Not the same.
They're not secular at all. All are legit Arab Nationalist.
Its simple. Because they're conquered people of Russia and China. They have no sense of pride. and are complete cowards. I don't need to pretend they're anything but cowards like you do with Arabs -- see the difference?
Lets say Oghuz Anatolian Turks are a different breed then?
And thats good. But lets be real, if they had a choice, I bet they would've preferred to do nothing. And it was against Armenia.
Because the alternative is worst that's all. And we're all suffering for it,.
When they want to defend PKK and non-Turks against Turks.. yes, I will despise them.
Same islamists were cheering on twitter that azeris were shia so thereafter they were quffar, Islamists would sell out their family members for a minority If that minority starts believing to Arabic religion lol
Israelis also helped a ton to thr Azerbaijani intelligence and the army so what?
OTS was proposed by Nazarbayev.
I remember them calling Azerbaijanis as fake Turks. This is their little tactic to try divide Turks.
THEY MIGHT HAVE NUKES WE HAVE ALLAH!!
Naftali Bennett, the other Israeli officials and the whole Epstein Regime disagree with you. They hate religious Arabs and prefer seculars.
Yeah, I agree. But why don't you guys show the same understanding when it comes to the Arabs? Do you expect weak Arab countries to oppose America?
Thanks to our "islamist" leaders. Özal started, Erdoğan continues.
They will be slapped in the right time and in the right form. Direct military engagement doesn't serve us until we have air superiority. We basically don't have much options against F35s and ballistic missiles.
Özal is the reason we got kürt problemi what a great leader
Don't say that around adults who remember before Özal. They will laugh at you.Özal is the reason we got kürt problemi what a great leader
Does it change the truth? He was a shit president who let shit ton of kurds into the Turkish soil and made their numbers even greater, he was a bum.
4 of those are stuck in Hormuz, and I could assume that Bayraktaroglu participated because of our troops in Qatar.Some meetings conducted today by Chief of General Staff Selçuk Bayraktaroğlu
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It truly pains me to say this but I guess that if Erdogan is truly smart or at the very least has smart advisors around him, then he should swallow that shame and continue as if nothing happened
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It truly pains me to say this but I guess that if Erdogan is truly smart or at the very least has smart advisors around him, then he should swallow that shame and continue as if nothing happened
At first, I thought that Turkey should respond firmly and set red lines but after reading @GoatsMilk post, I started having speculations that maybe Israel did want Turkey to respond in order to create a new war in the region
This speculation slowly turned to certainity after particular 3 events:
1-The Israeli narrative for why they targerted that base has changed about 4 times in less than 24 hours; whenever someone find inconsistency in their initial narrative, they change it as if this wasnt the actual reason
2- An article recently posted in the Middle East Eye that quoted anonymous Syrian officials stating that Turkey has no need to operate that base since they already have an airbase, housing turkish jets, close to Idlib and around 40 km away from the bombed base; they also mentioned that Turkey is renovating multiple bases aside from the one currently bombed and that if Israel's issue was expanding Turkish influence then they would have bombed all the bases and not only this one
'Playing with fire': Israel's Syria strike tests Turkey after Mecca defence pact
Ankara insiders see the attack as an attempt to undermine the defence pact and send a warning ahead of Erdogan’s planned Damascus visit
3- In a recent speech by Indian PM Narendra Modi, during one of his rallies, he stated that he warned Israeli PM that Turkey, SA, and Pakistan wants to create an alliance beforehand to which Natenyahu's response was: We will initiate multiple wars in the Gulf against Iran that drains their resources and makes them incapable of forming such alliances; which obviously spectacularly failed!
Thus, I think that @GoatsMilk analysis of the current situation is spot on and that the recent Israeli attack was meant as a trap for Turkey in which Israel, if Turkey responds, would gradually escalate until a new war is reached (just like with Iran and Lebanon) and will rally the white goyim to fight both Turkey and Syria instead of Israel while the jew uses that opportunity to expand more into Syria and enforce a different reality on ground (that it couldnt force the US to do it in Israel's place) in which Syria remains fragmented and the newly propsed Mecca alliance remains geographically separated as well as isolated to have any real deterrence value.
Moroever, I think the reason Natenyahu is taking such a radical approach is that Syria will quickly recover, even if Israel bombed a couple of bases. All what Syria lacks rn is a proper airforce and AD systems which the US, EU, Russia, and China refused to provide in order to not antagonise Israel; therefore, as @GoatsMilk milk stated, Turkey should swallow its pride for now until its domestic AD and Jets are in full production and then have Syria gradually starting liberating its territory, in the medium term, which is what Israel truly fears since a couple of years from now, Israel may be alone in fighting their first official proper war in which the jew wont fight paramilitaries but proper armies which may spell into Israel's defeat since if the recent wars that Israel fought are anything to go by, they arent as strong as they proclaim to be; i-e, they fight weaker nations and proudly boast as if they defeated one the strongest nations on earth in a direct confrontation
The post number Iam refering to is #7,617 for those who are interested to read it
Military Operations Syria
Turkiye sustained 13 years of transgressions during the civil war in syria by Russia, the USA and EU. We can sustain another 10 years of isrealis bombing a few positions that in the grand scheme of things will change nothing concerning where Syria is going. Turks need time, Isrealis are in a...
It truly pains me to say this but I guess that if Erdogan is truly smart or at the very least has smart advisors around him, then he should swallow that shame and continue as if nothing happened
At first, I thought that Turkey should respond firmly and set red lines but after reading @GoatsMilk post, I started having speculations that maybe Israel did want Turkey to respond in order to create a new war in the region
This speculation slowly turned to certainity after particular 3 events:
1-The Israeli narrative for why they targerted that base has changed about 4 times in less than 24 hours; whenever someone find inconsistency in their initial narrative, they change it as if this wasnt the actual reason
2- An article recently posted in the Middle East Eye that quoted anonymous Syrian officials stating that Turkey has no need to operate that base since they already have an airbase, housing turkish jets, close to Idlib and around 40 km away from the bombed base; they also mentioned that Turkey is renovating multiple bases aside from the one currently bombed and that if Israel's issue was expanding Turkish influence then they would have bombed all the bases and not only this one
'Playing with fire': Israel's Syria strike tests Turkey after Mecca defence pact
Ankara insiders see the attack as an attempt to undermine the defence pact and send a warning ahead of Erdogan’s planned Damascus visit
3- In a recent speech by Indian PM Narendra Modi, during one of his rallies, he stated that he warned Israeli PM that Turkey, SA, and Pakistan wants to create an alliance beforehand to which Natenyahu's response was: We will initiate multiple wars in the Gulf against Iran that drains their resources and makes them incapable of forming such alliances; which obviously spectacularly failed!
Thus, I think that @GoatsMilk analysis of the current situation is spot on and that the recent Israeli attack was meant as a trap for Turkey in which Israel, if Turkey responds, would gradually escalate until a new war is reached (just like with Iran and Lebanon) and will rally the white goyim to fight both Turkey and Syria instead of Israel while the jew uses that opportunity to expand more into Syria and enforce a different reality on ground (that it couldnt force the US to do it in Israel's place) in which Syria remains fragmented and the newly propsed Mecca alliance remains geographically separated as well as isolated to have any real deterrence value.
Moroever, I think the reason Natenyahu is taking such a radical approach is that Syria will quickly recover, even if Israel bombed a couple of bases. All what Syria lacks rn is a proper airforce and AD systems which the US, EU, Russia, and China refused to provide in order to not antagonise Israel; therefore, as @GoatsMilk milk stated, Turkey should swallow its pride for now until its domestic AD and Jets are in full production and then have Syria gradually starting liberating its territory, in the medium term, which is what Israel truly fears since a couple of years from now, Israel may be alone in fighting their first official proper war in which the jew wont fight paramilitaries but proper armies which may spell into Israel's defeat since if the recent wars that Israel fought are anything to go by, they arent as strong as they proclaim to be; i-e, they fight weaker nations and proudly boast as if they defeated one the strongest nations on earth in a direct confrontation
The post number Iam refering to is #7,617 for those who are interested to read it
Military Operations Syria
Turkiye sustained 13 years of transgressions during the civil war in syria by Russia, the USA and EU. We can sustain another 10 years of isrealis bombing a few positions that in the grand scheme of things will change nothing concerning where Syria is going. Turks need time, Isrealis are in a...
Israel mended ties with Turkey way back when it was still weak; now that Turkey has strength, it is an enemy. I also want to remind you that Israel was the prime supporter of the terror organisation, the PKK, way before relations soured with Turkey. In other words, the Israelis never viewed the Turks as allies in the first place but nothing more than a stopgap, even when their relations were at its peak. I guess, in Israel's eyes, a goyim will always be a goyim
I have removed the video
