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    TR Propulsion Systems

    And will continue to be. Like I've said, no one stands still.
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    Korea KF-X/ IF-X (KF-21) program

    Twin engine was what the ROKAF really pushed for. If the end-user sees the point of going that way, I see no reason why not to. Also a single engine KF-X was supposed to use F110-GE-132 which is used by, you've guessed it, by and only by UAE. It's only logical twin F414 is a better choice.
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    TR Propulsion Systems

    You should not forget Avio Aero(formerly Fiat) and GKN Aerospace Engines (formerly Volvo Aero). Avio Aero has for long been a leading manufacturer of gas turbine gear boxes whereas Volvo in casing and liners. Also apart from IHI, JAEC member companies, esepcially MHI is heavily involved in gas...
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    Korea KF-X/ IF-X (KF-21) program

    The thing is, those other 5th gen fighters are not primarily meant for DCA purposes but are either air dominance fighters or OCA deep strike capable. In that sense, I don't think a face to face comparison shows the entire picture. Your point about AMCA makes more sense though and yeah, it's...
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    Korea KF-X/ IF-X (KF-21) program

    I think moving the conversation to this thread makes sense as we both agree that it doesn't belong in the MMU thread. No, you were not wrong with your assumptions, as in I was also talking about 5th generation iteration of the KF-21. The biggest differences in our opinion lies on "if the fuel...
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    India AMCA Program

    Should not forget the requirements to load 2 Mk. 84/GBU-31s internally. Add to that, during the MCA period and its following years, it would have only made sense that the MCA are to be powered by Kaveris. I don't think that much would have changed after the restructuring of the program to AMCA...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I see, so the specific details of the problems are not disclosed. Interesting answer regarding the 3rd question. Thank you.
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    So is it more of your typical "current gov hates previous gov and their projects" problem? Like I've wrote on the other thread, the general understanding amongst Koreans was that the problems were more to do with political rivalry between Jokowi and Prabowo. Reading from your posts, that seems...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Obviously I'm basing that on missions currently envisioned for KF-21s. What a future fighter, be it a block 3 or KF-XX, would fulfill is still an unknown for us and we could only speculate. And as a purely DCA fighter just like KF-16s, once more, that fuel capacity isn't the biggest deal...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Like I've wrote on the previous page, the purpose of the 5th prototype, which Indonesia is supposed to receive, is to support the development of IF-X configuration. PTDI engineers will do the job with help from KAI. Now, what exactly that is, is unknown for me. Maybe one of you guys can inform...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    From what I recall, undisclosed DAPA official has informed that further negotiations are going well after last year's deal, though the credibility of such claim is still to be questioned. I'd say, right now medias are stirring too much shit up. There are only two things on the table: payment is...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Fuel capacity is not the biggest problem here since unlike the F-35, KF-21's design philosophy and main role in service are DCA and deep strike using stand off weapons. 12,000 lbs could still do the job for those mission profiles. There are bigger problems on the avionics side, especially in...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Wing edges and intake are treated with RAS and the wing surfaces with RAM. Yes, apart from the intake area there is no RAM on fuselage but that doesn't mean "no RAM"
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Replying here since this thread is more suited for the topic. Indonesia will supply few composite parts afaik, of which there is the wing. Also, TNI-AU batches will be assembled in PTDI iirc. More importantly, KF-21 for ROKAF and IF-X are of different configurations, albeit very similar(almost...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Block 2 is mainly software upgrades for air to surface missions and to integration of additional armaments (also mostly air to surface) So called full-fledged 5th gen KF-21 is (also so-called) block 3. Says who?
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Actual F-X fighter jet will be powered by 2 F119-class engines, albeit smaller and lighter. It is your average heavyweight fighter, not much smaller than the MMU, capable of carrying 8 AAM missiles internally.
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Btw I've forgot to introduce myself, hello. I've been quite interested in the matter surrounding the Indonesian submarine program and KF-X/IF-X for quite a while. Since there seems to be so many mis- and even disinformation surrounding these matters, it would be quite helpful if I could get...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Considering how the Japanese dealt with the Australian submarine bid, I'm not so sure if the Indonesian side would be that appeased. Though since the Indonesians are already in talks with them regarding 30FFM and seems quite impressed, maybe they indeed have changed their attitude a bit after...

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