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Would Indonesia operate both KF-21 and KAAN? I could see some logic in getting a 5G aircraft to operate until KAAN could be delivered with TF35000 perhaps in the late 2030's but KF-21 is not 5G. With 4G Rafale on board, what is the interest in KF-21 - particularly since it uses US engines?
we can use IFX as tactical air strike capability, patrol aircraft, we need to replace our F 16, hawk 200. rafale for special air mission like SEAD, maritime strike..KAAN for air superiority, using US engines not a problems..since the beginning US materials are not a problem, but for IFX case and KAAN, our objective is to obtain know how building a fighter as a whole complete project.
 
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Neo VVIP planes

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The KF-21 budget is ready from the MoF so its now up to the Indonesian Defence Ministry.

"When asked about the purchase of the KF-21 and Su-35, Purbaya: Ask the Defense Minister, I'm only handling the payments.

He also stated that the budget procurement for that project has been in place for quite some time, so he believes there shouldn't be any issues."

 
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The KF-21 budget is ready from the MoF so its now up to the Indonesian Defence Ministry.

"When asked about the purchase of the KF-21 and Su-35, Purbaya: Ask the Defense Minister, I'm only handling the payments.

He also stated that the budget procurement for that project has been in place for quite some time, so he believes there shouldn't be any issues."

If Indonesia still pursue Russian fighter why not getting SU-57 instead of SU-35.
 

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If Indonesia still pursue Russian fighter why not getting SU-57 instead of SU-35.
Don't know why though. Using the same logic if Indonesia wants to pursue Chinese fighter why not getting the J-35 instead of J-10C or JF-17.
 
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I think it's better for Indonesia to get Felon than J35. Too risky to get strategic weapons from regional opponents
 

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I think it's better for Indonesia to get Felon than J35. Too risky to get strategic weapons from regional opponents
So Indonesia see China as regional opponents?:oops:
There are many trade between these two country, I never consider about that.
 

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So Indonesia see China as regional opponents?:oops:
There are many trade between these two country, I never consider about that.
what do you expect, when china aggresively built military base in SCS, and claim SCS is cina belonging, its happen to pinoy, malay, and vietnam, why indonesian should not consider it will happen to indonesia to..
 

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So Indonesia see China as regional opponents?:oops:
There are many trade between these two country, I never consider about that.
Indonesia do not wish to have enemy, and prefer to make friends.
Prabowo also once mentioned it in international forum in Russia, in front of Putin :" thousand friend is too few and one enemy is too many and we want to be friend with everybody."

Trade and investment between ID and CN is big, and CN is among the main trade and investment partner for Indonesia.

Why ID suspicious/careful attitude towards CN despite the good economic cooperation?

1. CN hostile and provocative actions in the north natuna sea, conducted by their fishing boat militia, coast guard and navy.

2. Hacking and information theft towards Indonesian govt.

3. CN actively spying on indonesian waters conducted by CN "research ship" and UUV. Years ago several CN UUV found in ID waters. And just few months ago another CN UUV found. These few UUV were accidentally found by luck, imagine those that is currently still operating secretly in ID water, sunk to ocean floor, retrieved or left ID water must be in huge numbers.

4. CN agrresive, militaristic, expansionist behavior is a concern not only for ID but also the region.

Its not that ID want to become CN opponent but CN behavior is not something that a friend will do.

Overal, on economic cooperation its good but on security and defense CN still can't be trusted. Thus its okay to pursue deeper cooperation on economic front but for security and defense (buying fighter jet, warship, submarine)? Better not.

Hopefully in the future CN and ID can reach an understanding and trust on defrnse and security issue and work together to create a safer region and world, also focus to develop and grow together.
 

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