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Whatever you want to say. I'm not interested into getting that sort of discussion since it isn't really what this thread is meant for nor do I think it will end up with anything fruitful. My post was purely a reply to what you were saying, "what Korea is doing is meaningless". Like I've showed...

Yup. I think Indian members can give more insight to the problem, but to my understanding the program management by the responsible entities within the Indian government, MoD and their procurement agencies are not working that well. The main contractor and system integrator for all future...

I'm not sure if privatizing HAL would've won the contract. If you dive a bit deeper into the Indian aerospace sector, you might understand where this is coming from. Currently HAL is like this giant elephant in the room who manufactures everything from some of the most trivial parts that goes...

Ohhh, now I get it. Thanks for the explanation.

You're just casually disregarding sea-based BMD and ground strike of TST with SLBM, let alone ASW hunter-killer capability of a submarine against North Korean SSB that is just around the corner. There's a reason Korea went for a big 3000+ tons class SSK. They are both integral parts of Korean...

The biggest difference between Korean and Turkish naval buildup was the fact that Korea didn't comission second-hand ships once we started building our own ships in FF and PCC, and also that we didn't license surface combatant designs but sticked with our own. More importantly, once the lines...

@Afif sorry your post doesn't really help in answering my question.

Wait wait wait. Are you telling me that this mothership-KSR thing is not some concept or offer but an actual TNI program? My god... Basically. Though we should consider one thing. As we all know, effective utilization of FAC/missile boats needs external C4ISR and sensor-shooter network. What...

That's a great diagram. Thank you. Also, yes, I'd also agree that if Mk.1 upgrade to a common configuration happens, it would probably be during MLU. Though at that point of time they might as well be interested in developing something like a "Mk.1B" which both 1 and 1A aircraft could be...

That's true. US certainly has some appeasement to do considering the 20th century relations the US and India had especially concerning Pakistan matters in the past... I guess it's recognisable that they need to yield something significant if they want cooperation regarding the seas near Andaman...

So it's more like the confirmed plan for 4 TF2000 is a direct replacement of the 4 G-Class that are less modernized and will likely retire earlier. I've thought that TF-2000 was a completely independent, new project not intended to replace any existing Turkish Navy ship, since the size and...

Wait, F-15EX still uses CSD? I've thought it would be using VSCF scheme by now. I guess its one of those legacy design carry-overs

Wait, how's 20 billion TRY 2 billion USD? XE.com says that's more like 785 million USD as 1 USD = 26 TRY. Am I getting this wrong? Also you said that total sum of the two contracts is 1.2 billion USD. What's with all the differences between those numbers? Anyways, if we go by the 20 billion...

I think this 20 billion dollar figure is not that meaningful just yet because we don't know the details. CRS reports could only cite public information and we still don't have anything like an official DSCA document listing which exact equipments are going to be sold to Turkiye. I think there's...

Yeah, more or less. To give you a bit more context, Turkiye modernized it's F-16 through PO III program. The original plan was to upgrade all block 30 aircraft into CCIP "lite" configuration and all block 40 and 50 aircraft into CCIP+ configuration, but later the plan was altered and only around...

Are there any plans regarding how the G-Class will be replaced? I've thought that Istif was gonna be her replacement but that doesn't seems to be the case reading from what you guys wrote. I think there surely is a need for additional Istanbul class in the future. Barbaros class wouldn't be...

Oh boy she's a looker for sure.

Considering KSR's size, this thing really needs a mothership to work in terms of endurance and targe acquisition. So the mothership in my view is more like an organic part of the system. But this makes me wonder if Indonesia really needs such mothership vessel that can deploy smaller missile...

Oh there are some options out there already. If you want something low-end, you could go for either ACV phase 1 vehicles or the Turkish FNSS Zaha. Korea also have been producing KAAV-7A1 until very recently, though I'm not sure if its still in production. If you want something more fancy you'll...

So this means 170+ LCA if this get's approved? Considering that original LCA requirements called fo a 1 to 1 replacement of Bisons, I guess it came back to where it was supposed to be. I might want to ask though, what was the projected IAF demand for LCA during the 1980s? Also, may I ask if the...