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The next big disclosure should come from space launch, damn it.

TCG Anadolu, TCG Trakya and 3 aircraft carriers. I don't agree to STOBAR, we can develop a modern UCAV focused CATOBAR in a reasonable timeframe and cost and make 3 of them.

We probably need planes for 5 ships. 12x5x1.3 = 78 + exports = 100+ for each navalized plane type in peace time and more if we enter a war.

We need jobs for our engineers, we can't afford to buy foreign products anymore. We need to busy ourselves trying to find good names for planes and all as the audience.

Considering we want to use a domestic engine to be developed locally it would cut on development costs that is.

We probably have gotten past 83% self reliance in overall defense industry as of now.

Engine commonality is critical, if we can fit the same engine to both cargo and passenger planes it will make the cost affordable.

We need a twin TF10k powered Hürjet/D LCA for the Turkish aircraft carrier. A second iteration of it can be stealth as well.

Erdoğan can be vice president.

You seemed to have caught something that I missed but apparently you didn't.

That's probably because the engine is not giving enough power to what kızılelma evolved into. So we have no clue why no more flights?

You should not compare a first engine make of a company to its second make, it would take half the time. Also the fact that Kızılelma is uncrewed makes it acceptable to power it with an unproven engine. I would say it should take 2-3 new builds before TEI is confident that the engine will fly...

I am guessing we may see TF6 on Kızılelma in less than 18 months.

Kızılelma has been flying the longest and is probably the longest along towards maturing. Considering Turkish makers' risk averse approach it should be Kızılelma taking the risk of an accident from flying with an unproven engine but also moving in development first.

We don't know that and Baykar must have already stocked a number of engines.

I congratulate the makers of the engine too, good job, keep up the good work.

Still no words from Baykar, like they are not involved, LOL. Baykar will be using Ukrainian engines for the foreseable future until they move on to some other engine. Not to be mistaken though I do want Baykar to use the TF6 but I will take their word over others'.

Who is anyone to say anything about what a private company will do other than their sole owners. Baykar never said they will use the TF6000. It takes 5 years to make an engine but it already took several of those years.

Also first official statement that Kızılelma will use the TF6000 made by the SSB Chief Prof Dr. Haluk Görgün.

Happy engine start day! "Start your engines"