TR Politics

It is funny to see that Turkish nationalists and Kurdish nationalists unite in their stance against the ongoing process.

My twitter is full of both sides claiming that this is a shameful defeat and they don't accept it. None of them provide any logical argument or a realistic solution. Just parroting empty slogans after slogans.

Corvus said:

It is funny to see that Turkish nationalists and Kurdish nationalists unite in their stance against the ongoing process.

My twitter is full of both sides claiming that this is a shameful defeat and they don't accept it. None of them provide any logical argument or a realistic solution. Just parroting empty slogans after slogans.

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Slogans according to this pkk and immigrsnt lover = "we shouldnt make peace when the armed wing was being pushed deep inside Iraq, we shouldn't make peace with terrorists who literally took over cities and took a toll on us, we shouldn't make peace with terrorists whom literally blew our soldiers heads mag dumping (gerilatv), we shouldnt make peace and gave them more freedom because they are more likely to commit crimes (selling drugs, stabbing people, terrorism), We shouldn't make peace with them because If it fails our economy will pay for it dearly.

Average sunniye citizen like you can't understand these arguments lad, go vote for green party in italy or something

These individuals seem to think that—after the state covered up the killing of a soldier by the PKK by claiming a drone had struck him just to keep the peace process from derailing, and then released PKK members into society—they can simply call the police when mafia-style racketeering and random shootings begin, expecting the police to protect them and the media to listen to what they have to say.

The same exact people who openly supported FETÖ, and probably also supported prior "peace" processes are once again doing what they do best

They'll convince you that this is some strategic move that will boost Türkiye's power, meanwhile people live in squalor and terrorists freely parade in the streets. There wasn't even a proper response to the terror attack at TUSAŞ. Just a few artillery rounds launched into Syria and Iraq.

Türkiye is going through a massive humiliation ritual, our Islamists are no different than western liberals.

Corvus said:

It is funny to see that Turkish nationalists and Kurdish nationalists unite in their stance against the ongoing process.

My twitter is full of both sides claiming that this is a shameful defeat and they don't accept it. None of them provide any logical argument or a realistic solution. Just parroting empty slogans after slogans.

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Yeah, not wanting to have PKK Zionist terrorist wandering our streets is not a good enough logical argument for you huh?

Seriously, are all you Islamist this ridiculous?

Mis_TR_Like said:

The same exact people who openly supported FETÖ, and probably also supported prior "peace" processes are once again doing what they do best

They'll convince you that this is some strategic move that will boost Türkiye's power, meanwhile people live in squalor and terrorists freely parade in the streets. There wasn't even a proper response to the terror attack at TUSAŞ. Just a few artillery rounds launched into Syria and Iraq.

Türkiye is going through a massive humiliation ritual, our Islamists are no different than western liberals.

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Yeah absolutely. It reminds me FETÖ -AKP flirt.

Another thing is the slogan: "Terörsüz Türkiye " Turkey without terror .


But the government always claim terror was finished by strong power.

Now I want to know terror is finished or not finished?

Why do we need Terörsüz Türkiye, if the government already defeated terrorism.

I log into Instagram and look what I see! Advertising land to Arabs. AKP is hell-bent on turning İstanbul into a multi-national multicultural paradise(!)

Come get your land today, citizenship included!

Tonyukuk said:

turning İstanbul into a multi-national multicultural paradise(!)

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Istanbul was, is, and always will be a multinational, multicultural paradise, just like all the other great imperial cities of the world. Those who can't adapt can go back to their monolithic villages.

Tonyukuk said:

I log into Instagram and look what I see! Advertising land to Arabs. AKP is hell-bent on turning İstanbul into a multi-national multicultural paradise(!)

Come get your land today, citizenship included!
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I have seen those ads for citizenship, digusting this is the future of sunniye

What do you guys think about Kurdish nationalists' being against the ongoing "terror-free Türkiye" process? They claim this is a surrender for the Kurdish cause and that Öcalan is an MIT asset.

I find it unlikely that Öcalan is an MIT asset but it certainly is a defeat for Kurdish nationalism.

I'm curious about your opinion as well.

Ending will be this but in istanbul or ankara

Corvus said:

Istanbul was, is, and always will be a multinational, multicultural paradise, just like all the other great imperial cities of the world. Those who can't adapt can go back to their monolithic villages.

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Here is the situation for Turks during multicultural Ottoman era;

"When you heard the word “Turk,” what came to mind was a village that smelled of manure. After all, it meant “crude” and “wild.” An Arab was called an Arab, an Albanian an Albanian, a Greek a Greek, a Kurd a Kurd, and a Turk an Ottoman. The word “homeland” was already forbidden among the Islamic ummah and in the Ottoman Empire. There was no such sacred concept. We were subjects of the Sultan. The oath was renewed at every opportunity. They would shout, “Long live the Sultan!” Among them, there was as much admiration for foreigners as there was shame in being Turkish. After all, the chasm between them was much more evident to them. While the Greek neighborhoods glowed brightly at night, the Turkish neighborhoods—with their wooden structures, dampness, and filth—were plunged into darkness. Turks would gaze at these neighborhoods with envy even from childhood. The Greeks dressed well and lived well. The Turkish neighborhoods lived in fear of a handful of thugs. These thugs, who extorted money from shopkeepers, were kept in the mansions of certain wealthy families. Since police officers and commissioners received such meager salaries, they, too, had turned into bribe-takers and informants. Since those who left early for work sometimes set out without money to avoid being robbed, at one point the thieves announced that they would stab anyone found without at least 20 kuruş on them, and they posted this notice on the walls. Türk’s options were limited: porters or soldiers; becoming a househusband was a distant dream.

So extreme was this distorted Westernization that, for most male figures, having a foreign mistress was an absolute must—by all means! A foreign language, especially French, was spoken, and one had to prove one’s proficiency in every possible way. One had to somehow make one’s way to Beyoğlu. Most of the shops there wouldn’t even deign to respond to anyone who didn’t speak Turkish. Some of the side streets were named in French, and all the street signs were written in French. The signs on shops and stores were in French. However, beneath some of them, the Turkish names were written in small letters, almost as if it were a favor. On the railroads and trams, the senior officials were foreigners, while the junior ones were Greek or Armenian; and on the other railroads of Rumelia, not a single Turk could be found serving as stationmaster, supervisor, or conductor—such positions were never entrusted to them. The non-Turkish officials, meanwhile, spared no form of harassment or insult toward Turkish passengers. Of course, the official language on the railroads was French as well. When the train departed, the conductors would shout “conspirator” or “fanatic.” Consequently, speaking French and demonstrating that one was not Turkish was extremely important for social status. As you can see, Hamid’s power and authority extended only to the poor Turks in Istanbul. Those who were Turkish but not part of this Western-leaning crowd had to seek refuge in places like pera palas to escape Abdulhamid.
After all, neither the Ottoman police nor the secret agents could enter the Pera Palas or the Anatolian Railway Administration building. In fact, if you were a Greek national, you enjoyed immunity even in a Greek tavern. The police and judicial systems for foreigners were handled by the consulates. After all, it was impossible for any Turkish person with even a shred of common sense not to go mad under these conditions. Indeed, they were treated as madmen and mocked as “Turkists.” To be a “Turkist” meant to destroy the state. It was madness. Utopian!" -Falih Rıfkı Atay

Turks lived under poverty while rums,kurds and armenians flourished this is the multicultural hell you are dreaming of!

This framework law is aimed at granting a blanket amnesty to PKK/KCK terrorist members, without even requiring them to express any remorse.

PKK leaders are making no declaration of remorse whatsoever!

The PKK’s political affiliates are stating that they will not accept a law requiring expressions of remorse.

This is not a defeat for the armed Kurdish movement; it is a victory.


On the other hand, the parliament is about to change constitution including first four .


Türkiye without terror



İYİ Party leader Dervişoğlu said, “Our objection is that the reputation of our Parliament, which has already been undermined under the one-man rule, is being deliberately destroyed.”


Dervişoğlu stated that the organization’s branches in Syria and Iran had not laid down their arms and continued:


“The PKK is not laying down its arms; it is changing its methods. For the sake of votes, constitutional amendments, and a lifetime presidency, this dirty game is being marketed to our nation as a ‘Terror-Free Türkiye.’”

Embarrassing

Erdogan is now arresting many central figures of the Süleymancılar Cemaati

According to some rumors: central figures of Süleymancılar were planning to relocate their activities into the new headquarters being built in Germany. It is stated that they were planning to relocate within weeks and continue their activities from there

Translation:
A detention order has been issued for 49 suspects, including Alihan Kuriş, the leader of the group known as the Süleymancılar Cemaati.
• As part of the investigation by the Ankara Chief Public Prosecutor's Office, simultaneous operations were conducted at 123 addresses across 17 provinces, with the suspects being investigated for charges such as corruption, money laundering, and commercial irregularities.
• In MASAK analyses, it was determined that over 100 billion liras in funds were transferred abroad through linked individuals and companies, and protective measures—including seizures of certain companies and assets—were implemented.
• The investigation is reported to target not the religious activities of the Süleymancılar Cemaati, but an alleged criminal organization focused on hierarchical and economic gain.

Lool said:

Erdogan is now arresting many central figures of the Süleymancılar Cemaati

According to some rumors: central figures of Süleymancılar were planning to relocate their activities into the new headquarters being built in Germany. It is stated that they were planning to relocate within weeks and continue their activities from there

Translation:
A detention order has been issued for 49 suspects, including Alihan Kuriş, the leader of the group known as the Süleymancılar Cemaati.
• As part of the investigation by the Ankara Chief Public Prosecutor's Office, simultaneous operations were conducted at 123 addresses across 17 provinces, with the suspects being investigated for charges such as corruption, money laundering, and commercial irregularities.
• In MASAK analyses, it was determined that over 100 billion liras in funds were transferred abroad through linked individuals and companies, and protective measures—including seizures of certain companies and assets—were implemented.
• The investigation is reported to target not the religious activities of the Süleymancılar Cemaati, but an alleged criminal organization focused on hierarchical and economic gain.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2087794320862572870

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Are you Albanian or Turkish?

Tonyukuk said:

Embarrassing

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That guy burned 12 people including a baby and now going around talking about peace.

Tonyukuk said:

Oh my fcking god they're literally in full PKK attire. No suprise, you literally told us you're a Kurd a long time ago, of course you've been secretly supporting PKK this whole time

Even look at the comments, everyone is disgusted by it. Yet you're here on a Turkish defence forum DEFENDING PKK.

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Me and being Kurdish?
You have no idea what you're talking about.
My father's grandfather fought in the Çanakkale Campaign and sank a submarine. He fought for 4 years in Çanakkale and 8 years against the Armenians.
Sergeant Kadir was Kazım Karabekir's aide-de-camp.
His brother fought in Yemen and walked for years to return to his homeland.
Two of my grandmother's uncles were martyred in Çanakkale. There are countless World War I martyrs and veterans in my family.
Therefore, you don't have the character to tarnish my patriotism. You and your friends should keep your nonsensical words to yourselves.

Erdem Atay began his journalism career at Aydınlık magazine, and continued working there after Aydınlık became a daily newspaper. He held positions as News Editor and Ankara News Editor, and subsequently served as Ankara News Editor at Ulusal Kanal for approximately five years.

Journalist Erdem Atay makes significant allegations:

“During İmamoğlu and Yavaş's terms, approximately 2000 people were hired by the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality (İBB) and the Ankara Metropolitan Municipality (ABB).

The Süleymancılar group provided İmamoğlu with a list, and over 2000 people were hired by the İBB.

Similarly, around 2000 Süleymancılar were hired by the Ankara Metropolitan Municipality.

Furthermore, the Süleymancılar are issuing receipts to the Ankara Water and Sewerage Administration, claiming they will build mosques and madrasas for themselves.

These people don't even slaughter sacrificial animals; they take the money intended for the sacrifices, saying, 'Let's not give them the meat, let's use it as cash.'"

This isn't being said by what you call an "AKP-aligned journalist" or Melih Gökçek. This is being said by a pure leftist. Now you know how disgusting the cesspool you're so eager to infest stinks of. But you're going to ignore that, aren't you?