TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Rooxbar]

Listen:

esp. interesting is 1:05:49 about the stupidity of our current admin in playing their hands so openly because of domestic politics.

 

[mehmed beg]

The country which has population of almost 120 millions and arable land size of Suisse can't have much of future. When I was a kid , Egypt hasd about 38 to 40 million. Geography in itself is tricky, even in unlikely case of conflict with Israel, it is narrow geography and open empty places, they see them coming. The source of Nile are far.
It is what they as population chose. Weather you have economy and technology or 15 children it is you choice.
The army is a behemoth, too many suppliers also. I guess that they produce few systems from the scratch and a loads of the spare parts but that isn't what really is needed .
It took Ukrainian pilots almost a year to qualify from su27 and Mig 29s to F16. Those pilots received training for free from top Western schools. Imagine all those various planes and systems???
I guess that has been the state policy.
As of Turkiye,all is ok . Some deals have been made and it is as far as it will go. At least good enough to cover some costs. What Egypt is going to do , it is their problem. I don't see them changing any equitation. Good luck and good bye.

 

[Tonyukuk]

The country which has population of almost 120 millions and arable land size of Suisse can't have much of future. When I was a kid , Egypt hasd about 38 to 40 million. Geography in itself is tricky, even in unlikely case of conflict with Israel, it is narrow geography and open empty places, they see them coming. The source of Nile are far.
It is what they as population chose. Weather you have economy and technology or 15 children it is you choice.
The army is a behemoth, too many suppliers also. I guess that they produce few systems from the scratch and a loads of the spare parts but that isn't what really is needed .
It took Ukrainian pilots almost a year to qualify from su27 and Mig 29s to F16. Those pilots received training for free from top Western schools. Imagine all those various planes and systems???
I guess that has been the state policy.
As of Turkiye,all is ok . Some deals have been made and it is as far as it will go. At least good enough to cover some costs. What Egypt is going to do , it is their problem. I don't see them changing any equitation. Good luck and good bye.

Egypt is not in a good place geographically. Control of the Suez seems great, but their geography is a curse. Not only because they rely on fresh water that is out of their control, but because their largest cities are on flat, exposed land.

With good training their military can become potent, but it will need 5 years to make a major stride forward.

 

[mehmed beg]

Egypt is not in a good place geographically. Control of the Suez seems great, but their geography is a curse. Not only because they rely on fresh water that is out of their control, but because their largest cities are on flat, exposed land.

With good training their military can become potent, but it will need 5 years to make a major stride forwarbud.

I wish them all the best, but for that someone needs to have money, clear and objective vision etc. I am afraid that they don't have that. Despite the numbers of Arabs and the resources, none of them are able to make even single air frame.
Take a look at Egyptian air defence systems? Plentiful, of course from the various countries. On paper, it should be much better than the Turkish ones but that's not the case.
In the last 12 13 years, Turkey fired 100s of missiles for the sake of development. Missiles,radars, communications, combat management systems, production, tooling etc. even VSL Turkey tested air defence again Kizilelma, Anka 3 and to extent KAAN . Let alone all the experience in signal collecting SOJ project, unified command. In all of that, foreign nations have no insight. Add incoming satellites and Fergani GPS and it is holistic system. It might not be the best in the world but Turkish Air defence command knows inside out the system that they got with the huge experience of testing.
Weather Egypt or Saudi want to go with that in some way it would be more beneficial to them than for Turkiye. If not , there you go , good luck good bye and no hard feelings. After all, as we Bosnians say " What you don't have you can without". Programs must be finished and I am confident insha'Allah that all of it will be resolved sooner or later