ummah. They were both Turks and sunni muslims. Ottomans also fought against sunni muslims of North Africa who were unwilling to bend the knee to the sultan (some of them joined willingly). You want unity of ummah? Better get ready to invade Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and North Africa. This is the only way. Those who think people will willingly form an ummah under the leadership of Turkiye are daydreaming.
 

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While we are talking about akp vs chp, kurt vs turk, secular vs religious fundamentalist I see rich people sending their children to same boarding schools in UK and US. They just live in an harmony. Money unites them. %18 of Turkiye live like Amsterdam but on the other hand %67 live like Angola and blame one another. If you are rich it is a great country. If you are barely surviving it is kind of hell.The first step of solving any problem is recognizing there is one. Our problem as a nation is what we want for people who are not like us. Who doesnt beleive what we beleive,who vote for other political party. Whose etnicity is different from ours . I dont have any realistic solution for that. Maybe we should divide the country into 4 pieces. One for nationalists,one for seculars,one for religious people and one for kurts. It can be a solution. We dont like to live together anyhow.
 

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While we are talking about akp vs chp, kurt vs turk, secular vs religious fundamentalist I see rich people sending their children to same boarding schools in UK and US. They just live in an harmony. Money unites them. %18 of Turkiye live like Amsterdam but on the other hand %67 live like Angola and blame one another. If you are rich it is a great country. If you are barely surviving it is kind of hell.The first step of solving any problem is recognizing there is one. Our problem as a nation is what we want for people who are not like us. Who doesnt beleive what we beleive,who vote for other political party. Whose etnicity is different from ours . I dont have any realistic solution for that. Maybe we should divide the country into 4 pieces. One for nationalists,one for seculars,one for religious people and one for kurts. It can be a solution. We dont like to live together anyhow.
Shouldn't have filled the country with a million different ethnicities then.
 

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While we are talking about akp vs chp, kurt vs turk, secular vs religious fundamentalist I see rich people sending their children to same boarding schools in UK and US. They just live in an harmony. Money unites them. %18 of Turkiye live like Amsterdam but on the other hand %67 live like Angola and blame one another. If you are rich it is a great country. If you are barely surviving it is kind of hell.The first step of solving any problem is recognizing there is one. Our problem as a nation is what we want for people who are not like us. Who doesnt beleive what we beleive,who vote for other political party. Whose etnicity is different from ours . I dont have any realistic solution for that. Maybe we should divide the country into 4 pieces. One for nationalists,one for seculars,one for religious people and one for kurts. It can be a solution. We dont like to live together anyhow.
what a treasonous words ! there is a solution that worked for 80 years return to parliamentary democracy under TSK's guidance the school curriculum that is Brocken on purpose need to be fixed new kemalist generation need to be prepared !
 

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Yasar Guler said former Pkk terrorists can serve in the TSK.

We are fcked if not cooked for good.

Dont be surprised if you hear former pkk pigs killing Turkish soldiers by turning their guns against them when serving.
 

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Yasar Guler said former Pkk terrorists can serve in the TSK.

We are fcked if not cooked for good.

Dont be surprised if you hear former pkk pigs killing Turkish soldiers by turning their guns against them when serving.
so not only they wont get punished for their murders but also will receive salary from Turkish taxpayer ?
 

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Maybe we should divide the country into 4 pieces. One for nationalists,one for seculars,one for religious people and one for kurts. It can be a solution. We dont like to live together anyhow.

Most Turkish Muslims are secular and nationalistic. Even the Muslims Turks supporting Erdogan think what is taking place is about expanding and making Turkiye bigger, not smaller and divided. If they saw the reality they would be just as angry as everyone else is.

The Kurds in general are forming a problem in all the countries they reside in, they are constantly being used by the invaders to undermine the host nations. A people that really have no significant history of statehood or empire, don't understand how dangerous the world is. Kurds have no industry, no science, no technology, no capacity to deal with nations like the USA, Russia, England, Germany, France and Isreal. This is all about survival and unfortunately the kurds time and time again are used by external actors to undermine the host nation.

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So according to this 12% of Turkiye would be in favour of Sharia, meaning Islam ruling the state. That means for the most part the other 88% of the country in which the majority are also Muslim believe in secularism, meaning free to practice whatever religion you like without the states involvement. If this poll removed the Kurdish, Arabic element of the Turkish nation its likely that it would be even lower in terms of who wants Sharia. In general Turkic nations are some of the lowest Muslim majority nations desiring Sharia law.

The political islamists in Turkiye are just closet marxists and like all filthy marxists they try to twist the meanings of words. This is why they turned "secularism" to mean hate of Muslims hate of Islam, when in reality being secular doesnt mean such a thing.
 
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I still wonder where our paid government trolls are at to come and defend their papa Tayyip? Why are they hiding and they don’t write anything here? AKPKK voters and foreign fanboys, where are you?
 

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Probably the Turk in him creating a violent cognitive dissonance in his attempts to sell the nation to an ethnofascist minority and forget all the blood shed to create a homeland for our people as they were getting massacred in their millions across the balkans, Caucuses and ME by the ancestors of these same traitors?
 

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Probably the Turk in him creating a violent cognitive dissonance in his attempts to sell the nation to an ethnofascist minority and forget all the blood shed to create a homeland for our people as they were getting massacred in their millions across the balkans, Caucuses and ME by the ancestors of these same traitors?

Just like erdogan is georgian, i doubt any of these traitors are ethnically Turkic. But these guys have deep ties to "gladio". Its no coincidence that they would come to the rescue of CIA backed AK party.

If things continue down this path, maybe within 10 years no one in Turkiye will even be able to mention such things without either going to jail or worse death squads being utilised. When the Americans attempt to takeover a nation, especially a nationalistic and fierce one, they always end up creating massive bloodshed within that nation.
 

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Lol he said "ben ahrazım" at the end. It means I'm deaf and mute, but it is used generally for dumb people in slang language. Second meaning has a more widespread use than the first one.
 

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Özgür Özel mentioned Misak-ı Milli in his latest speech... Just a subtle mention, but mark my words Greece, Israel, Iran, etc would all hate if CHP comes to power.

Yes, ZP and İYİ are more nationalist, but as they'll form a small portion of the coalition, it's CHP that we should focus on. KK may have damaged its reputation for years, but at its core CHP represents all the fundamentals of the Turkish Republic, and now it's had a factory reset.

CHP would militarily back the Turkmens in Iraq and Syria, mark my words. At the same time, they'll get rid of illegal immigrants, whilst simultaneously improving Türkiye's image on the world stage. CHP is backed by an educated voter base, in comparison to AKP who appeals to an older, more easily manipulated demographic.

As the most likely party to replace AKP by far, I can only see things improving under their rule. And unlike the weak image potrayed by KK, CHP with anyone else at the helm, whether its MY, ÖÖ or Eİ, will cause a huge headache for regional adversaries. They can fool around with a Türkiye ruled by Islamist dictator, but they wouldn't be able to do the same with someone who rules Türkiye the way it was meant to be ruled.


 

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Özgür Özel mentioned Misak-ı Milli in his latest speech... Just a subtle mention, but mark my words Greece, Israel, Iran, etc would all hate if CHP comes to power.

Yes, ZP and İYİ are more nationalist, but as they'll form a small portion of the coalition, it's CHP that we should focus on. KK may have damaged its reputation for years, but at its core CHP represents all the fundamentals of the Turkish Republic, and now it's had a factory reset.

CHP would militarily back the Turkmens in Iraq and Syria, mark my words. At the same time, they'll get rid of illegal immigrants, whilst simultaneously improving Türkiye's image on the world stage. CHP is backed by an educated voter base, in comparison to AKP who appeals to an older, more easily manipulated demographic.

As the most likely party to replace AKP by far, I can only see things improving under their rule. And unlike the weak image potrayed by KK, CHP with anyone else at the helm, whether its MY, ÖÖ or Eİ, will cause a huge headache for regional adversaries. They can fool around with a Türkiye ruled by Islamist dictator, but they wouldn't be able to do the same with someone who rules Türkiye the way it was meant to be ruled.


They would do nothing, lol. They don't even criticize the treason process because they too want pkk sympathizer votes. If anything, they would roll back Turkish military influence abroad.
 

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