TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

TR_123456 said:

Yeah,i dont get the Druze part?
Why the hell would the join the PKK,for what reason or goal?

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Because these are minorities... Minorities usually behave this way; this is not a new anomaly in the political history of mankind. The least represented in a country shout the loudest. Furthermore, the Jews (Druze) are not exactly high on the popularity scale when it comes to choosing their allies. Therefore, they take the bloc that is closest to them.

See India -> Armenia -> Greece/Cyprus -> Israel. The Indians have zero cultural points in common with these countries, let alone any form of religion.
Nevertheless, they certainly do not join forces with them strategically out of love for their neighbour.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

GoatsMilk said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2011347470115094932

One thing i always personally noticed about the pkk leadership is how they looked like armenians. Does anyone have a deeper understanding about whether or not its true that much of the PKK leadership is crypto-armenians?

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Both Armenians and Kurds are Indo-Europeans.

How embarrassing, they must really have a deep-seated grudge. As if the whole of NATO revolves around Greece.....

17 wages a year, , 10s of billions of bailouts, asking Germany for compensations, demanding that no single business or military deal with Turkiye to be done, claiming the waters almost to Morocco, demanding that the swimmers in Cunda ask the permits from them to have a dip, taking part in Srebrenica massacre, giving the sanctuary to PKK and Armenian terrorist. All of it is demand from those creatures. Oh yes , on top it those pseudo Orthodox Priests have never ending " Papal conspiracy" convulsions.
Never ending psychotic outbursts from Balkan Christians.

IC3M@N FX said:

I am of Turkish-Kurdish origin and am familiar with the nuances. There are three Kurdish branches

Kurmanci -> Sunni Kurds, the vast majority of Kurds in the heartland, most of whom are related or related by marriage to Turks (the largest group) in the central south-east of Turkey, some of whom are also represented in Iraq. Predominantly hostile and opposed to the PKK/YPG.

Zaza -> Alevi or Christian Kurds, predominantly in Iraq, Syria, Iran and the extreme south-east of Turkey, e.g. in Dersim, Bingöl, partly also in Hatay and Malatya, Batman & Co. Ambivalent towards the PKK/YPG, difficult to classify. Many of them are also of Armenian Christian descent.

Sorani -> mainly in Iraq and western Iran, no roots in Turkey, mostly Shiites, but also some Sunnis, very distant towards the PKK/YPG.

I'm not saying that all of this data is 100% accurate, but it's definitely heading in that direction.

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You are saying basically most kurds in Türkiye are not supporting PKK. That's very optimistic. How do you explain then HDP (who is leaning its back to Kandil) getting around 6mio votes??

AlperTunga said:

You are saying basically most kurds in Türkiye are not supporting PKK. That's very optimistic. How do you explain then HDP (who is leaning its back to Kandil) getting around 6mio votes??

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An estimated 13 to 15 million Kurds live in Turkey, and if 6 million of them vote for the HDP, as you say, that can hardly be all of them.

To my knowledge, in 2023, around 4.8 million people nationwide voted for the HDP.

Regardless of how one assesses or classifies the HDP politically, whether as good or evil, terrorist or not, people vote for this party for different reasons. In the past, I have personally experienced that many parties in Turkey are allergic to the topic of south-eastern Turkey when it comes to investment, infrastructure, jobs, education, etc.
The AKP is the only party that has really invested there; the other parties have literally stood still no investment here.
Now put yourself in these people's shoes: why on earth would they vote for someone who rejects them in terms of their future prospects? Then you have the answer. Personally, I consider the HDP to be the political arm of the PKK; it should be banned, but the result remains the same.

People will continue not to vote for the CHP & Co, and why should they? That would be just as illogical as for example Turks in Germany with German Passports voting for the AfD, which in turn wants to expel Turks, Kurds or whoever else from Germany.
Make no sense

The trilateral alliance project is complete! Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia are nearing the end of their cooperation.

The push for an alliance that would combine Turkey's military might, Pakistan's nuclear potential, and Saudi Arabia's financial might has raised concerns in Greece, Israel, and India.
The planned defense alliance between Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia is beginning to take shape.

...It has been confirmed that a draft agreement has been prepared. Rumors of a trilateral alliance, touted by some anti-Turkish circles, such as Israel and Greece, as an "alternative to NATO," have received widespread coverage in the Western press. However, no official confirmation has been received from Ankara, Islamabad, or Riyadh.
...Pakistan Defense Minister Raza Hayat Hiraj also stated that negotiations between the three countries have been ongoing for a year and that a draft defense agreement has been prepared. In an interview with the Pakistani press, Hiraj emphasized that such an alliance is viewed as a precautionary measure in light of the events of the past two years.

Turkish media.


Some news reports and commentaries in the Israeli press have suggested that Türkiye's inclusion in the Saudi Arabia-Pakistan agreement would negatively impact the security dominance Israel aims to establish in the region.