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Using an expensive Iskander ballistic missile just to hit a drone truck?!
not to be a smartass but the thumbnail and that video is showing me 2 drone trucks.
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Assuming their cheapest iskander can cost under 1 million dollars, no one knows how much a drone truck can cost ranging from its electronics, communications, drones inside and launch equipment all military grade coming from the west sounds like it might be pricey enough to throw an Iskander at.
I can't find what the name of their UAV trucks were to find their estimated costs.
 

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not to be a smartass but the thumbnail and that video is showing me 2 drone trucks.
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Assuming their cheapest iskander can cost under 1 million dollars, no one knows how much a drone truck can cost ranging from its electronics, communications, drones inside and launch equipment all military grade coming from the west sounds like it might be pricey enough to throw an Iskander at.
I can't find what the name of their UAV trucks were to find their estimated costs.
Bro,
You should also add to the cost; the cost of what those blown up drones would have destroyed, had they not been blown up.
Many times people have criticised the destruction of cheap Shaheed drones by expensive a2a missiles in Iran-Israel conflict. If you haven’t got a cheaper interceptor ready in hand, you have to use what you have got. That Shaheed may have hit a 100 million dollar fighter jet. Or it may have hit a multi million dollar building with people in it.

That drone truck may have been getting ready to inflict heavy, multi million dollar damage to an oil installation. So you need to destroy ir in the best and quickest way.
 

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not to be a smartass but the thumbnail and that video is showing me 2 drone trucks.
View attachment 77066
Assuming their cheapest iskander can cost under 1 million dollars, no one knows how much a drone truck can cost ranging from its electronics, communications, drones inside and launch equipment all military grade coming from the west sounds like it might be pricey enough to throw an Iskander at.
I can't find what the name of their UAV trucks were to find their estimated costs.
1 track of drones can cause significant damage up to million of dollars.
 

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Putin wont accept such a useless deal
Ukraine sooner or later will lose this war.

1- The people are slowly turning against Zelensky with Russian bombardments hitting nearly all Ukrainian cities every day while life in Russia is going as normal.
2- Ukraine is in debt, with the US set to take nearly all of its natural resources of income as means to repay such debt.
3- Ukraine doesnt have soldiers to keep the frontline stable. By shifting troops from other areas to counter Russian advances in Pokrovsk, Ukraine started to lose areas/cities in other segments of the frontline
4- Putin just entered the Dnipro region, which is one of the most richest and easy to conquer ares of Ukraine, and Iam 100% sure Putin has no desire to keep it in Ukraine's hands under any peace deal
5- The Russian economy is stable with the Ruble being the strongest EM currency this year even during wartime while the Ukrainian currency is under pressure
6- Putin is still recruiting soldiers in dozens on thousands of soldiers and has a war budget that wont dry up anytime soon while Ukrainian army is depending on Western aid that sooner or later will cease as Europeans are experiencing a cost of living crisis

Putin proved to the whole world that as long as you have large population and public support, domestic military capabilities, and natural resources such as oil and gas, then it doesnt matter if the whole world is your enemy since you are gonna win anyway

IMO, Putin will just continue to conquer lands in Ukraine
I typically leave your posts alone but this is an exceptionally misinformed post.

1- Zelenksy's latest approval rating is 65% (July 2025 polling - other polling shows similar results).
2- That's not at all how the US-Ukraine resource agreement works. If you look through my posts here I summarized the terms of the agreement.

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After the completion of the second (Kherson) counter-offensive on November 12, 2022, Russia was occupying 108,651 km² of Ukraine. As of August 17, 2025, Russia occupies 114,493 km². This is an increase of 0.968% of Ukraine's total territory. In other words, in the last 2 years and 9 months, Russia occupied less than 1% of Ukraine.

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I'm not an expert on the Russian economy. However, Russia's Economy Minister is. In June he said that Russia’s economy is "on the brink of going into a recession."
 

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Rare footage of the use of Russian FPV drones "Prince Vandal Novgorodsky" and VT-40, in the summer camp of the National Guard of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region. In the video, the drones, controlled by fiber optic cable, flew into the forest camp and attacked the vehicles of the National Guard of Ukraine. It is worth noting that controlling an FPV drone in the forest requires special training.

 

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I typically leave your posts alone but this is an exceptionally misinformed post.

1- Zelenksy's latest approval rating is 65% (July 2025 polling - other polling shows similar results).
If that is the case then explain why on earth do majority of Ukrainians wants a ceasefire deal with Russia? Just hearing Zelensky's statements for the last 2 years and you feel that Ukraine is on the verge of victory and that the Russian economy and manpower is on the verge of collapse. After 2 years, and Ukraine is still losing critical cities like Toretsk, Chasiv Yar, and eventually Kupyansk, Pokrovsk, and Konstantynovika (dont know if I spelled it correctly) as if it is some sort of Black Friday sale

This is clearly reflected in voting tendencies in which Russians are in favour of continuing the SMO and keeping the annexed lands while the Ukrainians are burnt out and are feeling that this war is unwinnable; the fact that they want an immediate ceasefire says it all

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/08/07/poll-ukrainians-fight-to-the-end-russia-results/




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After the completion of the second (Kherson) counter-offensive on November 12, 2022, Russia was occupying 108,651 km² of Ukraine. As of August 17, 2025, Russia occupies 114,493 km². This is an increase of 0.968% of Ukraine's total territory. In other words, in the last 2 years and 9 months, Russia occupied less than 1% of Ukraine.
Ukraine is demographically collapsing. No soldiers are available at this point to even hold guns. Just like the post, I shared below, stated; attritional warfare isnt linear. It remains stagnant until the line breaks and then all hell will break loose



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I'm not an expert on the Russian economy. However, Russia's Economy Minister is. In June he said that Russia’s economy is "on the brink of going into a recession."
Going into a recession for a year or two isnt going to break a country's back but having a debt to gdp ratio of 86% while Russia is at ~17% is catastrophic for Ukraine. Russia will never go into a severe recession nor will it suffer from an economic catastrophe unlike Ukraine whose lifeline is literally Western aid. The moment that gets cut, Ukraine will spiral downward


Lets just admit it; Ukraine is losing the war and even Trump is admitting it. He stated many times that sooner or later Ukraine will lose and its better to lose now or the sacrifice that Ukraine will have to offer 2-3 years into the future for a ceasefire deal will be even greater.

For Ukraine to win, Russia's money-making machine must be crippled and this means stopping Russian gas sales which is nearly impossible as no nation like Turkey, China, and EU will refuse cheap Russian gas to fuel their economy
 
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If that is the case then explain why on earth do majority of Ukrainians wants a ceasefire deal with Russia? Just hearing Zelensky's statements for the last 2 years and you feel that Ukraine is on the verge of victory and that the Russian economy and manpower is on the verge of collapse. After 2 years, and Ukraine is still losing critical cities like Toretsk, Chasiv Yar, and eventually Kupyansk, Pokrovsk, and Konstantynovika
Toretsk and Chasiv Yar are not cities. Toretsk had a pre-war population of 31,000 (currently 1000-1500) while Chasiv Yar had a pre-war population of 12,000 (currently 1000). Russia is conquering small towns at the cost of tens of thousands of troops, while cities remain completely out of reach. To this day the only city with a population of over 150,000 that Russia captured since the start of the full-scale invasion remains Mariupol. Initially Russia also captured Kherson, but lost it in late 2022.

To better illustrate the state of the war, here is the change in total % of Ukraine under occupation by period:
2014-2015: -8%
2022, first 6 months of invasion: -13%
2022, after Kharkiv and Kherson counter-offensives: +3%
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2023: 0%
2024: -0.5%
2025: -0.4% (so far)

Russia occupies less territory in August 2025 than it did in August 2022: 19% vs 21%.


This is clearly reflected in voting tendencies in which Russians are in favour of continuing the SMO and keeping the annexed lands while the Ukrainians are burnt out and are feeling that this war is unwinnable; the fact that they want an immediate ceasefire says it all

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/08/07/poll-ukrainians-fight-to-the-end-russia-results/
That's not what this poll indicates. Most Ukrainians favor negotiations to end the war, because after 3.5 years it is clear that negotiations will be needed to end it. However, if the question asks whether Ukrainians want to agree to Russia's ceasefire offer, the answer is a resolute no. You can look at polling that includes what kind of ceasefire Ukrainians are willing to agree to, not just whether Ukrainians are willing to agree to a ceasefire.
 

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If that is the case then explain why on earth do majority of Ukrainians wants a ceasefire deal with Russia? Just hearing Zelensky's statements for the last 2 years and you feel that Ukraine is on the verge of victory and that the Russian economy and manpower is on the verge of collapse. After 2 years, and Ukraine is still losing critical cities like Toretsk, Chasiv Yar, and eventually Kupyansk, Pokrovsk, and Konstantynovika (dont know if I spelled it correctly) as if it is some sort of Black Friday sale

This is clearly reflected in voting tendencies in which Russians are in favour of continuing the SMO and keeping the annexed lands while the Ukrainians are burnt out and are feeling that this war is unwinnable; the fact that they want an immediate ceasefire says it all

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/08/07/poll-ukrainians-fight-to-the-end-russia-results/





Ukraine is demographically collapsing. No soldiers are available at this point to even hold guns. Just like the post, I shared below, stated; attritional warfare isnt linear. It remains stagnant until the line breaks and then all hell will break loose




Going into a recession for a year or two isnt going to break a country's back but having a debt to gdp ratio of 86% while Russia is at ~17% is catastrophic for Ukraine. Russia will never go into a severe recession nor will it suffer from an economic catastrophe unlike Ukraine whose lifeline is literally Western aid. The moment that gets cut, Ukraine will spiral downward


Lets just admit it; Ukraine is losing the war and even Trump is admitting it. He stated many times that sooner or later Ukraine will lose and its better to lose now or the sacrifice that Ukraine will have to offer 2-3 years into the future for a ceasefire deal will be even greater.

For Ukraine to win, Russia's money-making machine must be crippled and this means stopping Russian gas sales which is nearly impossible as no nation like Turkey, China, and EU will refuse cheap Russian gas to fuel their economy

Your posts are so clearly pro-Putin its quite amusing. I would love to know and understand the true reasons you seem to so admire this ridiculous man who has inflicted so much suffering on the world, and on his own beautiful country and people.

You also seem to misread pretty much every sentiment on this thread. You say things like ''Lets just admit it, Ukraine is losing the war''

Where did anyone say or think little Ukraine would defeat Russia militarily and actually win this war? If that happened, despite all of Russia's huge advantages it would be the greatest military shock in all of world history. Although i guess it can depend on perspective and definition, for me Ukraine have already 'won'. No matter what happens they have fought for their country, embarrassed a 'super power' it shares a huge land border with, and they have shown themselves to be an incredible people. Yes a hollow victory if they end up losing the whole country or a substantial part of it, but a victory of sorts none the less.

Imagine the USA invading Mexico, and 4 x years later not having taken even a quarter of the country, and having to call in Brazil to send shells and troops. That's basically what has happened so far with this war.

You even talk seriously about Russian voting tendencies, as if those can possibly tell us anything the Russian people are truly thinking! Do you really think any Russian voting results tell us anything other than what Putin wants them to show? Do you understand how this country actually operates? These sort of comments just cause people to normally just skip even reading your posts. You cannot trust any results, or even any economical data from this country, as it is all scrutinised, sanitised or outright forged by the Putin regime. Even surveys taken by reputable outside agencies cannot be accurate as most Russian people are terrified or being exposed as someone anti-war or anti Putin and will not speak their truth when asked as they fear the consequences.

Do you have Russian friends or family? I do, and they tell me of shortages, price hikes, a sense of unease and paranoia across the country, and a huge feeling of shame (from both pro-war and anti war camps). They tell me of huge losses, that they cannot even mourn normally. Rural Russia in particular is suffering in ways you wouldn't believe.

What I find incredible, is the fact so little of the country has been taken by Russia after 4 years, how reduced Russia's standing is now in the world, just how much damage it has done to its own reputation, its economy, and its population, and how embarrassing its military performance has been. No possible news from the battle lines can really change this now. Wagner's rebellion, having to invite North Korean troops to fight for them, their Navy and Air force being decimated......Its a a variety of all kinds of different crushing and humiliating defeats.....irreversible defeats that will have ramifications for Russia for generations, and one that no matter how much land they manage to grab will not have been worth the cost.
 
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Your posts are so clearly pro-Putin its quite amusing. I would love to know and understand the true reasons you seem to so admire this ridiculous man who has inflicted so much suffering on the world, and on his own beautiful country and people.

You also seem to misread pretty much every sentiment on this thread. You say things like ''Lets just admit it, Ukraine is losing the war''

Where did anyone say or think little Ukraine would defeat Russia militarily and actually win this war? If that happened, despite all of Russia's huge advantages it would be the greatest military shock in all of world history. Although i guess it can depend on perspective and definition, for me Ukraine have already 'won'. No matter what happens they have fought for their country, embarrassed a 'super power' it shares a huge land border with, and they have shown themselves to be an incredible people. Yes a hollow victory if they end up losing the whole country or a substantial part of it, but a victory of sorts none the less.

Imagine the USA invading Mexico, and 4 x years later not having taken even a quarter of the country, and having to call in Brazil to send shells and troops. That's basically what has happened so far with this war.

You even talk seriously about Russian voting tendencies, as if those can possibly tell us anything the Russian people are truly thinking! Do you really think any Russian voting results tell us anything other than what Putin wants them to show? Do you understand how this country actually operates? These sort of comments just cause people to normally just skip even reading your posts. You cannot trust any results, or even any economical data from this country, as it is all scrutinised, sanitised or outright forged by the Putin regime. Even surveys taken by reputable outside agencies cannot be accurate as most Russian people are terrified or being exposed as someone anti-war or anti Putin and will not speak their truth when asked as they fear the consequences.

Do you have Russian friends or family? I do, and they tell me of shortages, price hikes, a sense of unease and paranoia across the country, and a huge feeling of shame (from both pro-war and anti war camps). They tell me of huge losses, that they cannot even mourn normally. Rural Russia in particular is suffering in ways you wouldn't believe.

What I find incredible, is the fact so little of the country has been taken by Russian after 4 years, how reduced Russia's standing is now in the world, just how much damage it has done to its own reputation, its economy, and its population, and how embarrassing its military performance has been. No possible news from the battle lines can really change this now. Wagner's rebellion, having to invite North Korean troops to fight for them, their Navy and Air force being decimated. Its all kinds of different defeats, irreversible defeats that will have ramifications for Russia for generations, and one that no matter how much land they manage to grab will have been worth the cost.

Back to ignore now, don't know why i bother but occasionally it is just satisfying to point out to you how ridiculous some of your comments are.
Excellently written. Thank you. I think so too. I read your post and my soul rejoiced that somewhere far away there are people who understand everything that is happening perfectly well.
This is amazing! The thing is that I have been observing the processes in Russia for a long time and have always wondered: "Does Europe really not see what Putin is preparing Russia for? After all, everything is being done openly." When Putin was killing hundreds of Chechens a day in the Caucasus, Europe watched silently. When Putin attacked Georgia, Europe continued to watch indifferently. Back in 2007 in Munich, Putin made threatening statements addressed to Europe itself. Europe simply ignored them. Only rare voices began to warn that things were heading for war. Putin started it, but not in 2022, but 22 years ago!
I lived in Russia for 20 years - from 1980 to 2000. I served in the Soviet Army for two years. Already in 1994, with the beginning of the Chechen war, I saw a threat to my country, Azerbaijan. When Putin came to power, I immediately came to the conclusion that Putin is war. On the third day, Putin voiced his famous threat: "Whoever offends Russia will not live three days." And who and how can offend Russia, a country that already had the largest nuclear forces in the world?! No one! And given Putin's statement that "the collapse of the USSR is a great geostrategic catastrophe," it becomes clear that Russia has already been offended, which means, according to Putin's own logic, the offender must be punished. Mr. Putin was offended even before coming to power. And not only by Russia's shameful defeat in the first Chechen war. After all, it was not the Chechens who destroyed the Soviet Union, dear to his soul, where he served as an officer in the punitive body - the KGB. He was "offended" by the West! According to Putin, the West destroyed the USSR. It was clear from the very beginning that Putin would take revenge! On whom? On the whole world! In Russia itself, hurray-patriots called Putin "The Avenger" 20 years ago!

It is unlikely that London has forgotten how fascist Russian youths, at the instigation of the Russian authorities, persecuted the British ambassador, literally terrorized him with constant persecution in Moscow. And it is unlikely that they will forget Russian strategic bombers with nuclear weapons on board, flying around the British Isles, not to mention the constant threats from the Russians to turn London into a nuclear ashes... Russia will not win this war with this army, which has become a laughing stock! By the way, even 45 years ago, when I served in it, it amazed me not with the huge number of tanks, but with the incredible amount of vodka drunk by Russians in a day. Even serving in this army, I simply despised it - this eternally drunken gathering of gangs. I, like you, believe that Ukraine has already won the war, even if it has lost the territories already occupied by Russia.
As for our colleague Lool, I admit that, with rare exceptions, all his posts leave me perplexed and upset. And this concerns not only this topic. In other topics, he publishes no less "masterpieces" :)
But, fortunately, I am a person with a sense of humor :) and I am not going to ignore anyone.
 

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