If that is the case then explain why on earth do majority of Ukrainians wants a ceasefire deal with Russia? Just hearing Zelensky's statements for the last 2 years and you feel that Ukraine is on the verge of victory and that the Russian economy and manpower is on the verge of collapse. After 2 years, and Ukraine is still losing critical cities like Toretsk, Chasiv Yar, and eventually Kupyansk, Pokrovsk, and Konstantynovika (dont know if I spelled it correctly) as if it is some sort of Black Friday sale
This is clearly reflected in voting tendencies in which Russians are in favour of continuing the SMO and keeping the annexed lands while the Ukrainians are burnt out and are feeling that this war is unwinnable; the fact that they want an immediate ceasefire says it all
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/08/07/poll-ukrainians-fight-to-the-end-russia-results/
While many Russians favor negotiating for peace with Kyiv, they are unwilling to give up any Ukrainian territory seized since 2014. They are, however, more open to a “neutral” status for eastern Ukraine.
globalaffairs.org
Ukraine is demographically collapsing. No soldiers are available at this point to even hold guns. Just like the post, I shared below, stated; attritional warfare isnt linear. It remains stagnant until the line breaks and then all hell will break loose
Going into a recession for a year or two isnt going to break a country's back but having a debt to gdp ratio of 86% while Russia is at ~17% is catastrophic for Ukraine. Russia will never go into a severe recession nor will it suffer from an economic catastrophe unlike Ukraine whose lifeline is literally Western aid. The moment that gets cut, Ukraine will spiral downward
Lets just admit it; Ukraine is losing the war and even Trump is admitting it. He stated many times that sooner or later Ukraine will lose and its better to lose now or the sacrifice that Ukraine will have to offer 2-3 years into the future for a ceasefire deal will be even greater.
For Ukraine to win, Russia's money-making machine must be crippled and this means stopping Russian gas sales which is nearly impossible as no nation like Turkey, China, and EU will refuse cheap Russian gas to fuel their economy
Your posts are so clearly pro-Putin its quite amusing. I would love to know and understand the true reasons you seem to so admire this ridiculous man who has inflicted so much suffering on the world, and on his own beautiful country and people.
You also seem to misread pretty much every sentiment on this thread. You say things like ''Lets just admit it, Ukraine is losing the war''
Where did anyone say or think little Ukraine would defeat Russia militarily and actually win this war? If that happened, despite all of Russia's huge advantages it would be the greatest military shock in all of world history. Although i guess it can depend on perspective and definition, for me Ukraine have already 'won'. No matter what happens they have fought for their country, embarrassed a 'super power' it shares a huge land border with, and they have shown themselves to be an incredible people. Yes a hollow victory if they end up losing the whole country or a substantial part of it, but a victory of sorts none the less.
Imagine the USA invading Mexico, and 4 x years later not having taken even a quarter of the country, and having to call in Brazil to send shells and troops. That's basically what has happened so far with this war.
You even talk seriously about Russian voting tendencies, as if those can possibly tell us anything the Russian people are truly thinking! Do you really think any Russian voting results tell us anything other than what Putin wants them to show? Do you understand how this country actually operates? These sort of comments just cause people to normally just skip even reading your posts. You cannot trust any results, or even any economical data from this country, as it is all scrutinised, sanitised or outright forged by the Putin regime. Even surveys taken by reputable outside agencies cannot be accurate as most Russian people are terrified or being exposed as someone anti-war or anti Putin and will not speak their truth when asked as they fear the consequences.
Do you have Russian friends or family? I do, and they tell me of shortages, price hikes, a sense of unease and paranoia across the country, and a huge feeling of shame (from both pro-war and anti war camps). They tell me of huge losses, that they cannot even mourn normally. Rural Russia in particular is suffering in ways you wouldn't believe.
What I find incredible, is the fact so little of the country has been taken by Russian after 4 years, how reduced Russia's standing is now in the world, just how much damage it has done to its own reputation, its economy, and its population, and how embarrassing its military performance has been. No possible news from the battle lines can really change this now. Wagner's rebellion, having to invite North Korean troops to fight for them, their Navy and Air force being decimated. Its all kinds of different defeats, irreversible defeats that will have ramifications for Russia for generations, and one that no matter how much land they manage to grab will have been worth the cost.
Back to ignore now, don't know why i bother but occasionally it is just satisfying to point out to you how ridiculous some of your comments are.
